Darin the silent one

Discussion in 'Darlie Routier' started by Jimthecarpetguy, Jun 10, 2006.

  1. Jimthecarpetguy

    Jimthecarpetguy New Member

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    As I told detectivewannabe I have my reasons for suspecting Darin in the complicity of this crime.It comes down to what is believable and what is not.It is not inconcievable that a mother could murder her own children,it's been done before and will happen again.He knows but can't say as this will put him right next to Darlie onDR.If Darlie says so it would only seal her own fate and thus catch 22. He saw what happened and probably masterminded(if you want to call it that)the whole intruder story in order to clear his wife w/the double d's.Men will do strange things for a woman-just ask any of us!The truth will go to the grave when Darlie gets the needle .
     
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  3. Goody

    Goody New Member

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    O, Darin will write a tell all book that is half true. He's never been able to make the money off of it he thought he would in the early days, so I will be surprised if he doesn't do something to clear his name and make what he can after it is over.
     
  4. Jimthecarpetguy

    Jimthecarpetguy New Member

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    Sorry Goody but this guy is not smart enough to do that much.I would give my left arm to have 5 minutes alone in a sealed room with this guy.Does he know Dave M. is in luv w/his wife?
     
  5. detectivewannabe

    detectivewannabe New Member

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    But, JTCG, do you think Darin was involved BEFORE the killings took place. I have a hard time believing Darin just saw the killings and "masterminded" the intruder theory. If that's all he did and then later on "fessed" up that he made up the intruder; I'm not sure he'd be in that much trouble as to end up on death row with Darlie. Wouldn't that just be hindering an investigation?? I'm not sure what to think about Darin. I know men do alot of stupid things for women, but to think she viciously murdered your children..... look at Randy Yates, he bailed???? And even if he truely believes she is innocent, how long can he live without her on the outside and not have a mother for his other son and a partner for himself? I, for what ever reason, believe that he had a little something for Darlie's sister that night and that is what started the arguement.


    Just some random thoughts to consider. :(
     
  6. Jimthecarpetguy

    Jimthecarpetguy New Member

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    I have always thought that maybe there was a little sumthin' sumthin' with the little sisters.(yes I meant to pluralize.)The sister who brought the silly string has gone into her shell and will never talk to anyone about the case.Back to Darin-IF he fessesd up the charge would not be obstruction of justice but I am sure one of the legal minds on WS could tell us more specific. Conspiracy to Commit Capital Murder comes to mind-if there is such a charge,I don't know that's not my field.
     
  7. detectivewannabe

    detectivewannabe New Member

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    BUT, do you think he was involved before the killings or do you think he just "happened" upon them and went into "protective" mode?
     
  8. sharkeyes

    sharkeyes Queen of Swords and Cups

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    I agree that Darin will attempt to profit in some way after Darlie's execution - maybe a book, or exclusive interview - i.e. Dateline NBC, or MSN Investigates or some documentary-type forum where he can lament about his loss and show the world what a stand-up guy he's been all the years Darlie was on DR.

    At one time I thought Darin may have given Darlie the idea of staging a robbery/break-in type of deal (like he admitted to considering previously with that car - Jaguar, I believe, to get insurance $) - anyway, my initial thought was that while he was taking the babysitter home, Darlie would do the "robbery/break-in" and he would return and find her beaten/injured, etc......but that things went way out of control and ended up the way they did. But, the more I think about that theory, it seems unlikely because of the time involved - he was probably gone longer than he should have been, but not THAT long. I believe he knows more/is involved and has clammed up to keep his a** out of jail.

    IMO
     
  9. Jimthecarpetguy

    Jimthecarpetguy New Member

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    Definately the latter.Once you've told one lie you have to tell another to corraborate it and so on and so on.....The truth is buried so far underneath that...
     
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    Jimthecarpetguy New Member

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    If I was a publisher I would sign him to a deal ASAP.I agree he'll make a deal right after the state of Texas murders her.This guy may be an innocent victim but at this point I wouldn't I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
     
  11. Goody

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    O, I think Darin is much smarter than people give him credit for. He may be a little short in cleverness and he likes to talk too much. He thinks he can use that good ol' southern boy charm to win people over and they won't pay that much attention to what he says or call him on the contradictions. This case has taught him though and he knows he needs to be quiet because he doesn't always think before he speaks. Some might call him a habitual liar but I think it is more along the lines of habitual bullsh*tter.

    I am sure he knows about Dave. If they read this forum, he surely does. LOL! Dave probably is not the only one.
     
  12. Goody

    Goody New Member

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    Nor would I.
     
  13. Jimthecarpetguy

    Jimthecarpetguy New Member

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    Once again I can only say WOW!I live in the same city and I hope I never run into the guy and I think I have just said too much,Darlie Kee has friends in the govt.and no doubt the FBI will at my door soonLMFAO.
     
  14. Goody

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    I don't think anything was going on between Darin and Dana. She was engaged at the time and already living with her fiance, I think. Later she said she wanted to go home that night because he would be home. (Maybe he was a truck drver?) Point is, there just doesn't seem to be enough smoike there to warrant the suspicion that they were fooling around behind Darlie's back. Flirty? Yeah, but Darlie was flirty, too, so I don't see any red flags there.

