Did Israel post comments online?

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  1. mjk2015

    mjk2015 Former Member

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    thank you for that. the information must have been added after i found her a year ago because i distinctly remember there being no information about her. it's interesting that she was still in alaska after being reported missing. i think she's still a possible victim, considering that an alaskan serial killer was known to encounter prostitutes.

    edit: duh, i just checked the bottom of the page to see if they dated the information. they did. the details of disappearance was added may 7, 2016 (over 4 months after i found her and identified her as a possible victim).

    ty for the link!
     


  2. BD1989

    BD1989 Member

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    Np, mjk2015. Its nice to know I'm not the only one interested in trying to unravel this mystery.
     
  3. seasons of wither

    seasons of wither New Member

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    I am new at this, so please forgive me if I post too much, but here is a link for a VERY LIKELY post by Keyes, by "isreal", scroll all the way to the bottom (I hope I am not posting the entire thing)
    http://aboutserialkillers.blogspot.com/2012/12/israel-keyes-alaska-serial-killer.html

    At the very bottom, under comments, someone mentioned him posting and captured this from "Isreal" (name spelled different),
     
  4. seasons of wither

    seasons of wither New Member

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    Yes, there is one here at Webleuths, not sure which thread. There is another here:
    http://aboutserialkillers.blogspot.com/2012/12/israel-keyes-alaska-serial-killer.html

    Scroll all the way to the bottom of article. Someone captured it and posted it.
     
  5. mjk2015

    mjk2015 Former Member

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    if that comment is his then he's talking about himself since he lived a double life, and the people who knew him didn't know him at all. in saying "you are only hurting yourselves" he would seem to be expressing pain over the fact that the people who knew him really didn't. it must have hurt him to have been keeping that secret. maybe he wanted people to know but was tortured over it (holding opposite states concurrently; wanting them to know and not wanting them to know).

    i'd like to know what year that comment was made and if the FB page is accessible.
     
  6. seasons of wither

    seasons of wither New Member

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    I believe he was posting right before he was arrested. He left Alaska on 03/01/12 and headed to Vegas, where he rented a car and withdrew money from AZ, NM, and finally arrested in TX. I don't know if you able to listen to all the interviews on ADN, but they were quite telling. He said he "got a kick" out of reading about the cases and posted stuff on various sites. I have scoured the internet for his posts, but I only became interested in this case last year, and most have been deleted.

    I will dig out that WS post when I can find the time. It's very similar to the one I linked to and he also went by the name "Isreal".

    Would love to see the FBI's profile on him and what they think and would love to access to all of the interviews. The links on ADN are gone, I was thinking of emailing them, too, someone else did recently (from WS). There were much more revealing, IMO, to his "inner workings". I know ADN got them by filing a FOIA request.
     
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  7. seasons of wither

    seasons of wither New Member

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    Also, I agree, he could have been almost talking about himself. In some kind of crazy way, he must have felt so lonely, I can't imagine carrying that kind of a secret and NO one knowing anything about your "real" self, except your victims. They are the only ones who saw him for who he really was. In that moment, that must have been some kind of intimacy for him. I have read that serial killers experience intimacy with their victims, it feeds some deep seated need, especially necrophiles, and it appears, he might have been one, at least by some reports. Please don't get me wrong, I am not in any way, shape, or form, saying I understand the motivation or sympathize with it, but that is what is so perplexing, the "why" of it all.
     
  8. mjk2015

    mjk2015 Former Member

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    do you think the FBI are trained to be suspicious of people who take an interest in a serial killer? ADN could file a freedom of information act request because they're an established / authorized entity but if an unassociated independent citizen did it, they'd probably be suspicious. i need clearance, i need a hat. i'm going to file an FOIA to obtain his computer so i can do my work.

    i know, i know. dream on.

    i'm unfortunately very familiar with that bony fingered demon and i know for a fact i could read his activity with my eyes closed. i want the computer!
     
  9. Tulessa

    Tulessa Well-Known Member

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  10. BD1989

    BD1989 Member

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    I was wondering the same thing in regards to them being suspicious about a private citizen researching a serial killer. But screw it, I'm going to file a FOIA tonight, I really hope they don't give me a hard time but based on my limited knowledge of FOIA they're really not even allowed to ask why you want it.
     
  11. seasons of wither

    seasons of wither New Member

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    Wow BD1989, that's awesome! I think it's natural to be fascinated by these cases, that's why shows like Criminal Minds are so popular. I think it's because we all want to know the "why"? I mean, the people at the FBI were probably fascinated, too, that's may be why they went into the field.
     
  12. seasons of wither

    seasons of wither New Member

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    Mjk,

    Good work. Also, in one of the audio clips, Keyes talked about how he was thinking of burning churches. He stated that he thought of taking someone to a church and then he wanted to burn it. He stated that he had "a lot of problems with religion" and added that he thought it would be a way to get more attention for his crimes, though he didn't use those words (can't remember the exact words).

