FBI considering hate crime charges against Zimmerman #1

Discussion in 'George Zimmerman Trial/Trayvon Martin' started by JBean, May 14, 2012.

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  1. Dr.Fessel

    Dr.Fessel New Member

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    Got you! If you had just snipped a little more of her quote we would have not had that problem. TY Noiter. I thought one of us was going nuts. LOL LOL
     


  2. ariesgodofwar

    ariesgodofwar New Member

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    Because Duane (Dog) has a felony conviction from his younger days and is not allowed to possess a firearm under Federal Law. I have a very good friend who is a former Police Officer and is now a Bounty Hunter (owns his own business), and I assure you, he always carries 2 firearms on him at all times, especially when Bounty Hunting.
     
  3. LambChop

    LambChop Former Member

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    LE can't arrest someone without a reason. Walking while black is not a crime. GZ had no right to touch TM, to try to detain TM, TM did not have to answer his questions and certainly did not have to stop for GZ. TM had the same freedoms as GZ. GZ had no right, no authority to take that away from him.

    The thread is about GZ who has no legal authority to just walk up to someone and arrest them for no reason. There is no law that states that you can do that. jmo
     
  4. AJ Noiter

    AJ Noiter Little Bunny FooFoo

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    And we go back to the out-of-context replies.
     
  5. Lovelymountains

    Lovelymountains New Member

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    There's an old Andy Griffith episode where Gomer Pyle stops someone and yells, "Citizen's Arr-est, citizen's arr-est." I have a picture in my mind of George Zimmerman doing that and being as ridiculous as Gomer Pyle was.
    George Zimmerman had no right to stop TM for any imagined reason, for not liking his looks, for not liking his color, for not liking his clothing or any reason whatsoever since TM was walking on a sidewalk doing nothing illegal. It was Zimmerman who was acting illegally and I hope he is prosecuted for violating TM's civil rights, the most basic of which is the right to life, to which he was entitled just as much as George Zimmerman.
     
  6. suzihawk

    suzihawk New Member

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    Loved Gomer Pyle! Just to add a little sorely needed levity...


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9efgLHgsBmM"]Citizens Arrest - YouTube[/ame]
     
  7. deelytful1

    deelytful1 *~a mere mortal~*

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    Is he licensed by the state for the work he does? Or does he just go around catching any bad guy he wants to? (Your "friend" that is) I only ask because the assumption being made previously was that this is a "citizen's arrest" when i know for a fact bounty hunters have to be trained, licensed and sometimes deputized. TIA
     
  8. AJ Noiter

    AJ Noiter Little Bunny FooFoo

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    Not all states require a bounty hunter to be licensed, just as not all states allow citizen's arrest (thus, no bounty hunters per se - off duty police officers mostly).
     
  9. deelytful1

    deelytful1 *~a mere mortal~*

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    That's definitely news to me.... ((smh))
     
  10. LambChop

    LambChop Former Member

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    And bonded. jmo
     
  11. Maxim

    Maxim New Member

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    How can you follow someone you can't see, someone who ran out of sight?

    Did GZ walk to the next street? (Seems there was time to do that.) If he did, he wasn't persuing TM, he was looking for TM--looking to see if he left the area. TM didn't go that way, unless he ran around that building and doubled back to the area between the buildings--where they were observed fighting.
     
  12. deelytful1

    deelytful1 *~a mere mortal~*

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    Florida

    In Florida you must obtain your "limited surety agent" license from the Florida Department of Financial Services, Bureau of Agent and Agency Licensing, in order to legally apprehend bail fugitives.

    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounty_hunter"]Bounty hunter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    I hate to quote Wikipedia but "WHEW" glad bounty hunters here need at least SOME licensing!

    Read more: Florida Citizen's Arrest Laws | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_7258531_florida-citizen_s-arrest-laws.html#ixzz1vYmlJwPR

    Guess GZ superceded his rights in a citizen's arrest as well...
     
  13. AJ Noiter

    AJ Noiter Little Bunny FooFoo

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    By all accounts Mr. Zimmerman lost sight of Trayvon. I'm not sure what your alluding to here. In context, what I stated was in reply to someone saying "Mr. Martin was killed because Mr. Zimmerman followed him" - or something along those lines. With context in mind, aren't you agreeing with what I said, even though it's done argumentatively?
     
  14. AJ Noiter

    AJ Noiter Little Bunny FooFoo

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    The only ones to make claim that Mr. Zimmerman was in any way trying to detain Mr. Martin are the supporters of the State of Florida. <modsnip>
     
  15. i.b.nora

    i.b.nora I am polka dot

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    All this debate junk is getting tedious.
     
  16. Maxim

    Maxim New Member

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    BBM
    Yes, it was supporting. It was intended in a calm, polite tone . . . but I couldn't find a calm, polite icon.
     
  17. beach

    beach Verified Expert

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    What thread am I on again???
     
  18. ynotdivein

    ynotdivein Retired WS Staff

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    :peeks head out to look at label on wall:

    FBI considering hate crimes charges.


    Ok then, carry on...
     
  19. flourish

    flourish Now With 30% More Emo

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    Yeah, there are several suspect items in that article being fed to us;)

    Emphasis mine. Well, we know someone who made several reports...but I don't find him particularly credible.

    Again, hmm...someone witnessed this, did they? I admit I haven't been able to keep all the witnesses of everything straight in this case, so perhaps someone might enlighten me, but this sounds hinky to me.

    etc.
     
  20. Karmady

    Karmady Former Member

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    I haven't had 8 burglaries over ALL of the neighborhoods I've ever lived in in my ENTIRE LIFE. If there were 8 burglaries in my tiny gated community in 14 months, I would be moving...pronto. That's a riduculous number of crimes in a small area over a very short period of time by any reasonable law-abiding person's standards, imo.

    And the article says that the dozens of attempted break-ins (as opposed to completed burglaries) were reported by residents, not just by George. I'm sayin' it doesn't sound even slightly unlikely that George got his bike stolen off the patio under the circumstances. In fact, it sounds mighty likely. It really makes me sick that there were that many crimes and attempted crimes in a single small neighborhood over a short period of time and the attitude is, oh, no big...go get yerself an alarm system and hope they hit your neighbors instead of you.
     
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