DC - Savvas Savopoulos, family & Veralicia Figueroa murdered; Daron Wint Arrested #4

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  1. oceanblueeyes

    oceanblueeyes Well-Known Member

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    In past cases I have seen Prosecutors request the Judge to sign off on an order to get DNA or fingerprints from a defendant.

    IMO
     
  2. FerrariRose

    FerrariRose New Member

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    I edited my post to remove the inaccuracy about the maid knowing beforehand about the money. I know I read that somewhere. There is so much misinformation out there.

    Here is what the Washington Post says about the maid:

    But according to D.C FOX affiliate, Gutierrez spoke with the assistant who told her he dropped the cash off.

     
  3. roguelady

    roguelady Active Member

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    If there may have been some cash transactions at SS home in the past (and not frequently) - could have been cash for art. I am not in the art world. Just assuming that many of those (like car sales) are all cash. Also, I agree with other posters that if they had a very extensive art collection and valuables, they did not have a sprinkler system downstairs (maybe upstairs for bedrooms?) but not in the main living area. If the slightest problem would set off the sprinklers, the damage would be extensive to fine art, etc.
     
  4. i.b.nora

    i.b.nora I am polka dot

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  5. FerrariRose

    FerrariRose New Member

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    You're welcome! :)
     
  6. FerrariRose

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    Thank you Spokane! :)
     
  7. GigiG

    GigiG New Member

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    Very interesting video. Also, so sad and weird that someone so well-practiced in martial arts was still rendered helpless to defend himself and his family.
     
  8. popsicle

    popsicle faith hope love

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  9. *JMO*

    *JMO* Active Member

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    I agree. I have a relative that lives in a tightknit immigrant community. Once I overheard someone being critical of her for having her hair always "done", along with her nails based on her income. In other words, the same old arguments everyone hears about some people's priorities.

    Well, this relative of ours has family all around her that work in jobs doing hair and nails and they all do each others...all day long. These women take care of each other. They also share clothes, purses and shoes so they look like they have 5x's the amount of clothes and accessories than they really do.

    So really, my point is who knows that she doesn't do her own nails, or had a family member doing them because they wanted her to look nice on camera? It doesn't mean she isn't grieving or has mixed up priorities. I think everyone has different circumstances, support networks, and coping mechanisms and even cultural influences.

    I just don't find the fact that she got her nails done significant.
     
  10. FerrariRose

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    There is another photo, close up, where you can see the expensive red car in the garage. It is parked on the left side of the garage, in front of the Range Rover.
     
  11. roguelady

    roguelady Active Member

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    NG has given different accounts from day one. I am giving her benefit of the doubt. Also, I mentioned the fire sprinklers at the S's home. This home was built in the late 20's, and has probably been updated and remodeled over the years. I might be wrong, but most likely they had NO sprinklers (art, antiques and age of home) but they must have had a very expensive security system. Apparently it was not activated (middle of day, people coming and going, dogs in and out, etc.) Has anyone determined if Phillip went to school on Wednesday? Where is the Bentley kept and the expensive sports car? (not the Porsche). These are minor details but even the cars are a mystery.
     
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    It never specifies in the document which of the witnesses LE is concerned for. Three were interviewed and they are saying they are only concerned for 2 of those 3. As I stated before, it seems like the 2 witnesses would be W-2 because that person led LE to the fact that W-1 was lying,and W-3 because they are an eye witness to someones identity. W-1 just was a drop off person,why would he be in danger?
     
  13. *JMO*

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    I thought the Porsche belonged to AS. Do we know this was the vehicle used to drive SS on a regular basis?

    "Authorities linked what may have been two different men to Amy Savopoulos' blue Porsche 911 the day of the killings."

    http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/0...ief-says-suspect-remains-at-large-114135.html
     
  14. mysteriew

    mysteriew A diamond in process

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    DNA I understand. But it has been tested in the Supreme Court and they have passed it for LE to take fingerprints of arrestees and to put them in a database. And for them to maintain the prints even after the person has completed serving their time. Now DNA is much more limited.
     
  15. Isabelle

    Isabelle Verified registered nurse

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    Knowing SS's martial arts background (a long one), if there was only one perpetrator present he would have most likely been able to kill him. There had to be other perps present.
     
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    As for getting nails done, the day of my mothers funeral,I got my hair chopped off. I remember the beautician looking at me weird when I told her I wanted my shoulder length hair in a short spikey cut and it was my mothers funeral.When I think about it now,I don't know what compelled me to do that. I also went out and bought myself a brand new outfit to wear. I guess looking back,maybe if I looked good on the outside,I would feel better on the inside? Who knows,it all felt like an out of body experience at the time. People do the weirdest things when grieving.
     
  17. al66pine

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    rfk ^Good catch^. TYVM.
    Per http://dcra.dc.gov/publication/building-permit-guidelines w link to a pdf*
    permit is good for one year from date of issue, so for S home, exp. ~Mar 20, 2014.
    Seems likely, if work had not bn completed & inspected by then, DC would req.
    homeowner to apply for extension of 'old' permit or a new permit, or ?
    Soooo seems - if no other permit issued, improvments s/h/bn done > a year ago.
    IOW, likely no work being done currently or recently.
    JM2cts.
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    * "20. How long is the permit valid?
    Answer: Any permit issued shall become null and void if the authorized work is not begun and inspected pursuant to Section 109 within one year after the permit is issued,...
    For additional information see Chapter 1, Section 105 of 2013 12 DCMR A
    ."
    sbm bbm.
     
  18. Mrs G Norris

    Mrs G Norris #JeSuisUrsa

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    Art is rarely cash unless everyone is avoiding tax and even then .. Often payments are staggered, with a deposit made to secure the work, then balance paid upon pickup, so even though he may have used that as an excuse to get the money quickly it does not represent how transactions generally take place.
     
  19. fred&edna

    fred&edna Well-Known Member

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    Maybe this photo of red car in drive?
     

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  20. Voice4theSilent

    Voice4theSilent Well-Known Member

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    I would be interested in seeing that photo if anyone can find it to post. TIA!
     
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