    As I was reviewing the Pacific NW thread this evening, I found that Bessie how posted info on sheila kathleen mcbroom sometime ago. Thought I would bring it over here:

    Sheila McBroom, 40, Anchorage, 27 Oct 2008

    This might be a long shot, but since I don't see a definite location for IK on October 27, 2008, I'm going to add it to the thread.

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74922"]AK AK - Sheila McBroom, 40, Anchorage, 27 Oct 2008 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]



    Woman's disappearance puzzles friends
    Published: November 11, 2008

    By JAMES HALPIN
    jhalpin@adn.com
    Along the Seward Highway, between the towering cliffs of exposed rock and the fast-icing waters of Turnagain Arm, an abandoned pickup found last month looked to be a promising lead in the search for a woman who vanished on her way to work.
    But inside the green 1996 GMC, found some six miles below McHugh Creek on Oct. 31, the belongings of Sheila Kathleen McBroom, 40, remained untouched. There were no signs of foul play, nothing wrong with the car suggesting mechanical malfunction, no suicide note



    McBroom made a blog post on October 26. A post on her blog made by her daughter on Oct 29 says McBroom didn't make it to work on "Monday", which would've been October 27. The article above is partially incorrect. Her truck was found on Oct 31, but the policeman stopped her on Oct 27.

    http://sogratefultobemormon.wordpres...-mom/#comments

    Also read post here dated October 31, 2008, "Update on Kathleen".


    http://www.themorganfollies.blogspot...07:15:00-06:00
    Last edited by bessie; 09-09-2013 at 12:13 AM.
     
  13. mjk2015

    mjk2015 Former Member

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    good luck with your request, i hope it gets things moving in a good direction. :)
     
  14. mjk2015

    mjk2015 Former Member

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    i wailed for kathleen. i read her entire blog and pained heavily for days weighing up the options: suicide, spontaneous death or victim of a serial killer. each had probability and some substance and weight but no matter what i did, it kept coming back to keyes and would rest there. it was so conclusive to me, as conclusive as could be, that i moved forward with submitting a report to the FBI. i still pain over the lack of acknowledgment and response from them. it kills me. they asked for the public's help. the public are helping. the FBI are not doing their part, and they leave people hanging on hooks. it's not right.
     
  15. seasons of wither

    seasons of wither New Member

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    I never really bought into the "random" theory. I know that's what the FBI said, but I am just not convinced. I also believe he had a victim preference.

    "If you're set up in the right spot...you know...using binoculars...you can see who's in the car, you know, like shopping".

    I do believe he frequented remote areas, and kind of had to take what he could get, just as he said. But that was due to hiding his crimes, not because he had no preference.

    That's all just my own opinion. Of course, we don't have access to all the info the FBI does.
     
  16. mjk2015

    mjk2015 Former Member

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    i think it was two-fold; originally, victims would be very randomly selected. but with the arrival and expansion of the internet i think he graduated to victim selection (as would be the case with kathleen, if she was truly one of his victims). i think he would have crossed paths with her in their town but then located her online presence. i strongly believe he invested a lot of time in her (over a year). she would have been very challenging; domestic life, career, community life at her church. i think she would have been irresistible for him, because of religion.
     
  17. seasons of wither

    seasons of wither New Member

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    Here's the one from WS:



    • 08-20-2013, 10:29 PM
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      "But Keyes' relationship with the media was odd, said Bell. Before his arrest he would comment under news stories about the kidnapping of Samantha Koenig, and the murders of Bill and Loraine Currire, a Vermont couple that he admitted to slaying.

      “He enjoyed seeing the media reports on all the crimes he did, and knowing he did it, and nobody else knew he did,” said Bell.

      On March 3, 2012 Keyes left the following comment under a KTVA story: “I hate to say this, at this point there is no hope. And I would also like to point out innocent until proven guilty. Stupid people like to blame others because he sounds like a prime suspect without any proof that they actually did it. And she wasn’t so innocent either, the dumb b**** played with others emotions, and with this guy, and she has a boyfriend, so you have to wonder about the consequences. I really wish she is found, learned lessons.”
      "

      http://www.ktva.com/home/top-stories....html?strypg=1







     
  18. Barbie619

    Barbie619 Active Member

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    I really don't know how the tips are handled by the FBI, but I can't imagine they wouldn't follow up on that information. They might not necessarily reach out to the person giving the information, especially if it was very detailed. It is frustrating/annoying I imagine when they don't want to play with you. But I think they are doing their job's behind the scene's.
     
  19. WyomingSkyAngel

    WyomingSkyAngel Rocky Mountain Fresh

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    I'm going to catch up on this thread on my day off. From my past interactions with people with massive mental disorder...the idea of Keyes lurking on the Internet to bask in his yet-to-be revealed infamy makes perfect sense.
     
  20. badboi2323

    badboi2323 New Member

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    IK admitted in one of his confessions that he started using library computers to check on his storys, but eventually he got sloppy and was getting drunk and commenting on stories from his home computer. There's posts out there by him if our gov hasn't found and erased them. With that being said, IK was a pretty sophisticated serial killer up until the very end; I doubt any such posts of his we're juicy enough to call attention to himself, and his screen name probably wouldn't have any discernible connection to him.
     

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