Did KC Think She Could Get Away With It?? POLL

[SoSueMe]

Exactally. Bringing on the check fraud charges are baffleing. Unless you believe (like I do) that KC WANTED to be caught and punished. Otherwise, she would have had an "out". A back up plan to dissappear. While she was a "good" liar, she's not the best. She failed to come up with believable lies for much of this case's circumstances....

I have often entertained the idea that KC knew she would be caught eventually (different from wanting to be caught). Afterall, she had to make sure CA knew she (KC) was punishing her and taking the one thing she truly loved away from her. Perhaps that is why she went on the spending spree with AH's money (signing her own name to at least one of the checks) and partying it up until she was caught. She had already abandoned her car with the decomposing body smell and couldn't expect that TonE would haul her around forever. She even posted taunting messages to CA about Caylee on MySpace.

When CA was calling LE, she was telling LA that perhaps it should have been done a long time ago (she stole, she was not a good mother), I think maybe she was ready to give it up. Then CA comes in and KC's back goes up against the wall and she can't tell CA the truth for fear of her own life (at that 10 minute time in her life). She then starts making up the story about the kidnapping and lets it roll with the punches.

To sum this up, I kind of think she knew she would get caught, but when it actually happened, she wasn't prepared for the finality of it (her freedom). Then once JB got ahold of her (surprise) she sticks with her story of kidnapping.

This is not a steadfast opinion, I have just often thought it could be a possibility.

Sue

 

[GatorFL]

Casey knew she would be caught, no doubt. All her lies were intended to buy her days of freedom. No way did she think she was going to walk scot free.

 

[Reality Orlando]

Remember KC said to CA, "one more day"? I think KC was planning a trip to California, and was never coming back.

I agree...I think she wanted that one more day to skip town. My guess is since she reestablished contact with the service guy in CA, that was her contingency plan and all the negative hint dropping to friends about her family was a cover to deny them access to Caylee and no one would know she was missing. JMO.

 

[GatorFL]

I have often entertained the idea that KC knew she would be caught eventually (different from wanting to be caught). Afterall, she had to make sure CA knew she (KC) was punishing her and taking the one thing she truly loved away from her. Perhaps that is why she went on the spending spree with AH's money (signing her own name to at least one of the checks) and partying it up until she was caught. She had already abandoned her car with the decomposing body smell and couldn't expect that TonE would haul her around forever. She even posted taunting messages to CA about Caylee on MySpace.

When CA was calling LE, she was telling LA that perhaps it should have been done a long time ago (she stole, she was not a good mother), I think maybe she was ready to give it up. Then CA comes in and KC's back goes up against the wall and she can't tell CA the truth for fear of her own life (at that 10 minute time in her life). She then starts making up the story about the kidnapping and lets it roll with the punches.

To sum this up, I kind of think she knew she would get caught, but when it actually happened, she wasn't prepared for the finality of it (her freedom). Then once JB got ahold of her (surprise) she sticks with her story of kidnapping.

This is not a steadfast opinion, I have just often thought it could be a possibility.

Sue

Good post Sue. This is my thought as well. She knew she would be caught and she did whatever she could to buy time.

 

[Dev]

Probably, and since the '06 abductor was never named, that was one bit she needed to make up herself.
She would look even worse if she couldnt name the person babysitting her child.
The first name had to be a version of zanny since that is what she had been saying the nannys name was, the 'F' bit, who knows....and the surname is very common.
In fact someone with that same last name was quoted regarding the 06 case.
Its probably nothing- but thats why I wanted to find the missing child sites she visited, that were apparently over a year before caylee went 'missing'.
I really dont know....my head hurts trying to think like KC.

I liked your theory as you described it in your earlier post. But when you said this (the part I put in bold), I really sat up and took notice! That's very interesting. I never knew about that 2006 Florida case and I would love to read up on it.

I do think that KC may have paid attention to the many stories of childless women taking people's babies "because they wanted a child of their own". Notice that she described her fantasy nanny as having no children of her own.

