DCF Shelter Hearings

Discussion in 'Dr. Teresa Sievers' started by MsJosie, Feb 28, 2016.

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  1. MsArk

    MsArk Well-Known Member

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    I won't blast you for sure. In fact, I mentioned the exact same thing a few days ago. I appreciate all of the insight you provide with regard to custody issues O'mama! TY
     


  2. msboo

    msboo Well-Known Member

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    YES, irishchook.... I posted my suspicions after The Good News started appearing here. Not sure but it seems the kids may have already moved in with MG when MS had his quicky hearing, then left in a wink. ALSO AGREE with Oregonmama regarding case overload vs timely result, etc.

    I was gladly shocked seeing the 1st posts & link here of the fact the kids were already living with their maternal grandmother. Like others WSs here, shelter & custody seemed to drag on THEN we saw what seemed to be a 'senseless hearing', where MS gleefully walked in, sat down, had a quick 'flirt' with his Attny, THEN left. I was like 'huh?! THEN we all wondered what happened with the DCF.... JMO but the hearing was already scheduled, MS is hostile, and shelter/custody aspects at this point need to be resolved quickly now so they can move on with this ongoing process. We may never know what went on in the under-current of DCF... & don't care either since it was in kids favor! IF the kids were already with MG at the time of MS '60 second' hearing... then MS was hood-winked!
     
  3. AZlawyer

    AZlawyer Verified Attorney

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    Based on 20 years of experience with the AZ child welfare system, I agree it was a tactic. I think the main point of the tactic was to undercut any argument by MS at the next hearing that TS's mom "can't handle" the kids--and also to see if the girls show any signs of having been brainwashed re: TS's family.

    The temporary move would have been easy, as you suggested. Just list the kids as on "extended visit" or "respite care" with grandma.
     
  4. DesiredJustice

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    "Sievers also denies causing his daughters “severe psychological and emotional harm” as Groves claims in her petition for custody."

    Lyin sack! It doesn't state why he is claiming this though.
    Why would he want to make sure the "kids stayed back and spent extra time with TS's mom" if they weren't healthy for them to be around her???
     
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    Just when you think he can't go any lower . . . But it is great seeing him take those shackled baby steps in the arrest video.
     
  7. Oregonmama

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    The funny part is Mark does not have final say. If he wasnt arrested he would have the power to say no to Mary. Once social services is involved, they are your new mom and dad. DCF has custody in the legal aspect while mark still is considered a father. Can't win this one Mark!
     
  8. Jessicades

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    When my husband passed away in our bedroom from cancer, my kids wouldn't step in the room for a month. They were devastated, and needed counseling to deal with the grief. Having a parent murdered allegedly by the other parent, is a whole new realm of emotional damage. I know in grief, stupid stuff does fly out of your mouth (I know I had some moments), but having people over to the house right after the funeral where their mother was brutally killed? Knowing people are staring at the spot where she died had to be such an emotional violation for the girls.
     
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    Meant to reply with quote to respond to you, DesiredJustice. Still a newbie!

    Meant to
     
  10. Oregonmama

    Oregonmama Well-Known Member

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    Sorry for your family's loss. Hugs.

    :welcome6:
     
  11. Anyone have any information on why judge was changed in custody case?
     
  12. tlcya

    tlcya Old and Tired Websleuth

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    FORT MYERS, Fla. – The mother-in-law of Mark Sievers, accused of planning the killing of his wife, Dr. Teresa Sievers, will obtain custody of the couple’s children, Lee County Judge Robert Branning ruled Friday afternoon.

    But the arrangement could be temporary. Mark Sievers’ mother, Bonnie, filed a motion Thursday night to have the children placed in her custody. The motion will be heard on May 11

    [...]

    Mark Sievers cried twice during the proceedings, once when he told the judge the names of his daughters and when the girls walked into the courtroom following the ruling.

    http://www.winknews.com/2016/04/08/...o-gain-temporary-custody-of-sievers-children/

    I didn't realize the judge had been changed but am glad to at least read the ruling was for TS mom for temporary guardianship.
     
  13. tlcya

    tlcya Old and Tired Websleuth

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    Interesting that there were tears from MS.

    As was the timing of said tears. Were they for effect? I know my opinion.
     
  14. beach

    beach Verified Expert

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    First thought - Praise the Lord!


    Second thought - Mark is losing it. He is completely out of control and losing his mind. This is his worst nightmare.

    I take no pleasure is saying that either. EVERYONE - every grandparent, aunt, uncle, friend and especially their father - should want what is in the best interest of these girls. This shouldn't be a damn family war. Those children have been through enough, FGS! This is NOT ABOUT MARK SIEVERS and his wishes to alienate the girls from Teresa's family. It is about what is in the best interest of those girls. PERIOD. Unfortunately, I don't think he will ever feel that way though.

    I have ZERO doubt that MaryAnn having custody is in the best interest of Teresa AND Mark's girls. And frankly, I think Bonnie knows that too. I believe Mark cried and manipulated her into filing that emergency petition knowing the decision was about to be locked up. Otherwise, if Bonnie really desired custody, that petition would have been filed long before now.

    stepping down off my soapbox now
     
  15. beach

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    I actually kind of believe they might have been real tears this time. The girls were the last thing he had any control over. And, that control was vitally important to him.

    If those tears were for effect - newsflash! It is not easy for someone as transparent as Mark Sievers is to manipulate the system when it comes to what is in the best interest of those girls. There are counselors, a GAL, DCF, witnesses who can testify. And then there are those background checks. And a JUDGE who, God willing, rules according to what is in the best interest of those girls.

    Anyone who felt they wanted Mark to feel tortured, well it's happening right now. IMO He has no control over his environment and now very, very little control over who raises his children while he is incarcerated. Those invisible bars are more torturous for him than the physical ones that surround his jail cell right now.
     
  16. beach

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    No, I don't know but when time allows I will check to see what is public.

    IOW - just a hunch but if Mark felt the walls closing in, he could have had his attorney file a motion for a change. Desperate move, if that is why.
     
  17. Oregonmama

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    I am surprised he requested that. Normally the same judge stays on the case especially if DCF is involved . I'm not worried about it, Mark will still not win.
     
  18. Oregonmama

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    Im really stunned that BS is wanting custody too. If memory serves me right, didn't DCF state they need to do more checking in to that aspect? Hope there is no drama because the girls are loved so much by so many
     
  19. beach

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    Actually, disregard my hunch because I am 95% sure I was wrong. I've dug around a little and since became aware that 2 judges recently retired on March 31. That means the caseloads would have shifted. Cases would have just been redistributed between other judges.
     
  20. Oregonmama

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    Any info re this new judge and how he rules? I like what was wrote about him in the article that was provided by another poster on this thread and how he shot down someone else's request to take the stand....
     
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