Did the State prove their case? LIST ONLY

Discussion in 'Nancy Cooper' started by JBean, May 3, 2011.

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Did the State prove its case against Bradley Cooper?

Poll closed Jun 2, 2011.
  1. BC is guilty and the State proved their case

    40 vote(s)
    40.4%
  2. BC is guilty but the State did NOT prove their case

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    30.3%
  3. BC is innocent but the State will prevail

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. BC is innocent and the State did not prove otherwise.

    29 vote(s)
    29.3%
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  1. JBean

    JBean Retired WS Administrator

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    This thread will be open after closing arguments. Posting early so peeps can think about their answer before voting and commenting.

    This is not a debate thread but a vote and leave a comment thread.
    If there are other options you would like to see, please let us know before the thread is opened.
     
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  3. ncsu95

    ncsu95 New Member

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    I voted guilty but not proven.
     
  4. calgary123

    calgary123 New Member

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    I think he is guilty and the state proved it, despite themselves.
     
  5. less0305

    less0305 The face is familiar, but I can't quite remember m

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    Guilty - they provided proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
     
  6. momof7

    momof7 New Member

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    The State did not prove their case beyong a reasonable doubt. Still wonder about a hung jury though.

    Kelly
     
  7. dallasnc

    dallasnc New Member

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    I voted guilty but not proven but I think he will be found guilty.
     
  8. Madeleine74

    Madeleine74 Of course it's my opinion, who else's would it be?

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    GUILTY!

    Google search has no innocent explanation and was not planted or tampered with.
     
  9. RPD

    RPD Former Member

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    The state proved to me, CPD, nor anyone else tampered with the computer.
    Guilty
     
  10. huck22

    huck22 New Member

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    Probably guilty, but if I was a member of the jury, it would easily be NG. LE and the prosecution butchered what could have been an open-and-shut case.
     
  11. Sailor Bug

    Sailor Bug New Member

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    :scale:The State did prove their case.
    premeditation

    :praying: JUSTICE for Nancy :leaf2:

    Guilty of 1st degree murder :behindbar
     
  12. fran

    fran Former Member

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    I came into this trial believing BC guilty. But, as the trial progressed, I wasn't sure the State had given enough circumstantial evidence. I really was undecided until today.

    I wasn't sure I could say this at the end, I do feel the State proved their case. Whether he'll be found guilty, it's anyone's guess.

    I have seen a LOT of criticism of the pros, but I thought they did just fine. Sometimes the pros spoke painfully slow, but I guess that's just how he is. It's what's in the words that count. I also believe his closing presentation was factual and powerful. Just because some people would have said MORE or whatever, didn't mean his was wrong. Just not the same approach.

    JMHO
    fran
     
  13. LaLaw2000

    LaLaw2000 Louisiana

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    I voted guilty, and I think the jury will have a verdict sometime tomorrow. I would think the map search of Fielding Drive would be a hard thing for any jury to overlook.
     
  14. oenophile

    oenophile New Member

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    I came into this trial without an opinion as to his innocence or guilt. Walking out of it with 99.9% certainty of his innocence. All of the physical evidence demonstrated that he was innocent. Add to that Occam's Razor, and there is no way this should have ever gone to trial.
     
  15. bloghooligan

    bloghooligan New Member

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    I live nearby and came here believing BC was guilty based on news reports. I still believe he is 'probably' guilty but do not believe the state has proven their case.

    That said, we saw a different trial than the jury did in this case so I'm not sure where they jury will land. I'm guessing they'll hang.

    If BC is found guilty I believe he stands a pretty good chance of winning a new trial.
     
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    cityslick New Member

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    Without looking at any more detail, I voted guilty but did not prove. I would of felt better about the states case if they were better at closing to tie everything together. I don't think they did.
     
  17. CrimeAddict

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    They proved his guilt, by the skin of their teeth.
     
  18. unc70

    unc70 New Member

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    Before the trial, I had no opinion G or NG in this case beyond knowing that the husband or BF is the murderer more often than any other single category (e.g. friend, stranger, other family members), but far less often than all other categories.

    Since I am still on the fence, my vote was Not Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and therefore still Presumed Innocent. Somewhat frustrated that the poll did not allow for this option.

    This case, by itself, raises many issues that regularly threaten our legal and Constitution rights. At its core is the right to a fair trial, defendants rights including Brady, concept of real evidence in a virtual world, and how woefully equipped are our public institutions, our judges, attorneys, our law enforcement, members of the press, elected officials, and ordinary citizens.

    Consider how difficult it already is to evaluate electronic evidence in forensic investigations -- whether provable beyond a reasonable doubt or not. Step back from the Cooper trial, look at the problems from a wider view, and use your common sense. Can you tell the difference between a valid piece of electronic evidence from one that is faked, modified, planted, doctored, or otherwise not what it claims to be? Could a jury if you were on trial?

    One can suddenly face huge problems with little more than a Shockwave Flash (SWF) delivered to your browser via an email, an ad hosted by a compromised site, or with the SWF attack code embedded in a PDF file embeded in an Excel workbook embedded in a Word document. And on and on.

    For this example, suppose you are browsing your favorite real crime site, searching other sites to look at related topics, and one of these sites displays images hosted by a hacked site. That SWF is really a program that executes unseen within your browser session, able to "browse" the web exactly as if done by you but without displaying anything.

    Suppose this program downloaded kiddie porn, maybe found and used your credit card info to sign you up for special services, and even used the laptop camera to take the picture of you in your underwear propped up in bed. (Don't worry, your security settings will be set back just like they were.)

    If we were a juror, would we have any doubt of the defendant's guilt?

    If we were the defendant, could any of us prove that we were innocent?
     
  19. TigressPen

    TigressPen New Member

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    I think they proved their case completely.The google map isn't the only thing that shows Brad did it to me.
     
  20. Bertha21

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    I voted guilty but no proof.

    The post from unc70 pretty much sums it up for me.
     
  21. Salem

    Salem Former Member

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    It appears this case will be a close call. Interesting.

    Salem
     
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