Damien Echols' accusations against others ..

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  1. Mrs G Norris

    Mrs G Norris #JeSuisUrsa

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    I have noticed while reviewing old footage of Damien, especially in interviews, that he has accused others of a number of things in relation to this case.

    I am not just talking about accusing John Mark Byers of being the killer, or of more recent accusations against Terry Hobbs, but he has also accused Jerry Driver of demanding sexual favours from teen boys, guards of beating him when he first arrived in prison, and of being raped on death row.

    I'm going to keep each accusation in a new post and add links of him making the accusations, if he has retracted them at a later date or if they have been proved or backed up by another party it would be interesting to see that too.

    He has had a lot to say over the years.
     
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  3. Cappuccino

    Cappuccino Active Member

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    Well, he definitely retracted the accusation against JMB. I believe he wrote to JMB and apologised too, I seem to remember Byers reading the letter out on camera during PL3.
     
  4. Mrs G Norris

    Mrs G Norris #JeSuisUrsa

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    The alleged rape of Damien Echols

    In the second part of the four-part series in the Jonesboro Sun, Echols told reporter George Jared that he had been “repeatedly raped after family visitations and forced to perform sex acts with guards.”

    Here is a link to the article: http://www.wm3blackboard.com/forum/index.php?topic=3124.0;wap2

    Prison hasn’t been kind to him, Echols said. His eyesight is waning, and his teeth are deteriorating. Echols claims that prison guards hurt his teeth when they hit his face. He said he was told that one tooth could be repaired, but officials will only allow it to be pulled.

    “They’re not going to spend a lot of money for medical treatment for someone they plan to kill,” he said.

    Echols claims he’s been repeatedly raped after family visitations and forced to perform sex acts with guards.


    The original piece is only obtainable via this board because ..

    "Initially, I got the Jonesboro Sun series from a “Free West Memphis Three” website. The four articles have been removed from the site. I wonder why? I tried to access the series through the newspaper website for hyperlink in this article, but was informed I would have to pay a $7.95 registration fee to “sign up” for old/archived articles. I am not about the spend $7.95 for anything about the West Memphis Three. For those determined to “fact-check” my source of information, please feel free to do so."

    http://www.capitalpunishmentbook.com/?p=675

    CLAIM OF RAPE ON DEATH ROW MAY BE HOAX

    Arkansas Democrat-Gazette
    June 7, 1995, Wednesday
    SECTION: NEWS ; Pg. 2B
    LENGTH: 391 words
    HEADLINE: CLAIM OF RAPE ON DEATH ROW MAY BE HOAX
    BYLINE: RAY PIERCE, Democrat-Gazette Pine Bluff Bureau
    DATELINE: PINE BLUFF

    -- A condemned murderer's claim that he was raped in prison may have been a ruse to entice the Arkansas State Police to investigate certain activities on death row.

    Sources close to the investigation said Damien Echols, sentenced to death in 1994 for the murders of three West Memphis boys, recanted his story about being raped by death row inmate Mark Gardner.

    The allegation appears to have been fabricated, possibly with Gardner's help, to get state police investigators to death row at the Maximum Security Unit at Tucker, the sources said.
    The state police has finished an investigation at the prison. On Tuesday, state police investigators presented their findings to prison officials and Prosecuting Attorney Betty Dickey.


    http://westmemphishomicidesdiscussi...Gardner-WHAT-Echols-lied?page=-1#.Up1OeJGZOXs

    INQUIRY FINDS NO PROOF ECHOLS RAPED CORRECTION DEPARTMENT STILL STUDYING HOW CONTRABAND GOT ON DEATH ROW

    Arkansas State Police investigators found no substantial evidence that death row inmate Damien Echols was raped by fellow inmate Mark Gardner, an Arkansas State Police spokesman said Wednesday.

    .......

    Jordan said that if Echols --convicted for the 1993 murder of three West Memphis boys --has had sex with Gardner, it was not forced. "Echols and Gardner changed their story about the alleged attack on several different occasions," Jordan said. "They either alleged that there were several rapes or that there were none at all."

    Jordan and Ables confirmed reports that an 8/4-inch by 14/4-inch cinder block in the wall between Echols' and Gardner's cells had been removed and replaced with a papier-mache block that had apparently been in place about nine months. Among conflicting accounts investigators received were that Gardner threatened to kill Echols if Echols didn't crawl through the space, or that Gardner crawled through the opening and raped Echols.


    https://www.facebook.com/wm3truth/posts/378013398952976
     
  5. Mrs G Norris

    Mrs G Norris #JeSuisUrsa

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    Damien Echols beaten by guards on death row

    He talked about being beaten by guards for 18 days when he was sent to a maximum security prison and how he did not see sunlight on death row for 10 years.

    http://www.thv11.com/news/article/2...kansas-for-first-time-since-leaving-death-row

    Echols, who recently published a book called "Life After Death," did his best to describe an experience that felt incomprehensible to those in the audience. "It's the most cold, soulless environment you can imagine," he said, one where the guards' idea of an initiation was to "beat the hell out of me for 18 straight days. You realize when something like that happens, you're not living in the world anymore."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-hogan/damien-echols-west-memphis-three_b_2093391.html

    And here in an interview with MyFox Memphis: http://youtu.be/leEtbjm2uHI?t=11m14s

    Has this ever been corroborated or denied?
     
