UT Dylan Rounds, Lucin, Box Elder Co, #2

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I imagine there are all sorts of scenarios where a young man could take off.

However, there'd usually be plenty of clues such as their financial affairs (using bank a/c, cleaned out bank a/c, purchased travel tickets, taken clothing, taken their tech items, confided in someone, said subtle goodbyes to people they realise on retrospect, sorted out their affairs etc). Plus being spotted on CCTV or by other people in different destinations.

Did DR have a dog? There's been no mention AFAIK but he strikes me as someone who'd have a dog or two.

I suspect a large reward could flush out info on this case.
 

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Sep 9 post by Dylan's mom on the official Find... fb page: Log in or sign up to view

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BECSO update: It has been 11 days since Justin Rounds and I met with BECSO and were read the press release that we were told would be released "in a day or two" that has yet to happen. As small as it seems it is yet another lie. Instead of waiting for them to decide to release something here is what is going on:
  • SBI has joined the investigation
  • Weber County is assisting
  • Continued FBI assistance
  • BECSO will NOT release lead
  • There will be many items that were gathered reanalyzed with more advanced technology.
CC's Sep 8 post about the sheriff's wife's involvement (with interesting comments): Log in or sign up to view
 
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I imagine there are all sorts of scenarios where a young man could take off.

However, there'd usually be plenty of clues such as their financial affairs (using bank a/c, cleaned out bank a/c, purchased travel tickets, taken clothing, taken their tech items, confided in someone, said subtle goodbyes to people they realise on retrospect, sorted out their affairs etc). Plus being spotted on CCTV or by other people in different destinations.

Did DR have a dog? There's been no mention AFAIK but he strikes me as someone who'd have a dog or two.

I suspect a large reward could flush out info on this case.

His family has had a $100,000 reward since June 26, I believe.
 

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On July 18 by a page admin on the official Find... fb group posted:

There is no evidence of a voicemail left for someone at 4:00pm from his phone as has been rumored. The last phone call activity on Dylan's phone is as stated in the timeline at 6:51am with his Grandma.

More debunked rumors in that post:
It was also stated on the official page that Dyan had a key to the gate of the property with the grain truck and didn't rely on JB for access.
 
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US District Court Electronic Case Filing System​

District of Utah (Central)​

CRIMINAL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 2:22-cr-00245-TC-1​


Case title: USA v. Brenner

Magistrate judge case number:2:22-mj-00439-DAO
Date Filed: 07/06/2022

Assigned to: Judge Tena Campbell

Defendant (1)
James Brenner

Pending Counts
18:922(g)(1) UNLAWFUL TRANSPORT OF FIREARMS, ETC. Felon in Possession of Firearm
(1)

Highest Offense Level (Opening)
Felony
Complaints
18:922(g)(1) Felon in Possession of a Firearm
Date Filed#Docket Text
06/29/2022
1
COMPLAINT as to James Brenner (1). Assigned to Magistrate Judge Daphne A. Oberg (jwt) [2:22-mj-00439-DAO] (Entered: 06/29/2022)
07/01/2022
3​
ORDER SETTING IN-PERSON HEARING OR TRIAL as to James Brenner Initial Appearance set for 7/5/2022 at 01:30 PM in Rm 8.400 before Magistrate Judge Jared C. Bennett. Signed by Magistrate Judge Jared C. Bennett on 7/1/22.(ksm) [2:22-mj-00439-DAO] (Entered: 07/01/2022)
07/05/2022
4
**SEALED DOCUMENT** PRETRIAL SERVICES REPORT as to James Brenner (mec) [2:22-mj-00439-DAO] (Entered: 07/05/2022)
07/05/2022
5​
Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge Magistrate Judge Brooke C. Wells: Initial Appearance/Attorney Appointment Hearing/Detention Hearing as to James Brenner held on 7/5/2022. Defendant present IN-PERSON and in custody. Financial Affidavit submitted. The court appoints FPD counsel. Added attorney Tessa Mary Hansen for James Brenner. The defendant waives formal reading of Complaint. Rights and penalties explained. The govt. seeks detention. The defendant seeks a continuance of his detention hearing. The court orders the defendant detained and remanded to the USMS pending detention hearing..( Arraignment set for 7/8/2022 at 01:30 PM in Rm 8.400 before Magistrate Judge Brooke C. Wells., Detention Hearing set for 7/8/2022 at 01:30 PM in Rm 8.400 before Magistrate Judge Jared C. Bennett.) Attorney for Plaintiff: Carlos Esqueda, Attorney for Defendant: Tessa Hansen, FPD. Interpreter: Not Needed. Probation Officer: Cat Bye-Routh. Court Reporter: electronic.(Time Start: 1:30:00 PM, Time End: 1:40:00 PM, Room 8.400.) (ksm) [2:22-mj-00439-DAO] (Entered: 07/05/2022)
07/05/2022
6​
DOCKET TEXT ORDER APPOINTING FEDERAL PUBLIC DEFENDER as to James Brenner Tessa Mary Hansen for James Brenner appointed. No attached document.

