UK Eliza & Henrietta Huszti, sisters both 32, CCTV captures them near a river at 2am, Aberdeen, 7 Jan 2025.

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If the girls were intent on suicide why would they bother telling the landlord they were terminating their tenancy immediately?
It's all so strange.
I suppose they were just wanting to be considerate... makes me wonder if they also gave notice at their jobs. Seems like they would, for the same reasons they alerted the landlord. Just to not leave them high and dry, short-staffed, etc. Just to be polite.
 
Presser from 2 days ago with a very forthcoming articulate officer whose name is not addressed in video.
Maybe our local Aberdeen posters here know who he is and more about him.
Well worth the watch if you haven't already seen this and @ 5:40 he begins answering reporter's questions about the sister's mental health,landlord co-workers, friends, etc.
They've spoken to many people and nothing seemed off about them leading up to their disappearance.

 
You may be able to put a little bit by, but not much. It would take a decade.
Considering that they moved to Scotland about 10 years ago, this might therefore be exactly the time that they finally felt like they can start looking around for a home of their very own.
I mean, sure, they might have lied to the family. But just as well they might have not lied. We just don't know. Financial difficulties would for sure be a stressor for suicide and also increase the likelyhood of earning extra with illegal means. However, afaik, there has been no information in regards to them having any financial difficulties.
 
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Look closer (left hand) initially I thought she was shielding her face, but now I think she is talking on the phone.
Sadly I think the woman on the left in blue might have her hand up in a sort of rubbing forehead "what can I do?" gesture - or is perhpas wiping a tear from her eye?

But of course that is just an impression from a fairly low resolution photo of a faction of a second. Seeing the whole cctv video might show something else entirely.
 
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Considering that they moved to Scotland about 7 years ago, this might therefore be exactly the time that they finally felt like they can start looking around for a home of their very own.
I mean, sure, they might have lied to the family. But just as well they might have not lied. We just don't know. Financial difficulties would for sure be a stressor for suicide and also increase the likelyhood of earning extra with illegal means. However, afaik, there has been no information in regards to them having any financial difficulties.
They've been in Scotland for over 10 years, Aberdeen for 7.
 
Considering that they moved to Scotland about 7 years ago, this might therefore be exactly the time that they finally felt like they can start looking around for a home of their very own.
I mean, sure, they might have lied to the family. But just as well they might have not lied. We just don't know. Financial difficulties would for sure be a stressor for suicide and also increase the likelyhood of earning extra with illegal means. However, afaik, there has been no information in regards to them having any financial difficulties.
We don't know anything about the family dynamics.
They very well may have saved enough money to purchase their own home and didn't want to let family know there was a surplus of money in case there were prior money issues with the family.
We don't know why they left Hungary and relocated in Scotland.
I doubt it was for job opportunities since neither sister appears to have worked in a high end profession.
imo
 
They've been in Scotland for over 10 years, Aberdeen for 7.
Thank you, I fixed that!
Presser from 2 days ago with a very forthcoming articulate officer whose name is not addressed in video.

At 7:23 "No, there's nothing specific within the property to suggest they had either an intention to dissapear or an intention to do themselves harm."
The police is still looking more into the personal possessions (I assume that includes electronics), but so far there has been nothing to indicate either.
At 8:05 They lived together in a flat, there were no further tenants.
At 8:42 "We know that from their home address they've taken essentially a direct walking route through the city center to ultimately end up here at about 2:12. They haven't stopped at any premises, we don't think they were in the company of anyone else - they seem to have left their home address or the vincinity of their home address and walked in a direct line to this location here."
At 11:33 "No, no, we haven't found any personal possesions, we haven't found anything to indicate that they've been within the water, but that remains one of our working theories."
At 12:22 "We're working with appropriate specialists to try and understand what use there has been on the phones, but there is nothing that we have found that either causes us concern in that regard or anything that brings our inquieries beyond the point of last seen."
 
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Lots of conflating information, and of course it's only really the police that need to have the full facts. But it's hard given the police updates can in ways contradict their points.

- "Nothing specific within the property to suggest they had either an intention to disappear or an intention to do themselves harm", yet the landlord reported them missing due to some items/materials found in the property, having been told days prior of the sisters' intentions to end their contract and reported them missing by midday.
- They've tracked them walking directly to the riverside path, and then lost track of them thereafter.
- They've said all along its a missing persons case, no criminality involved, but they remain open to any possibilities. They must have been able to track all people in and out of that path in the hours/minutes before and after the sisters were there to eliminate any elements of a crime.
 
So sorry to hear that your daughter was a victim.
That's very kind, thank you. Trafficking is often poorly understood, I'm still learning.

It was a shocking turn in our family;
In March of 2020 my daughter and her husband were buying their first home, by June things were spiraling and there was a man actively trying to cleave her from her family and convince her they didn't care for her. It's a much longer story, but yes, it's possible for women in their 30's (or any age) to be duped, threatened, abused and forced into behavior that wouldn't otherwise be their normal. In our case the perpetrators were threatening my daughter with harming her children or myself (they threatened her with burning us alive, in 2023 her family's home burned down)


It's purely speculation but these ladies could IMO feel like they had to leave, either to escape, or to possibly comply with someone else's demands which would explain the short notice to vacate their lease, leaving all their possessions and the sudden middle of the night disappearance.
 
Thank you, I fixed that!

