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Samoa Arrests Anti-Vaccination Activist As Measles Death Toll Rises
CDC: 1,300 Americans have died from flu this season
Health officials say 2.6 million people have contracted flu
Separating flu fact from fiction: What to know
25 states reporting high flu activity
4.6 million illnesses, 39,000 hospitalizations and 2,100 deaths reported
The effect of vaccination against flu has been studied in a great deal of detail. There are large numbers of very good articles on the matter. Go to your local library and ask for help finding some information on it. Immunity IS studied in great detail, whoever told you that nonsense about ethics codes doesn't have a clue. (For the record, I am about to retire after 31 years in medical research.)
If you'd like to know how the flu works in a world without vaccination, read _The Great Flu Epidemic_ by John Barry.
Re: all of your vaccine comments: "Bravo!" In another message you pointed out that insurance companies urge customers to get flu shots because it saves the companies a lot of money to keep their clients healthy.
Another side of that same box is this: If flu shots were NOT proven to be effective and to pose only minimal risk, a physician would not advise you to get one without IRB-overseen (CFR Title 21) informed consent. When you get surgery, you sign an informed consent form, because even though the operation may be hugely effective, it probably poses more than minimal risk to the patient. This is a significant point: a physician who advised you to get any intervention (vaccine shot, e.g.) without informed consent would have to be certain that the intervention was likely to be effective and posed no more than minimal risk, or face losing his medical license. Losing his medical license--like Andy Wakefield.
Thumbs up, Gitana1!
If there is a vaccine for this new "Coronavirus", I will get it.
Death or a flu shot? No brainer.
I wonder how many "antivaxxers" would also be in line.
The Great Influenza!! Great book. They describe the evolution of the germ theory a bit in it and I love that stuff.
@AC4RD if you're interested and haven't read, there are two other books that were fascinating to me about medical history (germ theory and vaccine history). One was The Speckled Monster (Smallpox/innoculations) and another was The Strange Case of the Broad Street Pump (cholera/germ theory). Fascinating and very good reads!!
Antivaxxers are religious about it like most conspiracy theorists so my guess is no.
This is tragic.
This year I have decided to take the flu shot, I haven't done that earlier as I've never had the flu (at least not been ill with the typical flu symptoms, only had mild colds), but this year after having had the Covid-19, I feel it's better to be safe than sorry. I don't know if the Covid-19 infection will have any long-time side effects on my health, but I won't take any unnecessary risks, and I'm in the 60+ age group now, and will get the shot free as I work at a hospital (but not close to the patients).
Here's an interesting article about what might happen when the flu and the corona viruses circulate at the same time: What happens when flu meets Covid-19?
I haven’t had a flu shot shot in 25 years and I haven’t been sick once besides your occasional hangover.
Anti-vaxxers are extremely aggressive, and maybe it's time to fight fire with fire? Flood social media with all of the cases of kids who were not vaccinated and got sick and died from diseases that could have been eradicated by vaccinations.
The flu vaccination changes every year. Some years it's very effective and some years it's not very effective. There are different types of flu and the vaccine is made using the odds of what type of flu will be showing up. That's a total simplification. This is an article about flu vaccines and why sometimes they are not effective. Why doesn't the flu vaccine work sometimes? - UChicago Medicine
Opinion | Flu is on a COVID-19 collision course — but it's not too late to soften the blow
The flu is on a collision course with the worst infectious disease outbreak we’ve experienced since the 1918 pandemic.
I will get whatever shots I can, including the shingles vaccine. Some of my friends have had shingles, and it was sheer misery.
Agree with that. But the vaccine is not a picnic. It comes in two shots. The 2nd one was such a Dozy, I thought that I had Covid.
Gee, thanks, the first one sure made my arm sore & I'll have the second in October.