Exactly. It really doesn't matter the reason Max couldn't breathe, what matters is that he needed immediate CPR to keep his blood circulating to the brain and didn't receive it.
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Exactly. It really doesn't matter the reason Max couldn't breathe, what matters is that he needed immediate CPR to keep his blood circulating to the brain and didn't receive it.
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The scooter is what made me think there was a staging.
Yes, plus she couldn't know about the spinal cord injury so she should have been doing CPR from the get-go and not stopped until help arrived. AS gave RS CPR for a long time (and was witnessed doing it by officers and firefighters on the scene) and only stopped when they told him to. Pity a small child wasn't given the same privilege.
I'm starting to agree with you. Do we know where RN's sister lives? I'm wondering if she was whisked out of town the next morning so that LE couldn't ask her questions.
JMO
AS gave RN CPR for a long time and was witnessed doing it? Where did you get this information? How did he give her CPR? Her hands were bound behind her back, she couldn't even be laid flat on her back. She was also already in rigor.
And never mind that giving her CPR was useless, since she was already dead for hours.
The AR sure does open up a lot of questions but then, maybe that is what the ME intended.
JMO
ME don't write their reports so people can come up with a lot of questions.
The point is that no CPR was being given to Max when the Officer arrived on scene. Deprivation of oxygen to his brain cost the child his life, according to the AR.
JMO
I've been reading past threads to try to find that out. Seems to me they'd want to question a witness.
It's in the AR. And he didn't know it was useless, just like RZ didn't know it was useless to give little Max the same privilege.
For all we know, he may have recovered from that spinal cord injury. The ME noted it was bruised so I don't agree with the blogger who opines it wasn't fixable. The ME didn't say that, did he?
JMO
CPR wasn't useless on Max. EMT's did manage to restore a heartbeat. While they were doing that, they would also be pumping oxygen into his lungs.
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I don't know because it was all in technical language.
OK. I'll go back and look I don't believe there is any mention that the spinal injury wasn't fixable.
Interesting that you picked up on that point about CPR being noted in both Autopsy Reports. I didn't, so thanks! Does open up lotsa questions about Max not getting CPR right away.
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Please let's try to keep the thread on topic.
Thanks,
Salem
Please let's try to keep the thread on topic.
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Salem
arielilane
Justice for Liz Barraza
Unfortunately, RZ nor or sister may not have been trained on CPR.
Typically the 911 operator will instruct a person with CPR procedures. Why hasn't the 911 call been released or has it?
RZ allegedly worked in a laser surgery office and assisted during surgery. Wouldn't she have been trained in CPR if she assisted in surgeries?
arielilane
Justice for Liz Barraza
No, you would be amazed.
Interesting, detailed article about MS:
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/09/10/rebecca-zahau-case-max-shacknai-autopsy-review/
"So, what the hell happened to Max? Why did he die? Why couldnt the specialized doctors in the Pediatric Intensive Care Unit save him?
No one could save Max, once he fell. The fatal damage was done before anyone even found him. You see, Max suffered a tragic, somewhat rare injury that was not fixable. Somewhere, during his fall, he sustained a neck hyperextension injury that essentially unplugged his spinal cord from his brainstem. The injury didnt sever the cord or cardiac arrest would have been irreversible. But the hyperextension injury stretched Maxs spinal cord in such an extreme manner, that he essentially almost unplugged his spinal cord from his brainstem. This produced the cardiac arrest at the scene. There is no amount or quality of CPR or advanced care that can overcome a shredded spinal cord at the junction of the brainstem. The fall set in motion the series of events that lead to his death 4 days later. The autopsy report confirms this. And for those who are conspiracy theorists no assassin is that lucky; no way. It was an accident."
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/09/10/rebecca-zahau-case-max-shacknai-autopsy-review/
"So, what the hell happened to Max? Why did he die? Why couldnt the specialized doctors in the Pediatric Intensive Care Unit save him?
No one could save Max, once he fell. The fatal damage was done before anyone even found him. You see, Max suffered a tragic, somewhat rare injury that was not fixable. Somewhere, during his fall, he sustained a neck hyperextension injury that essentially unplugged his spinal cord from his brainstem. The injury didnt sever the cord or cardiac arrest would have been irreversible. But the hyperextension injury stretched Maxs spinal cord in such an extreme manner, that he essentially almost unplugged his spinal cord from his brainstem. This produced the cardiac arrest at the scene. There is no amount or quality of CPR or advanced care that can overcome a shredded spinal cord at the junction of the brainstem. The fall set in motion the series of events that lead to his death 4 days later. The autopsy report confirms this. And for those who are conspiracy theorists no assassin is that lucky; no way. It was an accident."
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