East and Northeast

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  1. bessie

    bessie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    :seeya:When posting about a particular case, PLEASE :please: type the victims' names in the title of your post.

    :tyou:

    Use this thread to discuss other potential victims in the Eastern/Northeastern states.

    The dates from the FBI timeline are meant as a general reference since exact locations were not provided for all timeframes.

    EAST and NORTHEAST
    October 5, 2004 to October 16, 2004
    November 2, 2008: Boston
    April 1, 2009 to April 14, 2009
    October 15, 2010 to October 25, 2010
    June 2, 2011 to June 16, 2011
    June 2, 2011. He rented a car and drove to Essex, Vermont.
    June 8, 2011, Keyes admitted to the abduction and murder of Bill and Lorraine Currier. Keyes disposed of a weapon stolen from the Currier home and the gun he used to shoot Bill Currier in Blake Falls Reservoir. These weapons and a nearby cache were recovered by the FBI. Following the murder, Keyes traveled around the East Coast before driving back to Chicago

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220907"]Timelines *NO DISCUSSION* - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]


    http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/201...released-in-serial-killer-case/keyes-timeline

    http://www.fbi.gov/anchorage/press-...he-publics-assistance-concerning-israel-keyes
     
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  3. Lucky 1

    Lucky 1 not all those who wander are lost....

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    http://bangordailynews.com/2010/11/08/news/state/state-police-work-to-identify-body-found-in-stacyville-woods/

    http://bangordailynews.com/2010/11/08/news/state/state-police-work-to-identify-body-found-in-stacyville-woods/?ref=relatedBox




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    http://bangordailynews.com/2012/01/21/news/aroostook/discovery-of-decomposed-body-in-stacyville-remains-mystery-after-more-than-a-year/?ref=relatedBox
    Stacyville, ME would be about 32 miles south of Smyrna (where IK's sisters live), with a couple of alternatives for routes going north - I-95 and ME-11. Estimated date of death - September 2010.

    [ame="http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9754897&postcount=923"]http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9754897&postcount=923[/ame]
     
  4. Lucky 1

    Lucky 1 not all those who wander are lost....

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    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/feldman_debra.html

    http://www.nampn.org/cases/feldman_debra.html


    https://www16.state.nj.us/NJSP_Amber/DispatchAction.do;jsessionid=add05dd70602802a5c1c7a32ae50:2CHp?parameter=mp_detail&mp_id=443&type=mp
    4/1/2009: UPDATED: FBI Timeline - AK to Seattle
    Flew from Anchorage, AK to Seattle, WA on 4/1/2009.
    Rented a vehicle and drove 637 miles.

    4/7/2009: Flew from Seattle, WA to Manchester, NH on 4/7/2009.
    Rented a vehicle and put 1,047 miles on it.

    4/8 - 10/2009: Essex, VT
    "Keyes checks into Handy Suites in Essex on April 8 [2009] for a two-night stay."

    April 9, 2009: Keyes admitted to abducting a female victim from a state on the east coast and transported that person over multiple state lines into New York. The victim is buried in upstate New York. Investigators do not believe this victim is buried on the property Keyes owns in Constable, New York.
     
  5. Iwatchingeye

    Iwatchingeye Member

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    I absolutely agree 100% that Debra Feldman could be the victim from east coast state Aug 9th etc. As soon as FBI released latest info I felt she was the one but I wasn't a registered user but I was hoping one of you guys would suggest her. There is very little info on the circumstances of her disappearance but I think it would be important to know how she could have crossed paths with IK. What kind of life style did she lead? Where was she last seen? How do we find out more info? The investigators? The Family? I really believe she is the one but do not know where to go from here?
     
  6. Backwoods

    Backwoods New Member

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    Not that it's necessarily all that significant how it happened, but I keep wondering HOW investigators pinned IK down on the April 9, 2009 date ... that exact date. Did he volunteer it, or let something slip ... did investigators maybe have a suspicion and voiced it to him and he confirmed it...?
     
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    welcome Iwatchingeye.... :wagon:


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  8. digndoodle

    digndoodle New Member

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    Bambi Lyn Madden January 11, 2006

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59239"]NY NY - Bambi Madden, 31, Binghamton, 11 Jan 2006 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

    http://missingpersonsnews.com/binghamton-ny-woman-still-missing-after-nearly-seven-years/

    Map Link is from Constable NY to Binghamton NY

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=bing...byQrQId1VCS-yk1-i1IU_DLTDFlv5qLg8Ohlg&t=m&z=7


    Name: Bambi Lyn Madden

    Classification: Endangered Missing Adult
    Alias / Nickname: Bam Bam
    Date of Birth: 1971-06-21
    Date Missing: 2006-01-11
    From City/State: Binghamton, NY
    Missing From (Country): USA
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 31
    Gender: Female
    Race: White
    Height: 67 inches
    Weight: 115 pounds
    Hair Color: Blonde
    Eye Color: Hazel
    Complexion: Light
    Glasses/Contacts Description: Reading glasses.
    Identifying Characteristics: Tattoo of a "unicorn" on right thigh, tattoo of a "flower" on right shoulder, tattoo of a "rose" on right ankle, pierced ears.
    Clothing: Black "Polo" puffy coat, black jeans, black boots.
    Jewelry: Gold earrings, gold ring with red stone.

