Did the jury get it wrong, or...

Discussion in 'Caylee Anthony 2 years old' started by wvjules, Jul 5, 2011.

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Did the jury get it wrong?

Poll closed Aug 4, 2011.
  1. The jury got it wrong

    1,051 vote(s)
    81.9%
  2. The state didn't prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt

    179 vote(s)
    14.0%
  3. The Defense provided reasonable doubt and the jury got it right

    55 vote(s)
    4.3%
  4. Other

    31 vote(s)
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  1. thistle

    thistle Active Member

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    "I just let a killer free, I'm going to Disneyland"- what a surreal world we live in...
     


  2. magic-cat

    magic-cat Mother to Many

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    Yeah, solitary confinement. Perfect. Majority rules.
     
  3. Kelroy

    Kelroy New Member

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    Well, but that wasn't in evidence. I don't think that guy testified, right? And I think some of the jurors said they dismissed the molestation anyway.

    But they did, imo, prove that something not-so-innocent caused her to be dead and dumped in a swamp. And that, even if it were an accident, her mother had the legal and ethical responsibility to seek help and report it. How is that not culpable negligence, i.e., manslaughter?

    Yeah. I'm so confused about why the jurors dismissed the manslaughter charges. I totally agree that the first-degree murder charge wasn't airtight. But it seems the jurors forgot that even if it were an accident, Casey was culpable for not seeking help and not reporting it; and even if it were an accident, it couldn't have been an innocent one because of all the other evidence: the being dumped in a swamp, the lying about her whereabouts for a month, the three years of lying after she was found.

    From Jennifer Ford's statements, it seems that the jurors were considering the penalty during the guilt phase, which I thought they were not supposed to do. And, anyway, the manslaughter charge did not carry the death penalty. Were they confused about that? Could the state have better emphasized that the accident scenario still indicated Casey's criminal culpability? And that there was more evidence of wrongdoing than of an accidental death?
     
  4. kelian36

    kelian36 Former Member

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    That's the picture I'm getting---dinners, fireworks, sports nights, all intermingled with talk about the case. I think they've discussed the case from the beginning. 10 hours of deliberations = no justice for Caylee.
     
  5. cuppy199

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  6. magic-cat

    magic-cat Mother to Many

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    Add to this:

    No one knows how this child died.
    No one knows how this child died.
    No one knows how this child died.
     
  7. Nefriahaia

    Nefriahaia Inactive

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    :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
     
  8. Ninsi

    Ninsi New Member

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    Nikki 01 New Member

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    Someone probably used a script to rig the voting. That is way out of line with public sentiment. Definitely bogus.
     
  10. EnquiringMind

    EnquiringMind New Member

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    I believe you are correct. I did some sleuthing too and this is what I came up with. From the looks of things- I can hardly believe this man is so needy as to really require "five figures" to discuss what he did in service to the tax payers and the justice system. What an entrepreneur. He was the first one to let it be known that he could be had for a price!


    I tried to quote the entry which I will now cut and paste below...



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    is this brian?
    http://www.finnmarketing.com/bberling.html

    please delete if not..
     
  11. Ninsi

    Ninsi New Member

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    This is a poem. I wish I could post it on my facebook page---with credit to you, of course. Imagine reading it with no knowledge whatsoever of this case. It says it all.
     
  12. TotallyObsessed

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    I think you are more than right. There is no way a group of 12 people could have made their way through discussing and coming to a conclusion ON THE JURY INSTRUCTIONS ALONE in 11 hours. No way. Very complicated to sit down and say...ok can we get to this...can we get to this..
    It is my personal opinion they took the packet of instructions and started from the top down...instead the lesser charges and saying could it go up to the next charge. I believe they looked at the first Capital Murder charge and said "NO" and the rest of the lessers didn't even come into play with them.:banghead:
     
  13. Tiki

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    ITA!!
    the "alternate" who started talking keep slipping up and saying "we" then correcting himself to "I". How did he know what anyone else was thinking?
    They talked about it as soon as they were sequestered.
    AND they did not follow the judge's instructions and didn't ask for clarification.

    The wanted to go home, but if even one of them listened to the judge, the could have found her guilty of one of the lesser charges and still gone home.

    Juror #3 is making it clear they didn't even try. So very, very sad.
    JMO

    PS: I don't get how they are allowed to fall asleep during the trial...

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  14. costalpilot

    costalpilot Active Member

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    disagree...i don't think 12 responsible people could have been confused by the mish-mash bs that was spewed by the dt.

    their argument was so transparently ridiculous it bordered on farce.

    something else was going on

    imo.
     
  15. SarahEcho

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    The jurors had time to meet and talk after the jury was dismissed.
     
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    Actually, they were 6-6 on the manslaughter charge and spent quite a bit of time after that discussing it.
     
  17. SarahEcho

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    The first vote that was taken between the jurors was on the highest offense was 10-2 against first-degree murder.

    “We didn’t know how she died, we didn’t know when she died,” said Juror No. 2, who was one of the 10. “Technically, we didn’t even know where she died.

    “You couldn’t say who did it. To me, that’s why it was aggravated manslaughter of a child.”

    The next vote was on just that charge, aggravated manslaughter of a child. The vote was 6-6 for manslaughter. The two sides hardened. They started talking over one another. The jury foreman calmed them all down.

    “The six that voted guilty said it didn’t matter at what point in time she came home and found out her daughter was missing,” he said. “She had to report it in some way, shape or form, and that’s where the negligence came in.”

    But some jurors, he said, had decided not to convict Casey Anthony of any charge in the girl’s death. By lunch Tuesday, the guilty side started to lose votes.

    Juror No. 2 was the last holdout. Deliberations lasted for 11 hours over two days. They filed into court at 2:15 p.m. Tuesday to hand over their verdict.

    http://www.imperfectparent.com/topi...ony-murder-trial-anonymously-tells-his-story/
     
  18. kimmera

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    I thought it was awesome when JA brought this up in the CS...I had not connected those particular dots before, but when he brought it up it definitely gave further credence to premeditation. Not that it made any difference, obviously, but still a good argument. :twocents:
     
  19. dvdman

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    I still can't figure for the life of me how 6 jurors could go from "MANSLAUGHTER" charge to "NOTHING" in less then 6 hours. What in the heck could change anyone's mind on such a serious charge to a "GET OUT OF JAIL" verdict........amazing. It's not like they asked to look at any EVIDENCE.

     
  20. magic-cat

    magic-cat Mother to Many

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    30 mnutes? lol
    That would be quite a bit to a group who believe you can get to ANY verdict on a capital murder case involving the death of a child in 11 hours, right?:crazy:
     
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