Early Parole and Missed Opportunities-What happened?

Discussion in 'Jaycee Lee Dugard' started by JBean, Sep 1, 2009.

  1. JBean

    JBean Retired WS Administrator

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    I know the federal laws and sentencing guidelines have changed dramatically since Garrido's 50 year sentence was imposed. But even so, being paroled after 8 years is unheard of. Unless there were super extraordinary circumstances, this never should have come to pass.
    So what happened?
     


  2. Wise Old Owl

    Wise Old Owl Retired WS Staff & Founding member of AFKBPOFPOPL

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    I think he just "slipped through the cracks" and quite often at that. He knew the system - was intelligent enough to know WHAT they would be looking at and he figured out how to "talk the talk" to get his sorry subhuman self out.

    What I want to know was the "parole violation" in 1993. WHAT DID HE DO????? They gave him 6 months - so what was THAT all about - THEY HAD HIM BACK IN!!!!! THEY knew his history, his record, the transcripts from the trial FGS - exposing himself to little kids????? C'mon. WHAT DID HE DO TO GET THROWN BACK IN???? And more importantly - WHY DID THEY LET HIM BACK OUT??????????????

    Seriously, this is the ONE question I have been asking since we found out he went back to prison in 1993 and the subhuman female kept Jaycee!! From my timeline calculations - it was shortly after he got back out in August of '93 that Jaycee got pregnant with the first child.
     
  3. Patty G

    Patty G Retired WS Staff

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  4. xosugar

    xosugar New Member

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    He was in jail in 1993? That's the first I've heard of that. I seriously hope they don't cut his wife any deals. It is so bizarre that he had a parole officer AND the neighbors called the police to tell them there were people living in the back yard but no one actually checked back there??
     
  5. JBean

    JBean Retired WS Administrator

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    Thanks Patty..but he didn't answer the question at all. Even back then 16% of a sentence for a violent crime in any jurisdiction,was unheard of. Now it would be 80% and I know it wasn't that much back then, but 16%? Someone screwed up and this is CYA time,jmo.
     
  6. Patty G

    Patty G Retired WS Staff

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    He had a violation of his parole which landed him back in prison from April to August 1993.

    http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/dpgo_Phillip_Garrido_Prison_Parole_History_fc_20090828_3213263
     
  7. JBean

    JBean Retired WS Administrator

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    This is something else I am struggling with. Typically when someone is on parole, their search and seizure rights are out the window as a condition of parole. IOW, if LE wants to search the parolee's room or any common areas they share with other household members they can. Even if this does not extend to the parole officer, it would extend to LE. Somewhere I heard they didn't seacrh because of the inability to obtain a search warrant and I don't understand that. I am not doubting it happened, I just don't understand why and how.
     
  8. Patty G

    Patty G Retired WS Staff

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    I agree with you that the question wasn't answered. Looks like some deep diving into what happened back then to why he was released so early is the key to finding out what actually happened.
     
  9. Wise Old Owl

    Wise Old Owl Retired WS Staff & Founding member of AFKBPOFPOPL

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    Thanks Patty!!!!! I was glad I got to watch that "segment" again. I was so flabbergasted hearing this "govt official" basically "clear" the parole officer.

    Good for Katherine - she spoke up - she told him that she went and spoke with (she believes PG's then parole officer) and the guy told her "we know he's a sick puppy" and "we know he's gonna do it again - we just don't think he'll direct it at you". !!!!! :eek:

    NOW - hold up - that comment from THAT parole officer had to have been made shortly after 1988 - maybe 89/90. Katherine called them because she thought she saw him at work (she's a casino dealer). And that is how SHE found out he had gotten outta prision - the FIRST time. So this "parole officer - sworn to protect the people" made this kind of snide, snarky comment to her THEN - that was BEFORE he took Jaycee.

    The usless guy on LKL - never answered the question about him being put back in. Mr. Probyn asked him about PG going back in - he (Probyn) had his dates mixed up and said 1999 but he wasn't sure - and man o man did that "official" dodge and weave - never answered the question - didn't "correct" Mr. Probyn on the years - nothing, nadda.

    I'm telling y'all - THAT'S what is gonna put us over the edge on this case. WHY he was locked back up - for 6 months - on a "parole violation" - from a LIFETIME PAROLE situation and both state and fed convictions!!!! WHAT DID HE DO THEN? WHO dropped THAT ball and just let him walk out? I kinda think that's when he got the GPS - and could very well have been a condition of release. So, what did he do? He changed his game plan. He already had Jaycee (for a couple of years) so he decided to "kick back" and take care of business strictly "at home". That way his GPS would show a "stellar" record - parole officer (government lackey) would waltz through every couple of months - PG would "talk the talk" - and everyone would be sent on their merry little way. I think he got "comfortable" with the "situation" and that's why he was so arrogant and brought them all with him to the parole officer / police station. He just really didn't think anyone was THAT smart - or that anyone really cared anymore.
     
  10. Patty G

    Patty G Retired WS Staff

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    I don't recall ever hearing that LE didn't search the house because of not having a search warrant. Normally no search warrant is ever needed when searching a registered SO's home.

    If a child goes missing and there are 300 SO's in the neighborhood, LE just goes to the house and checks it out.
     
  11. raindrops300

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    I read somewhere (within these threads) that the officer failed to run a check on PG prior to going to the residence and was unaware he had prior convictions and was a RSO. I could go and look for the link, but there are so many it will take a while.
     
