Discussions on Formal Sentencing Hearing - Jodi Arias #3

Discussion in 'Travis Alexander Trial - The State vs. Jodi Arias' started by LambChop, Mar 6, 2015.

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  1. ohreally

    ohreally Active Member

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    I am not just talking about if she was willing to deliberate. Only wanting to talk about the journals and no other evidence is not deliberating to me, but legally I don't know if it qualifies or not. I am also concerned because according to the other jurors she admitted to watching news coverage during the trial. She wanted to bring the movie into deliberations. The jury made JSS aware of this and yet she still allowed her to be part of the jury. At the very least each juror should of been individually questioned by her in front of the defense and prosecution to decide if there was just cause to remove her. JSS did nothing to make sure there was a fair verdict. IMO concerns of an appeal in the future out weighed the fairness to the victims to have a just verdict. It has been proven as fact that Juan was the prosecutor of ex's felony case, and the married one day before his sentencing. I don't think that there would be a successful appeal on that alone.
    The Alexander's fought seven years for justice for Travis' murder. It is not right that JSS allowed this juror to stay on, because of any concerns for a future appeal. An appeal with that with what we know today would have no chance of being successful IMO.
     


  2. deedee21

    deedee21 Well-Known Member

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    Jodi will have no access to social media in Perryville. By the way, the cell waiting for her is six by eight feet. The window faces the West. Hot. Only three showers a week is allowed. Her smirking days are over.
     
  3. Puzzler

    Puzzler New Member

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    Given this def team, I know who I suspect.
     
  4. krkrjx

    krkrjx Comfortably numb

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    Very interesting!

    Maybe a demand for investigation/recourse has to come from the citizens of Arizona rather than the prosecutor's office. I would love to see the 11 jurors take up the cause to get this ball rolling. It would be interesting to see if their efforts would be quashed or taken seriously. I vote for taken seriously--if they are sincere in their quest.

    But then, it's more likely this will go the way a lot of public issues do--with everyone wanting something done but expecting someone else to do it.
     
  5. Sulamith

    Sulamith Well-Known Member

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    Tex Watson (a member of the Manson family) became a born again christian and has a ministry.

    http://www.aboundinglove.org/main/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tex_Watson
     
  6. A_News_Junkie

    A_News_Junkie Retired

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    I have missed everyone too!!! I have tried to keep up somewhat, but my eyes just don't allow me to view a computer much these days but know my heart is always with you guys here!!!

    In reply to Mrs. G and RR0004's kind posts!
     
  7. Endora27

    Endora27 New Member

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    The statement from JW which came so quickly and in conjunction with #17 has got my curiosity. Quite unprofessional on her part (shocker), but more than anything it raises questions of Obstruction of Justice, Bribes and Collusion. To what extent is a DT allowed to go without penalties under our Justice system to engage in such behavior to win a case? What can be done to raise this issue to the higher levels in Arizona and what can be done to remedy the situation? At this point, something MUST be done to insure ONLY LWOP is given!!! We need at this point a good journalist that could quickly investigate and get the facts. And if this is proven it could result in: LWOP, disbarment of the JSS and the DT and charges against #17 as well as MDLR. And my message to Ms. Wilmott: Your behavior is nauseating and a discouragement to any decent Lawyer who wants to earn a decent living and help others in our country. Hoping that you will have great REMORSE for the rest of your life!

    And, one more thing... I am having a hard time catching up... my computer is wicked slow today. What is the Allen Charge? Why couldn't JSS just dismiss #17 for not properly performing her civic duty? Is there no such thing as dismissing a juror during deliberations? I thought that's what alternates are for.
     
  8. ScarlettScarpetta

    ScarlettScarpetta When the going gets tough, drink coffee

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    It won't change anything on this case. I don't think anything will happen to her. I think that most likely they are going to say that it was up to the prosecution to discover. I think this is a done deal.
     