    Circumstances of Disappearance: Unknown. Bambi was last seen at approximately 11:00pm at her residence in the vicinity of Front and Oak in Binghamton, NY.
     
  9. Curious Me

    Curious Me Long-Time Member

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    Serial Killer Israel Keyes' Victims May Include Missing New Jersey Woman
    http://news.yahoo.com/serial-killer...ng-jersey-212501846--abc-news-topstories.html

    "Today, the FBI said they believe that woman may be (Debra) Feldman, a 48-year-old woman who was last seen on April 8, 2009."
     
  10. digndoodle

    digndoodle New Member

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    Bambi Lyn Madden...January 11 2006

    I have already posted this above but there is an update:and I feel she could have very well been one of IK's Victims
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    http://missingpersonsnews.com/binghamton-ny-woman-still-missing-after-nearly-seven-years/
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    Binghamton, NY (MPN) – On January 11, 2006, thirty-four year old Bambi Lyn Madden left her house at 29 Winding Way in Binghamton, NY, to walk to a nearby convenience store. Though it was 11pm, the petite blonde-haired, blue-eyed wife and mother of three, was just going to run down the road quick for beer. She set off with $5 in her pocket, wearing a pair of size 3 black jeans, a black medium-sized South Pole brand puffy jacket, and a pair of size 6 Timberland boots. It was a cold, dark January night in upstate NY, and one would expect anyone out walking in the weather would want to make their trek quickly. But hour after hour passed and eventually morning came, and still she had not returned. Bambi Lyn Madden had vanished in the night.
    What they do know is that, although she was known to frequent the Clinton Street bars “the Brass Rail Grill” and “Sara’s Pub”, nobody at either establishment recalls having seen her since the night she vanished. Having dredged the river and interviewed family members and friends repeatedly, police say all of their potential leads have been exhausted.

    Keyes was unaccounted for:
    February 11, 2006: Washington State Ferry - Port Townsend, Washington.

    April 22, 2006: Boat rental (Island Boat Rentals) - Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

    April 23, 2006: Hotel reservation (Travelers Inn) - Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
    __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    GGE, had already posted this on Webslueths forum of Bambi, wanted to bring it forward to this site!!!



    Map Link is from Constable NY to Binghamton NY

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=bingh...g8Ohlg&t=m&z=7
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  11. cynar

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    Backwoods, Keyes volunteered the Tupper Lake bank robbery during an interview when prosecutors were basically threatening that Vermont prosecutors needed a good-faith gesture in order to keep media silence and not locally prosecute for the Curriers. Keyes said he didn't remember the date, but that there was media coverage and security video. He said that, due to that same trip, "there's a body in New York." Therefore, prosecutors looked for missing persons cases around the date of the bank robbery. They knew the start and end dates because of airplane tickets from and back to Alaska. They also knew the rental car milage, giving a geographic circumference of possibility.
     
  12. LucyOso

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    October 6 - 16, 2004: Southwest Airlines flight (Seattle, Washington to Manchester, New Hampshire; round-trip).

    Vehicle rental (Enterprise); red Kia Amanti, license plate 1230139; Keyes drove 1,745 miles, had permission to leave state - Manchester, New Hampshire.


    Ok. So I did a really poor Google map of the distances/locations IK could go and return to NH. I picked a few major locations on the map about 800 miles away. I am not great at Google maps, sorry, I backtracked to NH each time so it wouldn't give me "short-cuts". Looking at the max radius he could travel could help pinpoint potential victims. I am sure he didn't drive to one place and back, but, it does help to narrow the search area. I didn't include Canada as there would (I think be a border crossing record-at least coming back in). IMOO, I am a visual person. Anyway, I couldn't get my attachments button to work, so you get a map!


    http://goo.gl/maps/2fXQF
     
  13. Iwatchingeye

    Iwatchingeye Member

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    I found this artical that has a little more information on Debra Feldman than I've been able to find anywhere such as street adress and other public record things. It has two persons that the FBI has ruled out as his victims. It also list two dates for these victim stating he was in Arkansas both dates so it ruled him out. On the timeline it only says Western USA. Could the Arkansas be a typo instead of Alaska or is there other info that has not been released yet?