As for the element of the fantasy kidnapper being Spanish-speaking, that plays into the general fear right now of various gangs of Spanish-speaking youth. KC was, IMO, getting kind of a tutorial in the gang culture from her following of hip-hop, which she got into through TL's promotion activities. There is at least one partying photo of her where she is "throwing a gang sign". I am not saying that her associates were actually involved with real gangs--I think TL and his employers were just making a buck off the "gang" stuff, as so many music companies do. As always, youngish people will feel cool and hip in following such things, even if they themselves live comfy suburban lives and don't really participate.

Also, KC chose to make her fantasy kidnapper part "Puerto Rican". KC had just finished a relationship with RM, who is of Puerto Rican heritage, and she was involved with TL, who came from NY where there are many of that heritage. So she probably felt that she knew a little something of their culture, and that would make her "kidnapper" more believable.

 

[IRule254]

I think that Casey valued Caylee so little that it was inconceivable to her that anyone else would raise a ruckus about her disappearance. She expected others to buy her lame stories, and she fully intended to move on in her life as though Caylee Marie Anthony never existed.

:aktion033:

 

[sedna99]

IMHO, KC STILL believes she will get away with this.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. No matter how suicidal it would be, or how hard her defense team tries to talk her out of it, I can see her insisting on getting on the stand.

In Caseyworld, if she could just spin her story to the jury herself, they would believe her. She has talked (lied) her way out of every bad situation her whole life. Why not in the courtroom.

Also think she believes she could easily handle a cross examination. She has had many months in jail to fine tune her story. After all she is much smarter than everyone else. Just ask her.

If this does happen, it will be a "crash and burn" very quickly.

 

[songline]

I did not vote, I do not think Casey thought ahead. What may happen if she does not show up with Caylee?
I think she she has fooled her immidiate family for so long that she knew how to do that very well. she is still doing it and they believe her.
I guess they have hope against hope.

 

[miabellamoure]

If it hadn't been for the fact of Caylee's decomposing body being confirmed to have been in KC's car trunk...then, it's conceivable that she might have been able to get away with her tall tales.

Not to mention, how many thousands of unsolved missing children cases that are out there...makes ya wonder if a good chunk of them were never really kidnapped but, actually the victim of a parents rage that went deadly.

 

[carrie]

Also, KC chose to make her fantasy kidnapper part "Puerto Rican". KC had just finished a relationship with RM, who is of Puerto Rican heritage, and she was involved with TL, who came from NY where there are many of that heritage. So she probably felt that she knew a little something of their culture, and that would make her "kidnapper" more believable.[/

Also, IIRC, one of KC's friends said that CA did not care for hispanic people. Maybe she thought her mother would find it easier to believe some one who was Puerta Rican was the "villain." Just throwing it out there. I don't think she did much planning at all, as she thought she would only have her immediate family to deal with, and that she could make them believe her BS.

 

[LinasK]

I liked your theory as you described it in your earlier post. But when you said this (the part I put in bold), I really sat up and took notice! That's very interesting. I never knew about that 2006 Florida case and I would love to read up on it.

I do think that KC may have paid attention to the many stories of childless women taking people's babies "because they wanted a child of their own". Notice that she described her fantasy nanny as having no children of her own.

As for the element of the fantasy kidnapper being Spanish-speaking, that plays into the general fear right now of various gangs of Spanish-speaking youth. KC was, IMO, getting kind of a tutorial in the gang culture from her following of hip-hop, which she got into through TL's promotion activities. There is at least one partying photo of her where she is "throwing a gang sign". I am not saying that her associates were actually involved with real gangs--I think TL and his employers were just making a buck off the "gang" stuff, as so many music companies do. As always, youngish people will feel cool and hip in following such things, even if they themselves live comfy suburban lives and don't really participate.

Also, KC chose to make her fantasy kidnapper part "Puerto Rican". KC had just finished a relationship with RM, who is of Puerto Rican heritage, and she was involved with TL, who came from NY where there are many of that heritage. So she probably felt that she knew a little something of their culture, and that would make her "kidnapper" more believable.

If I'm not mistaken:waitasec:, TL is Italian, isn't he??? His name sure sounded it to me...

 

[PattyCake]

she thoroughly thought that she would get away with it, no doubt for a second. I believe that what the A's are feeding her even now, through JB I assume... is still the belief that 'somehow, someway, we'll get you out KC..."