At 7:23 "No, there's nothing specific within the property to suggest they had either an intention to dissapear or an intention to do themselves harm."
The police is still looking more into the personal possessions (I assume that includes electronics), but so far there has been nothing to indicate either.
At 8:05 They lived together in a flat, there were no further tenants.
At 8:42 We know that from their home address they've taken essentially a direct walking route through the city center to ultimately end up here at about 2:12. They haven't stopped at any premises, we don't think they were in the company of anyone else - they seem to have left their home address or the vincinity of their home address and walked in a direct line to this location here.
At 11:33 No, no, we haven't found any personal possesions, we haven't found anything to indicate that they've been within the water, but that remains one of our working theories.
At 12:22 We're working with appropriate specialists to try and understand what use there has been on the phones, but there is nothing that we have found that either causes us concern in that regard or anything that brings out inquieries beyond the point of last seen.
@ 7:23
Why then would the landlord call police if there were no signs for the sister's safety or foul play found in their apartment when the landlord entered it?
The $64,000 question remains unanswered.

 
Lots of conflating information, and of course it's only really the police that need to have the full facts. But it's hard given the police updates can in ways contradict their points.

- "Nothing specific within the property to suggest they had either an intention to disappear or an intention to do themselves harm", yet the landlord reported them missing due to some items/materials found in the property, having been told days prior of the sisters' intentions to end their contract and reported them missing by midday.
- They've tracked them walking directly to the riverside path, and then lost track of them thereafter.
- They've said all along its a missing persons case, no criminality involved, but they remain open to any possibilities. They must have been able to track all people in and out of that path in the hours/minutes before and after the sisters were there to eliminate any elements of a crime.
Agree. I know police will always be privy to information that it is not necessary to have in the public domain, but I wonder if they are withholding information further to prevent a Nicola Bulley type frenzy around their disappearance. A few people have mentioned this upthread - that the police in that case were heavily criticised for revealing personal information about her mental health.

The only real ‘theory’ they have stated is that they entered the water. Surely if there was anything pointing to the involvement of others, they would release slightly more info. For example, more details regarding the exact route they took, their movements earlier in the day, specific items of clothing, more pictures etc. These would all provide police with more clues, whilst not intruding on their privacy or personal information.
 
[…] Lots of conflating information, and of course it's only really the police that need to have the full facts. But it's hard given the police updates can in ways contradict their points. […]
Yes. Had the sisters promised to vacate the apartment by the morning of 7th January, the landlady’s reaction would have been easier to understand. An agreement like that would explain the landlady’s sense of urgency and would also explain why personal possessions left in the apartment would cause alarm. What we know (public information) doesn’t quite make sense. The kicker is that the landlady’s apparently inexplicable reaction seems to have been the correct one. We don’t know why. Something significant is being held back, I imagine.
 
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I gather LE is familiar with the currents and the possible timeline along River Dee to the North Sea if they know that there's no blockages along the way that would impede that from happening?
Commercial boats in the harbour?
Just thinking out loud.
 
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Taking this with a pinch of salt also, because The Sun (and also a VERY strange article in general) but this is a curious detail I haven't seen elsewhere before:

"Officers have been unable to find any evidence they intended to harm themselves.
Cameras picked up audio that night that could be a woman screaming."


So it wasn't a person that heard screaming, but audio of screaming picked up on a camera.

I do hope the police are searching those buildings as well as the river.
 
That's very kind, thank you. Trafficking is often poorly understood, I'm still learning.

It was a shocking turn in our family;
In March of 2020 my daughter and her husband were buying their first home, by June things were spiraling and there was a man actively trying to cleave her from her family and convince her they didn't care for her. It's a much longer story, but yes, it's possible for women in their 30's (or any age) to be duped, threatened, abused and forced into behavior that wouldn't otherwise be their normal. In our case the perpetrators were threatening my daughter with harming her children or myself (they threatened her with burning us alive, in 2023 her family's home burned down)


It's purely speculation but these ladies could IMO feel like they had to leave, either to escape, or to possibly comply with someone else's demands which would explain the short notice to vacate their lease, leaving all their possessions and the sudden middle of the night disappearance.
O/t, you may be interested in this thread..
 
Taking this with a pinch of salt also, because The Sun (and also a VERY strange article in general) but this is a curious detail I haven't seen elsewhere before:

"Officers have been unable to find any evidence they intended to harm themselves.
Cameras picked up audio that night that could be a woman screaming."


So it wasn't a person that heard screaming, but audio of screaming picked up on a camera.

I do hope the police are searching those buildings as well as the river.

I think a strong emphasis should be put on 'could' (if that story is even true) At this time of year foxes make screaming noises which can sound like a person.
 
It must have been something important for the landlady to alert the police on the same day of a disappearance without reason and more so for the police to start looking almost immediately (which lays solely with what they left behind on purpose or not). When did the police start looking? The appeal was sent out January 9th and they went missing January 7th...In the UK isn't it 24/48/72 hours at least before police start an adult missing person search unless person(s) are vulnerable and/or other mitigating circumstances.

So - we have a note, a will, keys to the flat is a possibility as @Skigh implied. Maybe locking the door then putting both keys through letterbox OR more worrying leaving the door unlocked and leaving the keys in the house. I do think the police are treading carefully here due to past cases involving MH. So a note could be the most likely explanation as to why the police seem certain on their hypothesis, for now.
 
Taking this with a pinch of salt also, because The Sun (and also a VERY strange article in general) but this is a curious detail I haven't seen elsewhere before:

"Officers have been unable to find any evidence they intended to harm themselves.
Cameras picked up audio that night that could be a woman screaming."


So it wasn't a person that heard screaming, but audio of screaming picked up on a camera.

I do hope the police are searching those buildings as well as the river.
Perhaps people could hear screaming, and it might have been confirmed by audio from CCTV - if true, Superintendent was saying they were trying to get the audio from the nearest CCTV.
 
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