Representation shall continue for any post-sentencing activities initiated by the US Probation Office. Signed by Magistrate Judge Brooke C. Wells on 7/5/22.(ksm) [2:22-mj-00439-DAO] (Entered: 07/05/2022)
07/05/2022
7​
DOCKET TEXT ORDER OF TEMPORARY DETENTION as to James Brenner. No attached document. Detention Hearing set for 7/8/2022 at 01:30 PM in Rm 8.400 before Magistrate Judge Brooke C. Wells. Signed by Magistrate Judge Brooke C. Wells on 7/5/22.(ksm) [2:22-mj-00439-DAO] (Entered: 07/05/2022)
07/06/2022
8
SUBSTITUTION OF COUNSEL by USA. Carlos A. Esqueda replacing Kevin L. Sundwall as Assistant United States Attorney counsel. (Esqueda, Carlos) [2:22-mj-00439-DAO] (Entered: 07/06/2022)
07/06/2022
9
MOTION for Detention by USA as to James Brenner. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit Complaint)(Esqueda, Carlos) [2:22-mj-00439-DAO] (Entered: 07/06/2022)
07/06/2022
10
NOTICE OF ATTORNEY APPEARANCE: Tessa Mary Hansen appearing for James Brenner (Hansen, Tessa) [2:22-mj-00439-DAO] (Entered: 07/06/2022)
07/06/2022
11
INDICTMENT as to James Brenner (1) count(s) 1. Assigned to Judge Tena Campbell (alt) (Entered: 07/06/2022)
07/08/2022
15
**SEALED DOCUMENT**AMENDED PRETRIAL SERVICES REPORT as to James Brenner (mec) (Entered: 07/08/2022)
07/08/2022
16​
Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge Magistrate Judge Brooke C. Wells: Initial Appearance/Arraignment/Pretrial Conference/Detention Hearing as to James Brenner (1) Count 1 held on 7/8/2022.Defendant present IN-PERSON and in custody. The defendant waives formal reading of Indictment. Rights and penalties explained. The defendant enters a Plea of NOT GUILTY.The govt. makes an oral motion for protective order. The court GRANTS the motion for protective order. Written motion and order from govt to follow.The govt. seeks detention. The court hears from counsel. The court orders the defendant detained and remanded to the USMS pending resolution of this matter. ( Discovery due by 7/11/2022., Motions due by 8/1/2022., Plea Agreement due by 8/22/2022., Proposed Jury Instructions along with proposed voir dire questions 9/9/2022., 3 Day Jury Trial set for 9/12/2022 at 08:30 AM in Judges Chambers before Judge Tena Campbell.) Attorney for Plaintiff: Carlos Esqueda, Attorney for Defendant: Tessa Hansen, FPD. Interpreter: Not Needed. Probation Officer: Morgan Whalen. Court Reporter: eelctronic.(Time Start: 1:34:36 PM, Time End: 1:50:17 PM, Room 8.400.) (ksm) (Entered: 07/08/2022)
07/08/2022
17
ORDER OF DETENTION PENDING TRIAL as to James Brenner.

NOTE: Any future review of detention will remain with the magistrate judge who entered the first detention order, even if an order of referral to a different magistrate judge is entered on this defendant's case.
Motion terminated 9 MOTION for Detention filed by USA. Signed by Magistrate Judge Brooke C. Wells on 7/8/22.(ksm) (Entered: 07/08/2022)
07/08/2022
18
MOTION for Protective Order by USA as to James Brenner. (Attachments: # 1 Text of Proposed Order)(Esqueda, Carlos) (Entered: 07/08/2022)
07/11/2022
19
First CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE and Request for Reciprocal Discovery filed by USA as to James Brenner. (Esqueda, Carlos) (Entered: 07/11/2022)
07/11/2022
20
ORDER granting 18 Motion for Protective Order as to James Brenner (1). Signed by Magistrate Judge Brooke C. Wells on 7/11/22 (alt) (Entered: 07/11/2022)
08/26/2022
21
Second CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE and Request for Reciprocal Discovery filed by USA as to James Brenner. (Esqueda, Carlos) (Entered: 08/26/2022)



Updating Docket as of 9/10/22:

