AMBER ALERT CT - Vanessa Morales, 1, missing after mother found deceased, Ansonia, 28 Nov 2019

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  1. Alkali13

    Alkali13 Wannabe Criminalist

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  2. Steelslady

    Steelslady Justice for Kelsey

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    Was it the baby's clothing? I can't imagine a suspect being stupid enough to drop off his/her clothes in a donation bin for children.
     
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    Steelslady Justice for Kelsey

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    I wonder if they are cadaver dogs and they want to see if any hits are found of the baby. Or maybe they have clothing of hers with blood and they're searching in the home somewhere or in the yard?
     
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    Steelslady Justice for Kelsey

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    Rest in peace, beautiful lady. May your daughter be found soon.
     
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    Steph8angels Eye in the Sky

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    I could see (them) or (one) being CRAZY MANIAC STUPID CMS
    NO SOUL
    JMO
     
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    6 minute drive, mapped out here.
     

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  7. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    I imagine it was his clothing. This may have not been a planned, and he panicked after the fact.

    Don’t get me wrong, it’s completely idiotic. But he may have been in a hurry to dispose of those items, and that was the first container he encountered.
     
  8. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    My guess is that not only was that clothing within a short distance of the crime scene, but it was at the crime scene.

    He probably took it from the house.
     
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    I think you’re misinterpreting what I mean. Say you knew the person you did it. And that person is no longer able to car for Vanessa (because they’re being watched by police, in jail, etc). They ask you to take the baby, but you don’t want to be involved at all (or don’t want to get a friend/family member in trouble). You may start a campaign like the red light one.


    I’m by no means saying that’s what happened and it could very well just be a well meaning community member. It was just a thought.
     
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    The clothing bin is for adults and children’s clothing. It benefits a children’s charitable cause.
     
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    sounds like we’re on
    the same page.
     
  12. FlossyMay

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    I can't remember her name, but there was a missing child case years back where the girl's body was found in her bedroom days after she'd been reported missing. IIRC she was tangled up in the bedclothes at the foot of her bed and no one saw her when they searched. I think that one was accidental death or natural causes.
     
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    I would hope they thoroughly checked her house - but there was the case of the murdered child in the family shed behind the house not that long ago ...
    jMO
     
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    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    This is different, because they knew for a fact that the house was a crime scene.

    In that one, mistakes were clearly made. The difference is that they were looking for a missing child, and had no underlying crime that they were investigating.

    They had a clear and brutal murder here, and I can’t imagine that they would have missed a body while combing the scene for evidence. That whole house would have been processed.
     
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    With a very fine toothed comb.
     
  16. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    Maybe he took clean clothing from the donation bin and put his own bloody clothing inside and ran?
     
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    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    I’m not sure that’s easy to do. There’s actually several documented instances of people dying after becoming stuck while trying to remove clothing.

    I guess it could have been full, which would make it easier. I doubt it though. I think it was just a dump site. Surely the killer would have been able to find clean clothes inside the house.
     
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    Taking clothes from the bin occurred to me too. I've seen people leave clothing outside in bags if the bin was full, but I find this unlikely since there were TWO bins at this site.

    I think it's more likely whoever commited the crime had clothing at Christine's or in their car.
     
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    ITA. The expectation that there would be clothing that fit and was accessible is too much of a stretch for me - whoever did it had clothes to change into assuming the bloody clothing was the killers - if it was the baby’s or Moms that changes things IMO
     
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    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    This is all police would say about why they were back at Christine Holloway’s home today. @News12CT

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    Marissa Alter on Twitter
     

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