Did Elizabeth find an adoptive couple on her own?

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  1. Prof

    Prof New Member

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    Since we have a thread on EJ killing Gabriel, I thought an alternative thread would be nice, and it has been suggested that we might not be exploring this avenue enough

    I don't have anything really to add to this thread, yet
    I think all possibilities should be explored, though!

    I look forward to seeing some theories and evidence on this!
     
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  3. katiemadonna

    katiemadonna New Member

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    katiemadonna New Member

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    Me too lucky! First time in weeks!
     
  6. Prof

    Prof New Member

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    ME too! I think that it is a possibility that EJ started finding alternatives to the Smith's while still in Arizona -- I do have many reasons to believe in the Smiths' further involvement, but only pursuing them in the hopes that they could finally tell the truth and help find Gabriel- my hopes of this happening are dwindling -- my hopes of EJ talking are rising, though since her phone call to TS

    Perhaps EJ got a clue of what the Smiths were really like, and she found her own way before she left --she still had to have a reason to go to SA IMO
     
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    Thanks for the link and new info. I'm not sure if this really supports Elizabeth acting on her own though. I hope the witness can provide great details and is helpful in finding Gabriel regardless of whether she acted totally on her own, the Smith's had some involvement in finding another couple (or whatever), or the Smiths were mostly the masterminders!

    I elated about any new information!
     
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    Now all we need is for LE to release pictures!
     
  9. not_my_kids

    not_my_kids New Member

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    I really do want to believe that she found a couple.
    On this new development, although it does point to that as a possibility, I must say two things:
    1. If the babysitter is the witness, I will likely just die.
    2. Consider the source.

    So we are looking for hispanic male, 5'9, in his early 20's -30's in San Antonio. Um, not to be offensive, but if that's the best we are going to get...I quit.
     
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    LE hasn't said if the story is true...but then they aren't saying much of anything. I was wondering if this had to do with the Library? Maybe someone saw them there?
     
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    I'm excited too but I'm holding back because this report is from Yami. The Smiths BFF, and the one that brought up the cell phone pings from Victoria. I want to hear it from LE then I'll be super excited!
     
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    Thanks for pointing that out. I really really really hope these are viable witnesses and not someone the Smith's drug up or something presented for sensationalism that has not been researched.
     
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    Okay, on a more positive note, lets assume, (Yes I know what will happen) that EJ did find a couple in SA or had a couple from elsewhere meet her in SA...
    Were they experienced enough to avoid all cameras, or does that videotape exist, like EJ says it did? Is that why LE is so quiet, and finally (now) promising to talk early next week.

    I so hope and pray that this means that they fully expect to have Gabe back by then.
    But if there is a couple, that means that EJ is cooperating, as she says, (allegedly) that she told LE about the couple...I am officially bamboozled.
     
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    I am too! But I HAVE to think there is a good reason for LE not searching the dump. Maybe this is why???? I am praying so!!
     
  15. TXHOPE

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    Yes let's talk about positive stuff! :biggrin: I've always thought LE has more videotape than just EJ getting out of her car and walking across the street to the bus station. Wasn't a tape from Jack in the Box mentioned prior? Maybe someone was with her at the Jack in the Box.
     
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    I am very encouraged by this new development of the 'hispanic male and the 30 something couple.' This actually is the best we've heard in a long time, that there REALLY MAY be a couple.

    Plus, the video at this link, the officer said they expected a possible development 'early next week,' or does he mean THIS week?

    Anyway, it seems to be fitting in.

    12/23 - babysitter, may have gone to library, may have talked to Tammi, then talked to Jan from Tn.

    12/24 - EJ seen with hispanic man
    12/24 - EJ posts on MS, "excited with 'new' life"

    12/25 - EJ again seen with hispanic man and a mid - 30's couple

    12/26 - last time Gabriel seen

    12/27 - EJ text LM
    12/27 - EJ talks to TS
    12/27 - EJ leaves San Antonio

    I'm really excited with this new development!

    JMHO
    fran

    http://www.foxsanantonio.com/newsro...tml?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
     
  17. kissdegirl

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    He meant this week, Fran.

    I hope this is true...I really really do. It would explain why LE has not searched the landfill. They have it cordoned off, so if they need to search it for any more evidence, they could do that, IMO.
     
  18. January.

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    I have thought all along that Gabriel was adopted out through and underground illegal adoption, or that he is being hid somewhere for the Smiths. I think the first is the more realistic option though. But this also makes me scared as to what kind of people would want a baby through an illegal/underground adoption (or sale for all we know) rather than going through a legit adoption. Maybe they don't want to wait the years it can take, but it still makes me worry what kind of people baby Gabriel is with.

    Just to add, I think the Smiths either set this up or at least led EJ there. I'm not letting them off the hook even though this is most likely a different mystery couple. Thing is, what would be in it for them if the baby they wanted so bad was adopted to a different couple that was set up by them? That's the question I just can't figure out.
     
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    I agree that the Smiths wouldn't go to all this trouble to get a baby for another couple. I think the Smiths probably set it up for EJ to go into hiding and then from there EJ went on her own.
     
  20. kissdegirl

    kissdegirl New Member

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    BBM.
    Don't hate me, but I think they cared about EJ and Gabriel. I think they believed whatever they were told about LM being abusive or whatever. They didn't know at that point that she was lying. Once EJ was in SA and they all realized it wasn't going to happen for them, they either hooked her up with someone, or they came and got Gabriel and took him somewhere themselves...all the time trying to protect EJ and letting her flee. EJ probably ticked somebody off in the process, and they turned her in. JMO.
     
  21. panthera

    panthera Retired WS Staff

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    Or it could be this other couple is holding Gabriel for them (the Smiths). They may not have realized initially what a big case this would become, or especially how Logan would react and contact LE, so it all snowballed on them. MOO
     

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