Dash Cam for Oct.4th a.m.

Discussion in 'Lisa Irwin' started by Sparklin, Jan 26, 2012.

  1. Sparklin

    Sparklin New Member

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    http://www.kctv5.com/video?clipId=6678236&autostart=true

    I would love to know why the cop stops for a full two minutes at 4:08 and doesn't proceed until the other vehicle drives towards him and turns lights off. Am I seeing things there?

    You can clearly see the white car and the work truck in the drive.
     
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  3. askfornina

    askfornina New Member

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    At the very end of the video, it looks like there could be a person on the stoop. You can see the a moving blob if you watch the video in fullscreen.

    Screenshot for reference:

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  4. SyraKelly

    SyraKelly New Member

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    It does seem strange he stopped for a full 2 mins-I am guessing it was not called in as a missing child,a police officer would not stop if it was..
     
  5. alwaysonmymind

    alwaysonmymind Proud Army Mom

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    Not seeing things. The 2nd car is an an unmarked patrol car. It's never a good idea for 1 officer to arrive on the scene of something like this alone. Safety in numbers and all. The 1st officer had to wait for the 2nd one.
    IMO, both officers turned their lights off to conceal their arrival. Another precaution.
     
  6. Jacie Estes

    Jacie Estes Medical Marijuana Advocate

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    For those not familiar with KCMO, you can see that it is not a flat terrain. Walking to the river from the house is not a stroll across a flat field, it's a 'hilly' hike.
     
  7. In da Middle

    In da Middle of everything

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    This is exactly as I see it and does fall straight in line with being called in as a possible burglary in process. They did not know what kind of situation they were entering.
     
  8. In da Middle

    In da Middle of everything

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    Sure is!. Chouteau is about the only flat road around at all. The city of North Kansas City (area directly to the west a couple of miles) is flat, but this area is known for it's hills. A lot of people from other parts of the area come up here in the winter for some awesome sledding. Lonnnnnnnnng rolling hills.
     
  9. SyraKelly

    SyraKelly New Member

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    So IF this was called in as a burglary..why...Your child is missing and you call the police for a burglary-Wouldn't you want the police there ASAP...That video shows me that they were not rushing for a missing child..JMO
     
  10. In da Middle

    In da Middle of everything

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    It was DISPATCHED as a possible burglary in process with a missing child. Not the families fault if this is the way it was dispatched. For the safety of LE, they will wait for backup when approaching an unknown, possibly volatile situation. LE was following proper procedure for what the call was dispatched as.
     
  11. RANCH

    RANCH Well-Known Member

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    Was the 911 call released? I don't think it was. That would sure clear things up here.
     
  12. DeAnn

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    I wasn't sure on why the one officer waited but I think you and others are right.

    But to clarify..it wasn't called in as a burglary in progress. Jeremy Irwin called in as a kidnapping. It was DISPATCHED and coded to the officers as burglary in progress.

    But the one officer is clearly driving fast with sirens and lights at times and he has the dispatcher repeat the information to him. Not saying you are saying this but to be clear this wasn't a nonchalent drive by the one officer. I think the second one waited for the first as you and others have said.

    Finally, I am pretty sure a few seconds were caught off when transferring the DVD video into the content management system to get on the web. I'll relook at it more closely Friday for the figure on the stoop. Thanks to the person who pointed that out.

    911 tapes of active investigations are exempt from public disclosure by Missouri Sunshine Law. That's why Joplin 911 calls released, this one has not been.
     
  13. DeAnn

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    I also realized that we must now know exactly what time the 911 call was made. Both dash cams start pretty much at the same time. They don't start when the officers' vehicles begin moving. Based on the open-records request and the police department's wording in their second response, I think it's safe to say the 911 call came in at 3:58 a.m.

    I must have been brain fried earlier today. I couldn't figure out why the police department released so much dash cam video of them sitting doing nothing or just driving...but it's tied to the moment that Jeremy Irwin dialed 911 imo.
     
  14. RANCH

    RANCH Well-Known Member

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    Thanks DeAnn for keeping Lisa's story alive.
     
  15. lauriej

    lauriej 'wild rose country...'

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    --the 911 call was not released--but the dispatch logs were.

    ( there was an entire thread on them here i believe..)

    http://www.kmbc.com/r/29471219/detail.html

     
  16. RANCH

    RANCH Well-Known Member

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    Thanks lauriej. I sure would like to hear the 911 tapes myself.
     
  17. Dewey2Me1MoThyme

    Dewey2Me1MoThyme Have clue will sleuth!

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    BBM Both? Is there a link to the other one? I saw only one in the OP or am I missing something obvious? TIA :D
     
  18. askfornina

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    Are the protocols different when a call is dispatched as a burglary versus a child abduction?

    I would think so but does anyone know? Was this a big ooops by LE?
     
  20. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    JMO, I don't think the two minutes made any difference to the outcome. If it was the abductor strolling with Lisa at midnight or at 4 am when MT saw him he was gone by the time 911 was even called and if it was the family they would have got rid of Lisa before calling 911.
     
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    ~n/t~ New Member

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    But they could've dispatched other vehicles to look for a missing child, wouldn't they? They could've had other vehicles searching the area or looking out for anything/anyone suspicious?

    I realize there has to be a written report first, I guess. IDK
     

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