  9. cady

    cady Well-Known Member

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    That is what Grand Juries can do. They are investigative. Petit Juries cannot do that. JMO
     
  10. ScarlettScarpetta

    ScarlettScarpetta When the going gets tough, drink coffee

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    My guess is that this goes deeper than that. To me it looks like they were followed and watched. And if that other carp site participated in that, I hope that they get hammered for it.
     
  11. Irisha

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    They are an UNUSUAL GROUP, aren't they?:crazy:
     
  12. LinTX

    LinTX New Member

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    Quite awhile ago AZLawyer talked about a panel that goes over cases where the choice of life or natural life needs to be made. They then make a recommendation to the judge, but it's not something the judge has to abide by. Don't know if this is mandatory or not, but AZLawyer said it takes, IIRC, several weeks.

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    I think the case is sealed, probably because going by the name I found connected to it, there could be any kind of accusations in it. This person apparently files a lot of suits, but it could be JA is suing her for those interviews Collins did? From Docket Search:
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  13. Sweet Fox

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    BBM ... Good point :0).
     
  14. LinasK

    LinasK Verified insider- Mark Dribin case

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    BBM. Why exactly would it result in disbarment of JSS??:thinking:
     
  15. krkrjx

    krkrjx Comfortably numb

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    Who is Casandra Collins? As pertains to Arias, that is.
     
  16. BritsKate

    BritsKate Past mistakes should teach you to create a wonderf

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    And those who aren't are still ignorant.

    One poster claims autopsy photos are always excluded in every other state because they're too prejudicial. Um, fairly certain the jury was only allowed to see photos as relevant to the crime (like his neck wound) which is fairly standard. There's no way all the photos were admitted into evidence. Another claims everywhere else a mistrial would have been declared by the family walking out during testimony. What? That just makes no kind of sense.

    Another - my favorite - is a looooooooooong post about how Jodi's conviction is the fault of her defense team and expert witnesses. To be fair, they have a point but, and maybe this is just me, how about giving just a wee bit of culpability to the self-confessed killer who lied her pop rocks off for 18 days and showed not one iota of remorse?
     
  17. ScarlettScarpetta

    ScarlettScarpetta When the going gets tough, drink coffee

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    Just because you don't like the way someone defended their client does not mean they did anything illegal. In fact they didn't. JSS did nothing to be disbarred over. It is not a whim but would have to be over something serious.

    While people may not like this defense team, JA is entitled to a rigorous defense. They were trying to save her life and I know it is disgusting what happened but they followed the rules and worked out the disgusting plan and it was legal.

    I have no problem with people not liking people for their tactics, but in the end everyone here had a job to do and did it.
    JSS whether you like it or not made it so JA will not have any good appeals. She bent over backwards to make sure JA's rights were not compromised.
     
  18. cady

    cady Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Scarlet great post! JMO
     
  19. Wizzy

    Wizzy New Member

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    I believe at this time there is... A Whole Lotta speculation going on. If the news watching is proven and JSS knew it, also her bias or she had an agenda, then if JSS knew all of this, I'll agree. Just because her 1st husband was prosecuted by Juan, isn't enough. We would have to know and prove for a fact she attended the proceedings and knew who Juan was. Probable yes, proven not yet.
    Again though, the lady juror said she had to apologize in the deliberation room. My thought is this lady juror would have had to have been excused too. A juror can't disrespect another juror. That kind of behavior isn't tolerated, even trying to get a unanimous verdict. You could probably yell but not direct it at a particular juror. Juror #17 most likely included in her note to JSS the conditions in deliberations. So I believe JSS would have had to excuse 2 jurors, the lady who yelled at her and #17. I believe that would have been a big problem. jmoo. I believe JSS knew there was a problem and handled it the best she knew how. The lawyers also knew and neither KN or JM requested to dismiss a juror. From the interview of the three they stated they pretty much knew they wanted death in beginning of deliberations or soon there after. My point is everyone has the right to maintain their position. jmoo. Hopefully soon this will be resolved and all the facts will come out.
     
  20. Brandy809

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    Casandra Collins was a former cellmate of Arias. She was interviewed by Dr Drew last year.
     
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