    Please forgive if I have posted the link incorrectly it is my first time putting a link on here. Also should I post the part about Arkansas on the general discussion thread?

    http://www.northjersey.com/hackensack/NJ_womans_photo_caught_killers_eye_investigators_say.html?c=y&page=1
     
  14. Backwoods

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    Link worked great for me Iwatchingeye! Here's the timing info on those other two cases, from your link:

    http://www.northjersey.com/hackensa...killers_eye_investigators_say.html?c=y&page=2

    Confusing the abbreviations for Alaska and Arkansas is not uncommon, I'd say, so Arkansas could be an error, if someone was looking at the abbreviation when writing the story. But hold on -- gonna go see if the IK timelines help here ... be back with info.

    ETA: Looking at GGE's main timeline (first post here: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220907"]Israel Keyes Timelines *NO DISCUSSION* - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame] ),
    this is what I'm finding:

    For April 28, 2010:

    4/24 - 4/30, 2010: FBI Timeline - Western US
    FBI Timeline puts Keyes in the Western US between 4/24 - 4/30 2010


    So, for this one, IMO sure sounds like he could have been in Arkansas.



    For August 17, 2010:

    July 22, 2010: Alaska Airlines flight (Las Vegas, Nevada to Anchorage, Alaska).

    and


    7/20/2010: Anchorage, AK to Las Vegas, NV
    Flew from Anchorage, AK to Las Vegas, NV on 7/20/2010.
    No known rental vehicle.
    Left Las Vegas on 7/22/2010.


    October 15, 2010: Alaska Airlines flight (Anchorage, Alaska to Chicago, Illinois


    On this second one, there's a big gap (July to October) -- unless something has come out since this info of GGE's was compiled -- so, IMO, it is hard to say on that one.


     
  15. Backwoods

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    Iwatchingeye, I think further confirmation that the "Arkansas" on that April 28, 2010 date could be correct can be seen here, in a general timeline bessie posted to begin the "West" thread (note ESPECIALLY the dates I bolded in red):

    I know this is "West" and I don't think of Arkansas as being "West" ... exactly; but I have noticed that "West" seems to be a bit fluid in these timelines, as they develop. I do think Arkansas more likely (on that April 2010 date) than Alaska, because, well, usually when he was in Alaska we see a notation about him coming back there from somewhere, and then we see when he left again. (Usually...)

    The dates I bolded above, IF IF IF he was in Arkansas, led me to a case I think would certainly bear some scrutiny, but I don't know what "region" we are calling Arkansas in this forum, so -- I went ahead and posted a query about that in the IK General Discussion thread, explaining a little about your "find". Not trying at ALL to steal your thunder, I promise -- I gave you credit -- just wanting to see what others think about Arkansas so (if consensus is it's possible) I can bring that case I found up in the appropriate thread pronto!


    ETA: Another possibility -- "Arkansas" MAY have been a mistake in the article, but what should have been said may have been ARIZONA, rather than Alaska. (That would fit even better with West than Arkansas, IMO.)
     
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    Interesting. I don't read French, but just a quick Google Translate tells me that Catherine died in her apartment, which showed no signs of forced entry. She was assaulted and tied to her bed, then the place was set on fire. Seems the time between a phone conversation with a friend and the time the fire was reported was only about an hour -- so not a long window for the murder, most likely.
     
  18. Iwatchingeye

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    If you look at GGE timeline based on FBI published material this murder doesn't work within the timeline. It certainly sounds like him with the fire and all.


    December 11 - 17, 2008: Vehicle rental (Hertz) - Merida Yucatan, Mexico.

    December 11, 2008: Hotel reservation (Hotel Playa La Media Luna) - Isla Mujeres, Mexico.

    December 11 - 25, 2008: Alaska Airlines flight (Anchorage, Alaska to Cancun, Mexico; round-trip).

    December 20 - 25, 2008: Hotel reservation (Hotel Playa la Media Luna) - Isla Mujeres, Mexico.


    12/11/2008: Anchorage, AK to Cancún, Mexico
    Flew from Anchorage, AK to Cancun, Mexico on 12/11/2008.
    Rented a vehicle - mileage unknown.
    Left Cancun on 12/25/2008.

    Here is a link to a news report about her that is in english.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/police-looking-for-tips-in-rosemont-homicide-1.1086860
     
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    Bob Long was missing from NY on december 21, 2010.

    keyes was in big cities just a couple of months earlier (chicago and boston, both in october). he obviously was riding a city vibe in 2010. i would say yes, it's possible that he could be responsible for Long's disappearance.

    i'm skeptical of the timeline. it's possible that the timeline has missed dates of travel and / or other errors. it would be nice if an FBI agent was assigned to websleuths to work with us and help us. lol.
     
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    Good catch on that one. I don't know why I thought I saw 10/21 on the date he went missing, my mistake.
     

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