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Nancy_Drew

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She actually looks Larger than Travis in the second photo.

I thought so too... Then I went back and took a second look at the 1st and 3rd pictures to compare, and she's not really standing straight up in either of them...
 

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Thanks.

I've been in direct contact with a few individuals who formerly supported Arias, though one did not necessarily believe in her innocence. Contact included letters and postcards, phone calls and visits. Over time, they came to see her manipulative ways and are very, very sorry for their support of her. I have to be careful with what I do reveal, so anything I have said has another source on SM before I disclose more information. I also am a few layers removed from a mole/the moles who have infiltrated some of her most secret groups.

When this is all over and done, if I have permission, I will share more of what I learned over time.

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Thank you!! It must be hard to know what you know and not be able to let the truth out. I commend you for being so strong... and at the same time can't wait for you to be able to share it all with us!
 

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Wow gcharlie! You have been busy! Excellent work and thanks for sharing the parts you can. I hope the Court will tighten up their security and procedures after all this fallout and info has come to light. Why MDLR aided and abetted CMJA is beyond my comprehension. The only thing that comes to mind is MONEY. Do you have insight on that as well?

Zuri, I don't know why MDLR has acted in the way that she has. My best guess is that she is strongly opposed to the death penalty and she allowed herself to become personally involved with Arias.

Qualifications for a mitigation specialist include being a licensed social worker. This is not a very high bar, and I apologize if I offend anyone by saying that. MDLR is also privately contracted by Maricopa County, as opposed to being employed by the Office of the Public Defender. Because of this, her supervision is limited to the attorneys representing the defendant and she does not go through regular performance reviews. A lot can fall through the cracks this way and IMO without constant supervision and feedback, she has not had a path set for professional development.

MDLR was assigned as mit spec shortly after Victoria Washington's motion to resign as counsel was accepted in December 2011. A letter to Lisa written by Arias in August 2013 was just released a few days ago. In that letter, Arias wrote that MDLR had been buying art supplies, including art paper for Arias for more than a year. Arias said in this letter that the art paper is banned. Very early on, MDLR was using her own money to provide things to Arias. It is unclear if the art paper was always banned, but it stands to reason that it was contraband, or not allowed.

I have now heard from three different sources that later art sold as Arias' was not in fact drawn by her. If art paper was banned, then anything released beginning in the fall of 2013 should be on cardboard. If anyone has a good eye for sketches, look at her art carefully. You should be able to tell what is on cardboard vs. acid paper.
 

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So now that J17 has an attorney and is going to sue on the basis of privacy jury mistreatment, the other 11 should also get restitution... ESPECIALLY since THEIR private info was leaked FIRST!

That's another thing that bothered me about MK's article... He said nothing about the juror list that was leaked and Jurors 1-11 having THEIR private info posted on the internet BEFORE j17's was!! Does he know this?
 

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Do we even know that it was possible for JM to strike J17? I do not recall seeing anything that JM tried to get J17 eliminated or that he voted to keep her.
LambChop,
From this video, It looks like JM tried to get her off twice BEFORE the trial even started.
Here is JM interviewing Juror 138, (juror 17)
Starting at 8:22 to 14:48

At 26:19
JSS call the attorneys to the bench to talk about Juror 138 (soon to be juror 17)
KN says he has no motions, JM says he clearly wants her discharged for cause.

Juan tries again at 31:55!

This was on October 7, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7jqGuEniFA&feature=youtu.be&t=8m
 

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From everything I have read from court documents, Jodi has had 3 mitigation specialist.
1. Gwen Fehnel
2. Teresa Price
3. MDLR ~ cha cha

Do they change with each Defense Council? Or was the other two just too
skeert-ified :scared:
 

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Wow gcharlie! You have been busy! Excellent work and thanks for sharing the parts you can. I hope the Court will tighten up their security and procedures after all this fallout and info has come to light. Why MDLR aided and abetted CMJA is beyond my comprehension. The only thing that comes to mind is MONEY. Do you have insight on that as well?
Greed and arrogance comes to mind.
 

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Zuri, I don't know why MDLR has acted in the way that she has. My best guess is that she is strongly opposed to the death penalty and she allowed herself to become personally involved with Arias.

Qualifications for a mitigation specialist include being a licensed social worker. This is not a very high bar, and I apologize if I offend anyone by saying that. MDLR is also privately contracted by Maricopa County, as opposed to being employed by the Office of the Public Defender. Because of this, her supervision is limited to the attorneys representing the defendant and she does not go through regular performance reviews. A lot can fall through the cracks this way and IMO without constant supervision and feedback, she has not had a path set for professional development.

MDLR was assigned as mit spec shortly after Victoria Washington's motion to resign as counsel was accepted in December 2011. A letter to Lisa written by Arias in August 2013 was just released a few days ago. In that letter, Arias wrote that MDLR had been buying art supplies, including art paper for Arias for more than a year. Arias said in this letter that the art paper is banned. Very early on, MDLR was using her own money to provide things to Arias. It is unclear if the art paper was always banned, but it stands to reason that it was contraband, or not allowed.

I have now heard from three different sources that later art sold as Arias' was not in fact drawn by her. If art paper was banned, then anything released beginning in the fall of 2013 should be on cardboard. If anyone has a good eye for sketches, look at her art carefully. You should be able to tell what is on cardboard vs. acid paper.