    As for conspiracy charges, it would depend on what part of the crime Darin actually participated in. If in advance, it would be conspiracy to commit murder and probably make him a full fledged co-defendant for murder itself. If it was after the fact, it wuold probably be obstruction of justice, tampering with evidence, etc.
     
  15. Goody

    Goody New Member

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    Just watch your back, Jim. Watch your back. LOL!
     
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    Goody New Member

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    I, for one, don't believe the latter, esp with the timeline the state used. But I have no idea where or when he actually became involved. I am not even sure he was upstairs when it happened. He could have been but there is no way he could have heard the shattering wine glass from up there and he has always been so consistent on hearing it that it makes me think it left a huge impression on him.....and that puts him much closer to it...imho, of course.
     
  17. Jimthecarpetguy

    Jimthecarpetguy New Member

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    Has no one thoght of this scenario before?There are some disrepencies about Darins whereabouts DURING the crime.Was he upstairs or not?What if he had an argument w/Darlie downstairs while the boys were sleeping?She may have gotten a ****you attitude and slain the 1st kid right in front of him and mortally wounded the2nd before he could react.Then the coverup begins,"Darlie we've got to do this and that etc."..I wish I could come up with a scenario that doesn't have the mom killing the kids but nothing comes to fruition.I am more concerned with the level of involvement that Darin had in this and how LE never looked at it properly.
     
  18. Dani_T

    Dani_T New Member

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    There are a couple of problems with this scenario.

    Firstly what is Darin doing whilst Darlie starts stabbing the boys? She actually manages to kill Devon and stab Damon multiple times before he reacts? That sounds highly implausible...

    And it relies on the second problem, that both Darin and Darlie (neither of whom seem to have exhibited any concrete sociopathological behaviour prior to this incident) apparently had no problem with killing their kids. As you have said it is not inconceivable that a mother would kill her kids. Furthermore it is not inconceivable that a father would kill his kids. But to have both a mother who kills her kids and a father who, after having just witnessed his kids' murders, decides on the spot to protect Darlie (and in your scenario right after they have had an argument) really is bordering on inconceivable (or at the least incredibly implausible).

    Thirdly, the timeline just doesn't fit much running around and staging. No doubt there was a basic degree of staging (eg wine glass, wash up around sink, cut screen, sock - which could have been accidental). But I don't see how Darin who has suddenly been thrust into this situation by his homicidal wife is going to be react quickly enough to be able to clincally decide what to do. Whilst I'm not sure we need to be 100% tied to the 8-9 minutes between Damon's last wound and his death I doubt it would have been much longer than that. Waddell was on the scene within 4 or so mins of the call (wow.... I REALLY need to brush up on my evidence and 911 call! Someone correct me if that is wrong). That leaves roughly 5 minutes between Damon's last stab wound and the 911 call.

    I just don't see Darin coming to grips with what has just happened (his kids have been murdered by his wife right in front of his eyes), and after not having reacted whilst she's in the middle of her homicidal rage he suddenly snaps to, decides to protect her and then manages to organise the staging of a scene

    Having said all that a lot of the stuff regarding Darin in this case doesn't make much sense. I don't take much notice of the 'Darin said .......' comments (eg. the size of her breasts etc) because I think they can be twisted somewhat in hindsight. But what Darin himself said on the record, particularly in comparison with the evidence, can sometimes raise red flags. The whole hearing the wine glass thing is strange (since he clearly couldn't have heard it). Also wierd is the pants on/pants off thing and the mention of remembering his wallet hitting the floor when he was upstairs. There is other stuff as well... (eg not seeing Damon when he came down the stairs)

    Whilst I agree that Darin probably knows more than what he is saying I don't see him being a willing and ready accomplice in the way you describe if the crime went down the way we all think it did. But then again maybe we have all misunderstood how the crime happened...
     
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    Darin ran down the stairs wearing jeans. Did he regularly sleep in his jeans or did he hear screams, jump out of bed and take the time put his jeans on? What would you do in this situation?


    Also as I mentioned in a previous post, Darlie did not mention Drake upstairs when the police arrived. She also did not ask Darin if he noticed if the baby was okay before coming downstairs, and he was supposed to have been sleeping in the same room with Drake. The 911 tape indicates Darin just arriving on the scene. Darlie did not ask Darin anything about Drake's condition upstairs. I'll grant you they had their hands full downstairs but wouldn't you ask your husband about the baby sleeping upstairs? (Did you see Drake??? Is he okay???)
     
  20. sharkeyes

    sharkeyes Queen of Swords and Cups

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    Good point. I don't think Darin was sleeping at all that night, (there had to be sounds/noise during the time those boys were murdered) and I don't think Darlie just "snapped" and killed her kids....there was something planned that went horribly wrong....and Darin knows the story (or at least a good deal more than he's willing to admit). IMO
     
  21. Goody

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    Dani, why are you so convinced that the timeline is correct? That both boys were stabbed one right after the other?
     

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