Documentary on bestiality premieres at Sundance Film Festival

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  1. Sally

    Sally Former Member

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    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/lo...ance,0,6997847.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines
    If art reflects life/culture, what does this say about us? A film about bestiality is not only produced but legitimized and referred to as "beautiful."
    Is there some planet I can move to? :sick:
     
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  3. southcitymom

    southcitymom New Member

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    Whether we like it or not, bestiality is part of the human condition. I agree with the writer/director in the article who said that "nothing human is alien to me." I am grateful for artists in our society who are brave enough to explore the crevasses.
     
  4. Sally

    Sally Former Member

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    LOL. Alright. I suppose child porn should be "explored" as well. After all, as long as it's labeled as "art" it automatically gives legitimacy to any type of perversion. :crazy:
     
  5. southcitymom

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    Child porn has been explored through art a great deal for many centuries. That doesn't make such art pornographic any more than a documentary that explores bestiality legitimizes bestiality.

    Art reflects life. Good art can even help us towards a fuller understanding of life. I think an artist should be able to explore anything and everything under the sun...that doesn't mean that I will want to see the results of those explorations, but nothing should be off-limits (as long as sentient beings aren't being physically harmed). :) IMHO, of course.
     
  6. Mabel

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    The mood???? As in wine, soft music, and candle light?

    I'll pass, thank you.

    Beautiful???
    :eek:
     
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  8. LionRun

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    Quote:
    PARK CITY, Utah -- "Zoo" is a documentary about what director Robinson Devor accurately characterizes as "the last taboo, on the boundary of something comprehensible." But remarkably, an elegant, eerily lyrical film has resulted.

    "Zoo," premiering before a rapt audience Saturday night at Sundance, manages to be a poetic film about a forbidden subject, a perfect marriage between a cool and contemplative director (the little-seen "Police Beat") and potentially incendiary subject matter: sex between men and animals. Not graphic in the least, this strange and strangely beautiful film combines audio interviews (two of the three men involved did not want to appear on camera) with elegiac visual re-creations intended to conjure up the mood and spirit of situations. The director himself puts it best: "I aestheticized the sleaze right out of it."


    Of course animals are not children, and I want to make clear that my comparison is based solely on the replacing of words in what is written above. If we replace in our minds, "animals" with children there is no way to justify the movie's or the writer aboves' twisted stand on the subject of bestiality.

    I don't understand how anyone could consider the, "film" less than advocating animal abuse forced on innocent animals by twisted individuals. The, "film" should remain a, "last taboo", and not be referred to as, "a poetic film about a forbidden subject". "But, remarkably, an elegant eerily lyrical film has resulted." ????? "strange and strangely beautiful film" ????? How can this thinking be okay?

    Bestiality is abusive, and it can injure or kill the animal depending on what animal is used, and what horrific act is forced upon the helpless animal. And, people that do this are twisted, and I wouldn't want any part of them.

    Sorry folks, stick a fork in me, I am done. Gag me with a forklift. The thought that a, "strangely beautiful film" could possibly be made concerning bestiality knocked me to my knees.

    If society becomes accepting of hearing about such films, how long will it take for some of us to begin to become desensitized to an actual animal abuse case involving bestiality?

    Lion
     
  9. Mabel

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    Very well said, LionRun.
     
  10. laini

    laini cemetery walker

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    bestiality is illegal, isn't it?
     
  11. southcitymom

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    Yes, it is.
     
  12. Lizzie's Mom

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    Just when you think you've heard it all, along comes this load of total garbage. Next on the agenda will be some creative serial killer and his "beautiful" methods of slaughter and torture. Some people can attempt to justify almost anything. Well, guess what.....you can dress up hog manure anyway you like....it still smells like s&@t. :rolleyes:
     
  13. southcitymom

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    There's actually LOTS of film, literature, etc... on this subject already - most of it fictional, but a good bit of it taken from real life cases.

    I don't think calling a film "beautiful" is the same thing as calling its subject beautiful. There are numerous beautiful films about ugly subject matter.
     
  14. LionRun

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    Thank you mabel.

    Lion
     
  15. KrisNine

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    I agree with you LionRun. This is all a bit too much for me.
     
  16. LionRun

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    Thank you KrisNine.

    Lion
     
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    Advance info on the 2008 Sundance Indy Film "Necrofeelya"

    A poetic and lovely film by artists willing to explore any and all crevasses. Minor children can be heard playing in the background while this contemplative film recreates aesthetically the forbidden act of necrophilia.

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    OK, so I'm kidding.

    The Sundance Festival always interested me and I wouldn't have minded going there many years ago. Now it's just a little too sick and dark for my tastes.

    Geez, if people wanted to watch all this stuff they just have to turn on their evening news. :D
     
  18. LionRun

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    Eeeek:eek:! Or, should I scream, Iiiiick:eek: ! So sad; but, unfortunately true.

    Lion
     
  19. julianne

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    I think it's realistic to make the arguement that animals ARE sentient beings, which really only means that they are "endowed with feeling"---we all know animals are capable of FEELING---I know this when my dog is overcome with joyous feelings simply because I arrived home, or is sullen when I don't greet her immediately and long enough to her standards, or starts shaking and hides when I ask her if she wants a bath, etc.

    Anyway, I guess my point is that as far as beastiality is concerned, animals ARE physically harmed---you can't tell me that some freak trying to get his rocks off on my yorkshire terrier isn't going to hurt, and most likely KILL her.

    I'll take it a step further and say that animals cannot consent to this, so that brings up a totally different issue............

    This is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. It's so disgusting to me that I cannot even think of a more appropriate adjective......just disgusting.

    The following is copied & pasted from the comments section of the posted article. It really echoes my feelings, so here it is:

    I cannot believe the depths we have allowed society to sink. I mean how can anyone describe a film glorifying bestiality as beautiful. I guess the same writer could call a four car pile up with 10 decapitated heads lined up on the side of the road as strangly symmetrical, but it would not make it fit for publication in the newspaper. Just because he wants to date a horse doesn't mean the rest of us have to see it glorified.
     
  20. LionRun

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    Dear julianne, I am sooo in agreement with you on this. It is a disgrace--absolutely deplorable.


    Lion
     
  21. Peter Hamilton

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    Robert Redford should hang his head in shame--How can he allow necrophilia and beastiality films to be entered at Sundance?, one of the most famous film festivals in the world---I think he's lost it or perhaps, since he's 70 years old now, he may not realize that his own film festval is being dragged thru the mud--What's next? Sado-Masochism films with ....
     

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