US District Court Electronic Case Filing System
District of Utah (Central)
CRIMINAL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 2:22-cr-00245-TC-1​


Case title: USA v. Brenner

Magistrate judge case number: 2:22-mj-00439-DAO
Date Filed: 07/06/2022
Assigned to: Judge Tena Campbell

Defendant (1)
James Brenner

Date Filed#Docket Text
08/26/2022
21
Second CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE and Request for Reciprocal Discovery filed by USA as to James Brenner. (Esqueda, Carlos) (Entered: 08/26/2022)
09/07/2022
22
First MOTION to Continue Jury Trial filed by James Brenner. (Attachments: # 1 Text of Proposed Order)(Hansen, Tessa) (Entered: 09/07/2022)
09/08/2022
23
ORDER TO CONTINUE - Ends of Justice as to James Brenner: Time excluded from date of the motion until new trial date. Motion granted: 22 First MOTION to Continue Jury Trial. 3-Day Jury Trial reset for 11/28/2022 at 08:30 AM in Rm 3.400 before Judge Tena Campbell. Signed by Judge Tena Campbell on 9/8/22 (alt) (Entered: 09/08/2022)

 

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Sep 9 post by Dylan's mom on the official Find... fb page: Log in or sign up to view

Excerpt:

BECSO update: It has been 11 days since Justin Rounds and I met with BECSO and were read the press release that we were told would be released "in a day or two" that has yet to happen. As small as it seems it is yet another lie. Instead of waiting for them to decide to release something here is what is going on:
  • SBI has joined the investigation
  • Weber County is assisting
  • Continued FBI assistance
  • BECSO will NOT release lead
  • There will be many items that were gathered reanalyzed with more advanced technology.
CC's Sep 8 post about the sheriff's wife's involvement (with interesting comments): Log in or sign up to view
YIKES!
 

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SEPT 29

SALT LAKE CITY (ABC4) – Authorities won’t relinquish their investigation of Dylan Rounds.

The 19-year-old disappeared on Memorial Day weekend. He was operating his farm in Lucin in western Box Elder County.

The mother of Dylan Rounds claimed authorities with Box Elder told her they will not turn the case to another agency to investigate. Candice Cooley said they would post their decision on Facebook.

But weeks have passed and there has been no official statement on Facebook from the sheriff’s department. Others pointed out that there may be a reason for the lack of transparency.

More at Missing in Utah: Family of Dylan Rounds continued to be left out of investigation
 

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I hope that Dylan's family can reestablish a good working relationship with the local authorities and agencies supporting Dylan's case. This case has a small LE department who has likely never dealt with this type of investigation, doing the best they know how. Did they make mistakes? Perhaps, but there is nothing to be gained by developing an adversarial posture towards them.

It is SO, so, so very important for the family of a victim/missing person to maintain a positive and productive working relationship with local LE, and supporting agencies. It can make all the difference in the outcome.

When cases are unresolved, there is great anger and frustration - understandably. That anger has no place to land, and often ends up being directed at LE. This is a huge mistake.
Anyone riling the family up and encouraging disparagement of LE is not helping; quite the opposite.

Thank you to all the LE personnel working tirelessly to find Dylan, and resolve this disappearance; and to those citizens supporting them.

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I hope that Dylan's family can reestablish a good working relationship with the local authorities and agencies supporting Dylan's case. This case has a small LE department who has likely never dealt with this type of investigation, doing the best they know how. Did they make mistakes? Perhaps, but there is nothing to be gained by developing an adversarial posture towards them.

It is SO, so, so very important for the family of a victim/missing person to maintain a positive and productive working relationship with local LE, and supporting agencies. It can make all the difference in the outcome.

When cases are unresolved, there is great anger and frustration - understandably. That anger has no place to land, and often ends up being directed at LE. This is a huge mistake.
Anyone riling the family up and encouraging disparagement of LE is not helping; quite the opposite.

Thank you to all the LE personnel working tirelessly to find Dylan, and resolve this disappearance; and to those citizens supporting them.

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The onus should not be on the grieving, terrified family to "maintain a positive and productive working relationship" with LE. They are in the midst of a traumatic ordeal that no one expects or wants. They never asked to be put in this position, and they have never dealt with something like this before. They are victims themselves, and they have no choice but to look to LE for help.

For LE on the other, this is literally their job, and if they cannot or will not perform the duties of their job (investigating the incident, following up on leads, communicating with the family) in a way that is thorough, professional, and empathetic to what the family is going through, then they need to hand off the investigation to an agency that can.

IMO. MOO.
 

