Identified! DE - Dover, WhtMale UP10778, 35-45, in woods, Nov'12 - Ian Withrow

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  1. kpdx

    kpdx Jane Doe was discovered Aug. 14, 1977 outside of E

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    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/10778
    **WARNING POSTMORT TATTOO PHOTOS AT LINK**

    Date Found: Nov. 2, 2012

    WHite Male,est. 69 height
    weight cannot est.

    Est. postmortem: 3 months

    Circumstances
    Location Found
    GPS coordinates 39.19020·N x 75.55024·W
    Address 1 Wooded area south of Frazier Substation, approximately 1/10 mile southwest of the intersection of W. Rustic Lane & Crawford Carroll Avenue
    Address 2
    City Dover
    State Delaware
    Zip code 19901
    County Kent
    Circumstances
    Body found in a wooded area behind the Lowe’s home improvement warehouse in the vicinity of W. Rustic Lane and Crawford Carroll Drive in Dover, DE. Body was hanging from a tree and in an advanced state of decomposition such that the remains were skeletonized.

    Physical
    Hair color Brown
    Head hair Light brown hair with visible rare gray strands is present and adherent to the calvarium measuring up to 4" in length.
    Body hair
    Facial hair
    Left eye color Unknown or Missing
    Right eye color Unknown or Missing
    Eye description

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    No other distinctive body features
    Distinctive features as described below

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    Amputations
    Deformities
    Scars and marks
    Tattoos Due to advanced decomposition, mummified skin was extremely dark/discolored, which completely obscured any potential view of tattoo identifiers. However, extensive restorative efforts successfully transformed portions of decomposed skin to near natural pigmentation thus making visible multiple distinct, discernible tattoos. Each tattoo is depicted in the images section and generally described here and with the image.

    Location: Left Shoulder
    General impression of tattoo design: Polychromatic. Court jester/joker & four aces with card suits. Not likely to be of recent design. May be professional.

    Location: Left mid-forearm
    General impression of tattoo design: Monochromatic. featureless face with a tongue hanging out of a mouth and 2 X’s for eyes. likely non-professional and not recent. May be club related.

    Location: Left wrist
    General impression of tattoo design: Monochromatic. Celtic cross (in a Celtic knot). Professional.

    Location: Right bicep
    General impression of tattoo design: Polychromatic. “Laugh Now - Cry Later” type of symbol with hand and flames, possibly club related.

    Location: Upper right shoulder
    General impression of tattoo design: Monochromatic, various letters/words. First word appears to be “Ruby”.

    Location: Back of neck
    General impression of tattoo design: Monochromatic. Possibly a “hook”, likely non-professional and not recent.
    Location: Upper right shoulder
    General impression of tattoo design: Polychromatic “Pumpkin”, likely by a professional artist.
     
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  3. kpdx

    kpdx Jane Doe was discovered Aug. 14, 1977 outside of E

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    Looked for Pumpkin tattoos around that time/location and found this:

    http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=45642

    Haven't been able to find any updates, missing person reports, etc for him but the circumstance and general demographics fit pretty closely.

    Anyone have a connection with LE in DE?
     
  4. pjclover

    pjclover New Member

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    Seems like a good connection to me. A quick Google search didn't turn anything else up about the missing man - no obit, no follow up info. Very odd.

    The ages are a bit off, but... wouldn't be the first time that happened.

    I'll see if I can reach out to Hal Brown.
     
  5. OkieGranny

    OkieGranny New Member Staff Member Forum Coordinators

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    [​IMG]

    http://starlocalmedia.com/celinarecord/news/sheriff-s-deputy-assists-in-delaware-mystery/article_e076928e-fe53-11e3-8186-0019bb2963f4.html

     
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    Hollstrudy New Member

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    Did you submit this one? Sounds like a good match, I can't find out any further information about RRJ, whether he's alive or deceased :/
     
  7. carbuff

    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    I've seen a description of a set of similar tattoos on a missing man, or perhaps another UID. I'm sure of it. But can I find it? Nope. I'm still looking though.

    I was going to suggest Eric Franks but I see he's on the ruleouts list:

    Exclusions
    The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
    First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
    Dallas Basham 1961 Florida
    Michael Billings 1985 Pennsylvania
    Eric Franks 1972 Michigan
    Paul Hodgden 1985 Colorado
    Matthew Perry 1986 Pennsylvania
    Frank Powell 1977 Virginia
    Philip Sheridan 1943 Delaware
    John Weisbecker 1987 New Jersey
    John Wisniewski 1965 Delaware
    Dong Hwan Yun 1973 Washington
     
  8. carbuff

    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    Something else I noticed: I think he might have been quite a heavyset man. This is his clothing description:

    Pants; Blue denim jeans. "Lee" relaxed fit size 38Wx30L.
    shirt; "Top Heavy" t-shirt size 2XL.
    Sneakers; "Nike" size 13.
    Belt; black leather belt with metal buckle with two prongs.

    bbm

    Those are quite large for a guy measured at 5'9". Maybe he just liked his clothing loose...
     
  9. carbuff

    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    Keith Allan Kirby? He was 23 in 1990, which would make him 45 when the remains were found. He's too tall but other stats match, including mention of possibly similar tattoos.

    Wish the photo of Keith was a bit sharper. I'd like to see the shape of that earlobe, but that's right where it goes the blurriest. The angle his head is tipped at makes it hard to compare his eyebrows and forehead. Hairline looks similar.
     

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    revdangerfield New Member

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    This guy's pumpkin tattoo is on his arm. The UID's pumpkin tattoo is on his neck.
     
  11. im1096

    im1096 Where is Anthony Ray Lofston?

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    Unless I red it wrong - the UID's pumpkin tattoo is on his upper right shoulder.

    "Location: Upper right shoulder General impression of tattoo design: Polychromatic “Pumpkin”, likely by a professional artist."
     
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    jenstar New Member

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    Looking at the neck Tattoo Looks to me like "Ruby" "Brianna" and Michael or Michela ? jmo
     
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    jenstar New Member

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    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    That makes me wonder whether they're positive this guy is white...
     
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    jenstar New Member

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    IDK. Let's look up missing black guys from the area and see if we get a match? I think it's worth a shot. Seems like there's shady LE in the area that maybe accidentally fudged up the paperwork? JMO
     
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    webrocket New Member

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    The UID had a Celtic cross tattoo, not a tattoo I've ever noticed on African Americans.
     
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    LR1 Active Member

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    bflocket Well-Known Member

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    I guess his family knew that he wasn't in a good place in life and were hoping that he'd just moved on somewhere and was still alive.
    For him to have hanged himself is a tragedy. I just wish we knew more about what led to this.

    I also wish there was a better way to help those in deep depression/despair. It seems that one has to do something really f'ed up and then they will get forced treatment. But actually seeking it yourself (and not doing something totally crazy) is like jumping through hoop after hoop and doing back-flip after back-flip. Especially for those without insurance, psychiatric care seems way too expensive and out-of-reach. For many suffering depression, jumping through a single hoop or even just asking for help is just too hard.
     

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