DNA Doe Project - General Discussion

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  1. Liv27

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    This will be a tough one. Many aggravating circumstances are in play.
    At lest one victim was misidentified all those years ago, but that could also be a clue if they have documentation on identified victims.
     
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    JovanSrna Well-Known Member

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    Apparently, only six victims were unidentified and only six people remain missing.

    The article below includes quotes from a granddaughter of one missing woman and a man who wrote a book about the fire.

    Circus fire’s lingering mystery: DNA may solve woman’s quest to find out her grandmother’s fate

    “Clearly someone saw Fifield’s burned body at the armory and thought it matched who they were looking for, and they claimed the wrong body,” Skidgell said. “I think this happened several times, which is why after the bodies were all claimed they were left with six unidentified bodies and six missing persons but they didn’t match up, of course.”

    168 people died in this tragedy. The tragedy sadly feels forgotten IMO. I hope they enlist this man's help.
    Extracting a viable sample will be the toughest part for sure. Documentation could be very abundant for all we know.
     
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    I’m almost afraid of what additional questions an identification now might bring up. I feel like she may be right in that the final “figures” just happened to match up. I am certainly anxious about this one(s)!
     
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    So, check this out. The Hartford Circus Fire has a dedicated internet page with troves of information.
    The Hartford Circus Fire ~ July 6, 1944
    If you want to see the graphic images, including these two women's burned remains, the password is 1565.
    BTW, is there a thread on these Does ?
     
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    Thanks for the link! I had it saved in my notes but never realized it required a password lol!

    I found this one...

    CT - CT - Little Miss 1565 & the Hartford Circus Fire, 1944
     
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    They have a new case from Kentucky, Grant County John Doe from 1989. This was a homicide victim.
    There is also an update on Apache Junction Jane Doe. They need help so they released some information.
     
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    New Case!
    New case is listed on their website. Delafield John Doe 1977, or UP7632.
     
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    Small Update:
    New Case listed on Facebook: 1988 Grays Harbor County Jane Doe (UP12855)
    Barron County 2017 Doe is now in the GedMatch system.
     
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    They have a new case!
    1996 Trabuco Canyon John Doe of California UP 7686
    He is undergoing sequencing. This is practically a child! The age estimate is 14 - 25.
    Cases like this are all kinds of sad. This is their second case from this county, Tracey Hobson was Anaheim Jane Doe.
    Colleen lives in this county so I'm hopeful that this will lead to more cases being solved this way, they have like 80 something UIDs.
     
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    Updates:
    Allegan County John Doe has a new top match of 224.7 cM.
    Kenosha John Doe has a new top match of 102.9 cM.

    Barron County John Doe from 2017 has a top match of 101.9 cM.
    Nation River Lady has a top match of 49.5 cM.
     
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    For matches over 40cM:

    Kern County Jane Doe has 3 new ones
    Kenosha County John Doe has 13 more
    Nation River Lady has 9, who also all happen to have trees.
     
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    They have a new case!
    1985 Mowry Ave Jane Doe (CA) NamUs #UP53306 at lab for extraction.
     
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    TBH, I would have nicknamed this one something like Gerald Doe.
    America has a copious amount of Jefferson counties, second most common county name after Washington.
     
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    It's been a while since I have had time to read the updates here (JJ Vallow & Tylee Ryan case is keeping me super busy). Thanks to everyone for keeping this thread updated!
    I'm linking all the threads I can find for the new cases below.

    Grant County John Doe 1989: KY - KY - Grant Co., WhtMale UP86, 30-39, GSW, hands cut off, in barn, Apr'89

    Apache Junction Jane Doe: AZ - AZ - Apache Junction, HispFem UP6349, 16-18, in desert near Hwy 60, Aug'92

    Delafield John Doe 1977: WI - WI - Delafield, WhtMale UP7632, 17-30, MVA, car stolen in Gurnee, IL, Sep'77

    Grays Harbor Co Jane Doe 1988: WA - WA - Elma, AsianFem 330UFWA, 25-40, gold earring w/ 5 blue sapphires, Oct'88

    Barron County John Doe 2017: WI - WI - Barron Co, Skeletal Remains found in Woodlot, Maple Grove, 3 Dec 2017

    Trabuco Canyon John Doe 1996: CA - CA - Orange Co., WhtMale Skeletal 190UMCA, 15-19, in Trabuco Canyon, Dec'96

    Allegan County John Doe: MI - MI - Allegan Co, Male, 18-99, Maxilla w/teeth, Shore of Lake Michigan, Saugatuck, July 2014

    Kenosha John Doe: WI - WI - Kenosha Co., Male UP4762, 39-60, mustache, tattooed forearm, Aug'93

    Nation River Lady: CANADA - Canada - Casselman, Ont, 'Nation River Lady' WhtFem 239UFON, 25-50, May'75

    Mowry Ave Jane Doe 1985: CA - CA - Newark "Mowry Ave Jane Doe" WhtFem UP53306 <40, Oct 85

    Jefferson Co John Doe 2019: TN - TN - Jefferson Co, Body in a Bag, Douglas Lake, Dandridge, Mar 2019

    (I'm excited about this last one as it's a thread I started. It's hard to believe that "Gerald" hasn't been identified yet. I hope DNA Doe Project has success in IDing all of their cases).
     
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    One more new case, it feels like a deluge of new cases!
    • 1982 Caledonia Columbia Co Jane Doe (CA) NamUs #UP12533 at lab for extraction.
    This case is actually from Wisconsin, California seems to be a typo.
     
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    Wow!! Amazing new updates and additions!!
     
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