  12. Patty G

    Patty G Retired WS Staff

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    Patty G Retired WS Staff

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    Garrido violated federal parole, stayed free

    Garrido, who had been sentenced to 50 years on federal kidnapping charges, was sent to Nevada after his release to serve a state sentence of five years to life for sexual assault. Because his 11 years in the federal prison counted as time served, he was eligible for parole as soon as he arrived in Carson City on Jan. 22, 1988.

    On Aug. 1, 1988, the Nevada Parole Board, by a 3-2 vote released Garrido. He was technically on parole in Nevada, but federal parole took precedence and he moved to California.



    http://marriage.about.com/gi/dynami...://www.rgj.com/article/20090828/NEWS/90828055
     
  14. Wise Old Owl

    Wise Old Owl Retired WS Staff & Founding member of AFKBPOFPOPL

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    Where would he have served this "parole violation" in '93? Patty's article above says he was released from FEDERAL parole in 1999 (probably where Probyn got the dates mixed up). So I guess the LIFETIME parole was from the State of Nevada. He got 50 years on the kidnap charge federally - served 11 years in Leavenwoth. Then was paroled on the fed charges and transferred to Nevada for the state charges (rape) and IIRC he got LIFE for that rape. But he was soon paroled outta Nevada and he went straight back to California.

    Nothing - nada about this parole violation in 93. He went back in April 93 to Aug 93. That has been widely reported. Still, we have NO ONE admitting to this information (nor is anyone denying it either) - everyone just "shuts up real quick like" when the question hits THAT area.

    Where would we check for the court records? California?
     
  15. LinasK

    LinasK Verified insider- Mark Dribin case

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    Here's the answer:
    Garrido was ultimately arrested in the kidnapping and rape.

    The federal government prosecuted him on the kidnapping charge, while Washoe County prosecuted him on the rape charge, court records indicate.

    After serving 10 years in Leavenworth federal penitentiary in Kansas, where he met and married his current wife Nancy, Garrido was granted federal parole and moved to Northern Nevada Correctional Center in Carson City.

    Parole records released by the Nevada Board of Parole Commissioners today reveal commissioners denied parole to Garrido at least three times: Feb. 1, 1986; April 1, 1986 and Feb. 1, 1988.

    On Aug. 1, 1988, two commissioners granted Garrido parole from Nevada prison with the conditions that he complete a substance abuse treatment program, receive mental health counseling, remain in California, maintain steady employment, undergo drug testing and be subject to search and seizure.

    Also released today was a risk assessment sheet that calculated how much time Garrido should serve based on eight questions, including whether he had prior convictions (he had two or more previous convictions that were not detailed), if a weapon was used during the commission of the crime (one was not), and if he was over 18 when he committed the offense.

    The numbers are then added up, and Garrido was calculated to be a moderate risk who should serve 10.5 years in prison. He served 11 and was released to his mother's home in Antioch on Aug. 26, 1988.

    He remained there until his arrest last week when he showed up at his parole office with his wife, Jaycee Lee Dugard, now 29, whom he called Allissa, and two girls, ages 11 and 15, whom he fathered with Dugard.
    http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/20090831/NEWS/908319991/1058
     
  16. nursebeeme

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    I have a question about the alleged four or so months he spent in prison after Jaycee was kidnapped.... does anyone know if that is true or not? I cannot find my link to it and it is driving me NUTS! Also numbnuts in the larry king video said he had not been back to prison so I am cornfused!
     
  17. LinasK

    LinasK Verified insider- Mark Dribin case

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    Available federal and state parole records show that Phillip Garrido was released from a Nevada prison in 1988 only to violate his federal parole in California five years later.

    But Garrido, suspected of kidnapping Jaycee Lee Dugard from South Lake Tahoe in 1991, served just a four months in federal prison for the parole violation in 1993.
    Nevada officials were never informed of his parole violation.

    “If we had been notified of that we would have done a retake,” said Gail Powell, spokeswoman for the Nevada Department of Public Safety. She said he would have been brought back to serve the remainder of his sentence in Carson City.
    “We were never informed,” she said. “I don’t know why.”
    http://www.rgj.com/article/20090828/NEWS/90828055/1321
     
  18. nursebeeme

    nursebeeme Registered User

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    thank you swagster! yes! where would we look for this? The (expletive expletive expletive) man on the larry king video denied that he had been back to prison! What is up with that?????????????????????????
     
  19. nursebeeme

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    bold is mine and I am seeeeeeeeeeeething mad right now!!!!! I hope that the prison and parole systems learn some HUGE LESSONS from this disasterous screw up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    eta: I live so close to the USP where Garrido was imprisoned I could almost spit on it! I want to go over there and give them a piece of my mind!!!!
     
  20. Wise Old Owl

    Wise Old Owl Retired WS Staff & Founding member of AFKBPOFPOPL

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    Ok - first - here's the quote about LE saying they needed a warrant. Came from the neighbor's call about the tents in the backyard and children living back there.




    Erika Pratt said that two years ago, she called police after seeing what looked like a living compound with tents and sheds.

    No warrant
    Sheriff's deputies came to ask questions, Pratt said, but they told her that because they didn't have a warrant, they couldn't search the house.

    "I always wished someone could do something about it," Pratt said. "It was like he was charging people to live there."



    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/27/BA0Q19EMR7.DTL#ixzz0PRbnnZS7

    Still looking for the article about the parole violation in 93. Nevermind - my good buddy nursie found it.
     

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