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The onus should not be on the grieving, terrified family to "maintain a positive and productive working relationship" with LE. They are in the midst of a traumatic ordeal that no one expects or wants. They never asked to be put in this position, and they have never dealt with something like this before. They are victims themselves, and they have no choice but to look to LE for help.

For LE on the other, this is literally their job, and if they cannot or will not perform the duties of their job (investigating the incident, following up on leads, communicating with the family) in a way that is thorough, professional, and empathetic to what the family is going through, then they need to hand off the investigation to an agency that can.

IMO. MOO.
Theoretically, who could disagree with your position? The reality is that the lead agency isn’t subject to the same remedies as commercial firms are, and it is in the very best interest of the family to have a highly collaborative and positive relationship with them. Like it or not, that is reality.
We can be as incensed as we like, but it won’t help Dylan or his family. I am currently advocating for a family in a similar situation, and I can assure you the best path is not to have an adversarial relationship with the lead agency.

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I have been thinking about the relationship between family and LE. It is a hard balancing act for sure.

I recently watched the interview with a family member regarding missing Brandon Lawson. They also had a terrible relationship with LE and realized it was wasted energy. Once they determined they were not going to get anywhere with that attitude, it helped them.

I can only imagine how emotional I would be with a missing son. However, the wasted energy being upset at LE is not going to help them find Dylan. JMVHO, I think they can keep those feelings to themselves and continue as they are to reach out to others for help without bashing LE.
 

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Video: The family is searching with help from Diesel Brothers and a drone from EquuSearch with new technology.


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BOX ELDER COUNTY, Utah — The family of missing teen Dylan Rounds hopes new technology can help identify clues connected to his disappearance.

The 19-year-old from Idaho was last seen near his property in Lucin, Utah around Memorial Day weekend.

The Box Elder County Sheriff’s Office says homicide “likely occurred.”

Television stars, the Diesel Brothers, flew their helicopter to Lucin on Thursday to assist Dylan’s family with a drone they acquired from EquuSearch, a missing persons organization based out of the Midwest.

The Diesel Brothers have also agreed to match the family's $100,000 reward to find Dylan as well.

The drone is equipped with special lens that will take pictures to be sent back to EquuSearch to be analyzed.

“If Dylan was killed and if his body was buried out here, this has the ability to pick up on soil disturbances and anything that a cadaver could penetrate in the ground around it,” said Dave Sparks, also known as ‘Heavy D.’ “In fact, this technology is so potent that the federal government banned it for a while. There had to be a court ruling basically saying, ‘No, no, this is helpful. This is good, go use it.’”

More at link.

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Dylan’s family has received a lot of requests from people wanting to provide financial support to the search. They’re asking anyone who wishes to help out financially to donate to EquuSearch, so other families can use the same tools and technology to locate their loved ones.
 

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Video: The family is searching with help from Diesel Brothers and a drone from EquuSearch with new technology.


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BOX ELDER COUNTY, Utah — The family of missing teen Dylan Rounds hopes new technology can help identify clues connected to his disappearance.

The 19-year-old from Idaho was last seen near his property in Lucin, Utah around Memorial Day weekend.

The Box Elder County Sheriff’s Office says homicide “likely occurred.”

Television stars, the Diesel Brothers, flew their helicopter to Lucin on Thursday to assist Dylan’s family with a drone they acquired from EquuSearch, a missing persons organization based out of the Midwest.

The Diesel Brothers have also agreed to match the family's $100,000 reward to find Dylan as well.

The drone is equipped with special lens that will take pictures to be sent back to EquuSearch to be analyzed.

“If Dylan was killed and if his body was buried out here, this has the ability to pick up on soil disturbances and anything that a cadaver could penetrate in the ground around it,” said Dave Sparks, also known as ‘Heavy D.’ “In fact, this technology is so potent that the federal government banned it for a while. There had to be a court ruling basically saying, ‘No, no, this is helpful. This is good, go use it.’”

More at link.

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Dylan’s family has received a lot of requests from people wanting to provide financial support to the search. They’re asking anyone who wishes to help out financially to donate to EquuSearch, so other families can use the same tools and technology to locate their loved ones.

My heart really goes out to DR's parents that have endured so much already, and as farmers, looking at October on the calendar, they know too well that winter will soon be nipping at their heels.

The idea of your loved one being lost and uncovered on a cold winter night is too much to bear. o_O

It's difficult to work with an official body when the trust is broken and mutual respect is lost. As parents, this wasn't a property line dispute where they were ruled against, this was their son that they knew with every ounce of their being did not voluntarily walk away-- in his bare feet!

And so refreshing to see in today's age, a family that still wants financial contributions sent to organizations that help others including Tim Miller's TXEQ, and not themselves personally. Wishing them continued health, strength, and support.
 
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