FBI considering hate crime charges against Zimmerman #1

Discussion in 'George Zimmerman Trial/Trayvon Martin' started by JBean, May 14, 2012.

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  1. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    IF you are describing Miami Mexican street gangs, then YES, it is linked. Just like Crips and Bloods are usually black, and skinheads are usually white.
     


  2. Lovelymountains

    Lovelymountains New Member

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    How 'bout hosing down some children on bicycles? Not for the children's safety, I think. In fact, it was assault and he could have been prosecuted for it. But then, he's a man who likes to take things into his own little hands.
     
  3. Velouria

    Velouria Active Member

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    Maxim New Member

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    Could you provide a link to the full story of this? I haven't read anything about it. TIA
     
  5. Lovelymountains

    Lovelymountains New Member

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    Walking around with a 100 pound dog, a Rottweiler, really disturbs me. Taafe several times mentioned GZ's walking with his big dog and the thing I inferred from that was that the dog somehow figured into his "Patrolling." (And that's what Taafe called it!) Would he sic the dog on someone whom he perceived to be up to no good or looking around? Was the dog a trained attack dog? I love dogs and have one myself. And certainly, if the complex allowed pets, GZ was within his rights to walk his dog. But the words "100 lb Rottweiler" and George Zimmerman "Patrolling" somehow makes me uneasy.
     
  6. Velouria

    Velouria Active Member

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    I wasn't aware that GZ was describing members of a Miami street gang, was he?

    I can't say I've ever heard anyone described as a "white skinhead". Seems rather redundant.
     
  7. Lovelymountains

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    No, but it was discussed at length earlier on this forum. I think when we had only one thread.
     
  8. gxm

    gxm Active Member

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    I think the incident you are referring to is undocumented rumor (the story about him spraying the bullies with a water hose), as there is no official report on file about it. IMO, I tend to take these stories with a grain of salt.

    JMO, OMO, and MOO
     
  9. suzihawk

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    Ahh... hosing the children on bikes. This was discussed at length quite some ago. It didnt' end well.

    As the story goes, a child was being bullied by others and Zimmerman hosed the alleged bullies down every time they rode their bikes on the sidewalk in front of his house.
     
  10. Karmady

    Karmady Former Member

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    No, obviously the opposite of that, imo. George described these particular criminals as Mexican b/c not all criminals are Mexican and not all Mexicans are criminals -- but the ones George saw messing with people's cars and pulling knives were both criminals and Mexicans.
     
  11. Lovelymountains

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    And of the two who broke into that young mother's home, neither was Trayvon Martin and he is not to be blamed for that. Neither should he be killed for it.
     
  12. Karmady

    Karmady Former Member

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    And after the diversion was completed, the charges were withdrawn and the case dismissed. The Nolle Prosequi record was posted by someone here a while ago and it was discussed

    eta: It was post 504 on the closed "cries for help" thread
     
  13. Lovelymountains

    Lovelymountains New Member

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    I don't see a problem with statements like mine. Sorry.
     
  14. suzihawk

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    So that means he didn't commit the felony that he copped a plea to???
     
  15. Karmady

    Karmady Former Member

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    It means that the charges were dismissed.
     
  16. Lovelymountains

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    The only thing GZ said in the call was not that he came up to GZ's vehicle, but "He's checking me out." I don't think that means he came up to the vehicle or that he circled the vehicle three times, or even once. IMO the fact that the video from the club hasn't been released and the 7-11 video was released, is that there is something on that video from the club which someone, and IMO it's MO'M doesn't want made public. In any case, if there is a video from the club and if it were pointed in the direction of GZ's vehicle, it will tell the tale.
     
  17. Velouria

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    You beat me to it. Just doesn't seem fair to put someone through all that for an offense they never committed, does it? :)
     
  18. LambChop

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    It was all the ATF agent's fault because he didn't identify himself to GZ. As if he were required to introduce himself to GZ before he made an arrest. The only person that ATF agent was concerned about was the person he was about to arrest and I'll bet he did identify himself. Regardless of his excuse, GZ had no right to put his hands on anyone. Obviously the person getting arrested knew who the agent was because he did not resist.

    I believe it is SOP for government law enforcement agencies to identify themselves right away because they are in plain clothes, including the FBI, because of the fact they are afraid they'll be shot by mistake.

    But, pssst, psst, pssst...I think we are headed off topic. jmo
     
  19. suzihawk

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    I see. So the crime never happened then.
     
  20. persnickety

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    Are you serious? He really had the audacity to hose children down while they were riding their bikes? Was this information from a previous article?



    my opinion
     
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