Thank you so much for your info, GCharlie. It's all so helpful and insightful.

Do you have a citation for the letter to Lisa? Who is this Lisa, exactly?

Maybe paper was sneaked into Estrella in magazines? Legal documents?

With respect to your earlier comments regarding what might go down in Perryville and the restrictions in place there to prevent criminals like JA from communicating with the outside the way she can at Estrella...... IIRC at Perryville, first there will be no visits, then Jodi would be allowed non-contact visits from people on her visitors list, and later still contact visits. Visitors (phone and in person) would have to pass criminal background checks at their expense. Only 20 are allowed on the list. They are subject to search, including by K-9's (this search sounds like a TSA search) and a dress code. I'm guessing the legal team means a legitimate team of legal personnel, and not just friends of Jodi's who happen to be attorneys. IIRC, the inmate gets strip-searched before and after visits: no more writing messages on an arm. There is no computer access of any kind for inmates; no video visits.

Art supplies are restricted at Perryville, and must be earned by consistent good behavior. Even then, inmates are not allowed to keep very much of a supply. Some types of art supplies require long-term demonstration of good behavior. It seems to me very likely that other inmates will target Jodi's art supplies as a way of getting to her.
 

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LambChop,
From this video, It looks like JM tried to get her off twice BEFORE the trial even started.
Here is JM interviewing Juror 138, (juror 17)
Starting at 8:22 to 14:48

At 26:19
JSS call the attorneys to the bench to talk about Juror 138 (soon to be juror 17)
KN says he has no motions, JM says he clearly wants her discharged for cause.

Juan tries again at 31:55!

This was on October 7, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7jqGuEniFA&feature=youtu.be&t=8m

That is what I thought. We do not know if he was able to use a strike or not for this juror, or why. We are not privy to that information.
 

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trucrimefest! :cheers: THANK YOU! This is exactly right on as my theory.

You're welcome and thank you for saying so!

I have another question. If JAII is trying to blame the prosecution or anyone else aside from the DT re: the juror info list, why don't they ask SJ who released it to him? It seems like a no brainier. Am I missing something?
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That is what I thought. We do not know if he was able to use a strike or not for this juror, or why. We are not privy to that information.

Could of he ran out of strikes?

I still don't understand why Juan can get in trouble for this. Can someone please explain this to me? I don't think Juan leaked the J17's name. I think it's the JA supporters, since they got the rest of the list. JA was in the room also when questioning J17.
 

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Pretty sure this is Katicoolady friend and I hope he does not mind if I post it, but his theory could be very spot on.
Jodi Mind Tricks ‏@JodiMindTricks 31m31 minutes ago

Logically, there is only 1 valid reason why @michaelbkiefer didn't report the 11 juror names listed on #jodiarias ii site - he leaked them.
 

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Pretty sure this is Katicoolady friend and I hope he does not mind if I post it, but his theory could be very spot on.
Jodi Mind Tricks ‏@JodiMindTricks 31m31 minutes ago

Logically, there is only 1 valid reason why @michaelbkiefer didn't report the 11 juror names listed on #jodiarias ii site - he leaked them.

And who leaked the list to him? :D
 

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I feel the same way. I got so angry watching these videos and can't believe how hard Juan had to fight to just get an answer. JSS should have put her foot down and forced dr. f. to answer his questions. It was a battle all the way through the trial for Juan just to get treated fairly.

I just watched Fonseca's cross from Juan and simply cannot believe she was allowed to be so rude and to in fact instruct the jury on who to believe...this had nothing to do with an appeal...something is really wrong with JSS and frankly the courts in AZ in general to let a witness disrespect the prosecutor like that. Stunning. I would love to hear some comments from the jurors on ho w they found her. And how in the world could they find another such perfect clone of alv?
 

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It's really pointing at JA's side leaking info. They seem to be telling about themselves or JA, just like the whole retrial. They point at their opposition, Juan, Flores, especially Travis, the things JA or themselves are doing or have done. Nurmi pretending to be JM mocking Dr. D. etc...it was just too obvious to me.

As for MK, BN and the likes of them. They are envious of little ole short Juan who in all honesty pushes to the limit, has more recognition, admirers & position than a reporter and a GuyInTheSKY helicopter reporter turned master of everything and a not well liked reporter in the Phonex area. I'd rather be the assistant prosecutor, not wheeling and dealing testimony or publishing for a rag of a news outlet anymore. jmo
 

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It's really pointing at JA's side leaking info. They seem to be telling about themselves or JA, just like the whole retrial. They point at their opposition, Juan, Flores, especially Travis, the things JA or themselves are doing or have done. Nurmi pretending to be JM mocking Dr. D. etc...it was just too obvious to me.

As for MK, BN and the likes of them. They are envious of little ole short Juan who in all honesty pushes to the limit, has more recognition, admirers & position than a reporter and a GuyInTheSKY helicopter reporter turned master of everything and a not well liked reporter in the Phonex area. I'd rather be the assistant prosecutor, not wheeling and dealing testimony or publishing for a rag of a news outlet anymore. jmo



And none of them would make a good pimple on Juan's *advertiser censored**.
 
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