...Does anyone else think that any of this is odd...irresponsible...or?? 1. How can you be on public assistance...welfare, Medicaid, WIC, Section 8 housing or whatever, and own God knows how many electronic toys, 3 computers, 2 VX's (UNBELIEVABLE), cars (didn't he have a motorcycle too?), a ton of expensive automotive and other accessories, expensive clothes...are these not reported as ASSETS when you fill out the aid forms....doesn't someone check on this?? I drive a used truck, my husband drives an ANCIENT truck, and my husband is an engineer for God's sake...we have no "state of the art" electronics - meaning our computers are not new...I bought hubby a PDA AT A GARAGE SALE..., and we do not have a TV in the living room... 2. How can you with good conscience accept financial and food assistance from your church, if you own all of this material crap that you could sell to get money for food things for the baby, etc. 3. All of this stuff must have been on credit; there is no way these people could have made the payments on any of this, along with rent, etc. Who would give high credit lines for all of this stuff to someone like Raven? NCBanker - help me out with my estimates here, please: Edited to say that I am asking for your help because of your financial expertise, and because you live in the area...I am a Northerner...some things are more expensive up here!! Rent and utilities...had to be at least $600/month, could be as high as $900/month....car payment...$250 - 300/month, motorcycle payment another $250 - 300/month...VX payments$600/month at least (for 2 of them)...food - minimum $500/month...credit card payments for accessories, clothes, etc. - minimum $50-100/month....plus phone bill cable bill, etc. How could they come up with this, with the type of jobs they had? ...What a nightmare; Janet must have been scared out of her mind!