It sickens me that the A's - EVERYONE OF THEM - could care less about the little 2 year old baby that died probably quite violently and they just stick their heads in the sand and continue to PRETEND their family is still PERFECT.

 

[tfrohning]

Probably, and since the '06 abductor was never named, that was one bit she needed to make up herself.
She would look even worse if she couldnt name the person babysitting her child.
The first name had to be a version of zanny since that is what she had been saying the nannys name was, the 'F' bit, who knows....and the surname is very common.
In fact someone with that same last name was quoted regarding the 06 case.
Its probably nothing- but thats why I wanted to find the missing child sites she visited, that were apparently over a year before caylee went 'missing'.
I really dont know....my head hurts trying to think like KC.

the weird thing ZFG how did she get this name and how was it ZFG was at sawgrass??????? I really like to hear the real story. and if there was ZFG If JB and family really beleive this story they could hire artist to draw picture of this so call nanny so no other childern can be harm.

 

[butwhatif?]

the weird thing ZFG how did she get this name and how was it ZFG was at sawgrass??????? I really like to hear the real story. and if there was ZFG If JB and family really beleive this story they could hire artist to draw picture of this so call nanny so no other childern can be harm.

Well thats another interesting thing about the 06 case. The sketch that the mom helped to create was said to be so vague and general that the pic could be just about anyone. I would have loved to see the sketch that KC put together of ZFG to see if it was similar.
The case was 'baby brian'.
http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US
Theres a short thread on baby brian somewhere on this board too, but if you google it, you'll come across all the other info i have mentioned.

 

[NancyT]

It appears to me that no one ever really confronted Casey, or held her accountable for all her lies, deception, stealing, etc.. that it never dawned on her that others wouldn't just accept all she had to say as the gospel. This is the girl who led LE back the corridors of Universal Studios. She fully expected to be taken at face value, IMO.

I also think she had plans of getting out of Dodge if things didn't go her way though. I wonder if searching out those escort sites wasn't a way for Casey to turn a quick dime if she had to run ASAP. We also know she may have headed to CA to see her military friend. Asking Cindy for 1 more day, IMO, was when she expected to take that jump.

 

[cloud]

I think she never even considered that her lies would be questioned. if she had, she might have put more effort into making them half believable.

What I don't understand is how she could possibly have believed that everyone would ignore the fact that a child was missing and just go on their merry way, like she did. Everyone lies, everyone dies - get over it.

MO

 

[Clock's Tickin]

I voted "victim". I think She had every intention of playing the victim all the way through. Had she not been arrested, she would have "found" Caylee on her birthday (the day she was supposed to be returned) and dramatized the agony of a mother whose child had been stolen and murdered. She'd have then blamed her family for involving the police and the media, resulting in the "kidnapper" killing her baby. She even so much as told her parents in the jailhouse visit how much of a victim she was.

 

[concentric]

It appears to me that no one ever really confronted Casey, or held her accountable for all her lies, deception, stealing, etc.. that it never dawned on her that others wouldn't just accept all she had to say as the gospel. This is the girl who led LE back the corridors of Universal Studios. She fully expected to be taken at face value, IMO.

I also think she had plans of getting out of Dodge if things didn't go her way though. I wonder if searching out those escort sites wasn't a way for Casey to turn a quick dime if she had to run ASAP. We also know she may have headed to CA to see her military friend. Asking Cindy for 1 more day, IMO, was when she expected to take that jump.

ITA. Then the jump could have been Mexico to ? Or, if she would have gotten to Puerto Rico?

 

[concentric]

She has an overinflated ego and considers anyone with an opinion outside of her control to be "joe blow on the street."

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

When I look at George & Cindy, I feel Casey did not have much more of a chance than Caylee did. She certainly thought she'd get away with it, because she was raised by G & C. G likes to make an easy buck through scams and/or gambling (not a good example), and C, though she at least worked, is very obviously a pathological liar. It seems they raised and encouraged Casey to lie, and it never even occurred to her that police would not believe her. G comes right out and says he was suspicious a nanny never existed, yet doesn't care about Caylee enough to inquire further? He didn't even care or challenge her about lying about how her own daughter was being cared for.

The fact she thought she would get away with it, I think it says a lot about how she was raised, and it wasn't good.