Extradition

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    Was Amanda Knox a political pawn in Italian politics?
    ...Now retired, Hellmann told La Stampa newspaper that he “foresaw” the reversal. Hellman said “the party of the prosecutor is very strong in the judiciary” and that political party had “influenced” the Italian Supreme Court, according to La Stampa.

    ...he told La Nazione newspaper that there was “a political background” to the case. It was directed squarely at Amanda Knox.
    Hellmann said, “Many wanted Amanda in prison because she was an American

    eta: But missing is a reading of the bilateral extradition treaty between the United States and Italy. Specifically, Article 5 of the treaty, which reads:
    “Extradition shall not be granted when the offense for which extradition is requested is a political offense/or if the person whose surrender is sought proves that the request for surrender has been made in order to try or punish him or her for a political offense.”

    ...Was Amanda Knox’s “political offense” the fact she was an American? And was her second “political offense” the possibility she became a pawn that two battling Italian political parties used to further their own agendas?

    These seem to be reasonable questions given Claudio Hellmann’s comments. They deserve answers. ​

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/was-amanda-knox-a-political-pawn-in-italian-politics/
     
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    Nope. These are NOT reasonable questions and do not deserve answers. The court has not reached the conclusion that the murder was politically motivated, neither has the sentencing been issued citing "Amanda Knox is an American." The sentence has been handed down citing "Amanda Knox is guilty of murder."

    I know Hellmann's reaching here and I don't blame him.

    But the US govt has no choice but to extradite AK if the Italian govt requests such.

    I know a lot of politicos will try to fight the extradition (to shine their own ratings and careers) blaming the awful, medieval, american-hating Italian justice system. Yet another circus is at hand ladies and gents.
     
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    more @ http://www.cbsnews.com/news/amanda-knox-and-double-jeopardy-does-it-matter-in-italy/
     
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    yes, thanks. that was an insightful interview: disclosing that the state department is closely monitoring the case, admitting that extradition is looked at on a "case by case basis" and reminding readers that there were several cases in recent history where the US denied extradition to requesting countries, despite treaties.
     
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    It's hard to tell what they are actually thinking, or what would actually be done, if the appeal is lost, and Nencini is upheld by the Supreme Court of Cassation. If/when Italy asked for extradition, it would become clear what the State Department really thought on the matter. Until then, they are quite noncommital.
     
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    The new thread is not replacing this one; just a separate new thread I was notifying you all about. ;)
     
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    I don't know about the US regulations regarding extradition but if the Italians are required to present their laughable "evidence" there is zero chance they will get the girl.
     
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    I don't know who will be making a ruling on the extradition here in the US (if it comes down to it).

    The way I see it, the US may not deny the extradition seeing how this would strain ties between the two countries (especially in this day an age when Euro countries and the US have been struggling to get on the same page with regards to trade, the on-going wars, phone tapping, etc).

    However, seeing how much support AK has in the US, politicians included in making this extradition decision will be under a lot of pressure. Politicians always put their careers first, so they may try to stop the extradition to get brownie-points with the AK supporters (who may also become potential voters); going with the whole gimmick of "Vote for the guy/gal who fought to save poor, innocent AK".
     
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    Is evidence shown at an extradition hearing??? If Italy request it I think it will be given.
    If not every killer in the world will head to the US... especially if they are the right kind of media 'person' IMO.

    Wonder how 'laughable evidence' got convictions.

    I don't see the 'support' of AK in the US... not for being innocent anyway. I see support.
     
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    I think what the supporters of the [modsnip] Italian clique fear the most is that impartial and rational eyes will take a close look at this outrageous fabricated case.

    This moment will come sooner or later. Nencini will have to write some explanation and the free media will tear it apart.
    If the Italians ask for extradition their farce of a case will get into spot light once again - the satanic rituals, the sex games, the mortal fights over feces in the loo. The ugly will get some air time, too - the multiple lies of the cops and prosecutors, destroying of evidence, coercive and illegal interrogations, withholding exculpatory evidence, Stefanoni lying repeatedly in the courtroom, evidence conjured out of thin air after the arrests, evidence that conveniently get destroyed preventing any independent testing.
     
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    I think the US might be willing to extradite Knox should the conviction be upheld. The US is trying to get hold of Assange and Snowden and therefore needs to be seen to be consistent in these matters. I know the cases are very different, but if the US ignores or refuses Knox's extradition, it won't help their chances of getting hold of Assange or Snowden.

    The politics are complex.

    Edit: I see Dershowitz makes the point about Snowden in the New Republic article linked above.
     
  19. LinasK

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    Didn't somebody post on the last General thread that extradition proceedings had begun?:please:
     
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    Extradition can not begin until the final judgement. Italian SC verifying ruling made by N.

    :jail:
     
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    Has America asked for the extradition of Julian Assange? Sweden is currently asking for his extradition to stand trial on rape charges, I'm not aware that the US has made any attempt to extradite him.

    Putin won't give up Snowden regardless of what happens with Amanda Knox.
     
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