  6. Mrs G Norris

    Mrs G Norris #JeSuisUrsa

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    Damien accuses Jerry Driver of using stand-over tactics with teenage boys for sexual favours

    He accuses Jerry Driver of coming through the neighbourhood, picking up teenage boys and telling them unless they gave him oral sex he was going to take them to jail and press charges against them.

    http://youtu.be/leEtbjm2uHI?t=5m50s

    Has this been corroborated or denied?
     
  7. reedus23

    reedus23 New Member

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    Wasn't this the guy that got arrested? Something about him creeps me out. Don't buy Echols' claims, but something about him makes my skin crawl.

    And for whatever it's worth, which isn't much, I personally don't care what Echols has or has not said about other people. I'm not here to defend Echols.
     
  8. UdbCrzy2

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    West of Memphis:
    More Lies and Deception from Damien Echols


    http://beforeitsnews.com/movies/201...d-deception-from-damien-echols-2-2437044.html
     
  9. kyleb

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    Yeah, he's like Winona Ryder in The Crucible, a witch who cries wolf.
     
  10. Ausgirl

    Ausgirl Enough Is Enough!

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    ME TOO! I am glad I am not the only one, lol. I was just thinking this last night!
     
  11. gloomy

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    That interview with MyFox - it's just too much...:floorlaugh::facepalm: I'm sorry but it's very hard for me to believe DE.

    Awesome thread!
     
  12. Mrs G Norris

    Mrs G Norris #JeSuisUrsa

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    I've noticed he gets a funny look on his face when he's about to tell a whopper .. which is nearly all the time.
     
  13. kyleb

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    Yeah, I figure that's why he likes his dark glasses, they help him hide his tells.
     
  14. Mrs G Norris

    Mrs G Norris #JeSuisUrsa

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    Damien accuses his public defenders of being so 'incompetent' that they didn't even want to call the witnesses to the stand to corroborate his alibi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFWsls-kVWc

    Really? I thought his 'alibi' completely fell apart.
     
  15. UdbCrzy2

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    Damien Echols put in isolation

    TUCKER, Ark. - Convicted child-killer Damien Wayne Echols was placed in punitive isolation Friday for having a homemade knife in his death row cell.

    http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/1994/sep/10/damien-echols-put-isolation/




    'Shank' found in Echols's cell

    Prison officials at the Tucker Maximum Security Unit north of Pine Bluff conducted a routine search of Echols's cell on Tuesday and found the 8-inch piece of sharpened metal that inmates call a "shank."

    http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/1994/sep/09/shank-found-echolss-cell/
     
  16. Ausgirl

    Ausgirl Enough Is Enough!

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    Didn't one of the alibi girls speak up regarding the fact she was never called as a witness? I glimpsed an article on it the other day, wish I'd kept the link.
     
  17. UdbCrzy2

    UdbCrzy2 New Member

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    Video interview with KATV

    He's telling the interviewer:

    About a 'coverup'

    Not wanting the DNA to come out

    He had to eat with his hands because he forgot how to use a fork.

    He had to learn how to walk again

    He was blind, but later in the interview he is showing artwork and talking about all of his books

    Claims he wasn't getting decent medical care or nutrition

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HXqtAnZTcg"]WM3 on KATV (Part 2) - YouTube[/ame]
     
  18. Mrs G Norris

    Mrs G Norris #JeSuisUrsa

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    Had to learn how to walk again and eat with his hands? Was Damien a like a feral child lost in the Black Forest, running with wolves on all fours scavenging for food? No he was in prison in Arkansas.

    Hilarious!

    I'm amazed he and the reporters can keep a straight face.

    BTW: His claims that prison made him blind are my favorite. I'm amazed he hasn't sued them yet.
     
  19. Ausgirl

    Ausgirl Enough Is Enough!

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    Hey Mrs G - I'm not saying this just to be contrary, promise, but some years ago I was good friends with the world's only (back then..) blind film maker (he's not hard to find on Google). I met him through an online writing group, and didn't believe he was something like 80% blind at the time, with that progressive retina disease. He wrote, he read, he made films.. all through a field of vision just a few millimeters wide.

    There's blind -and there's vision impaired, and legally blind. I know vitamin deficiencies can affect vision, and 18 years of bad prison food would sure help that along, is my bet.

    The problem with Echols is, we can't tell when he's lying and when he's not. But before I poke fun at a person I think is lying about being blind- I'd want to make sure he's really not blind. It isn't a nice to be wrong about things like that.

    Pity he's such a BS'er. I find it easier to not give much regard to anything he says at all.
     
  20. Mrs G Norris

    Mrs G Norris #JeSuisUrsa

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    There is no comparison between a real visually impaired person and Damien.
     
  21. ScarlettScarpetta

    ScarlettScarpetta When the going gets tough, drink coffee

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    In your opinion...

    IT makes sense to me, that all that time in prison would affect the eyes especially if he had some other eye condition.
     

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