FL - 17 killed in Stoneman Douglas H.S. shooting, Parkland, 14 Feb 2018 #4 *Arrest*

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    Official: Parkland shooting suspect's mother let him buy gun

    "SUNRISE, Fla. (AP) — Mental health counselors told the mother of Florida school shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz she shouldn’t let him buy guns, but she ignored their concerns and he began assembling an arsenal before her death last year, officials said Tuesday.

    Lynda Cruz was “an enabler” who interfered with efforts to get her son treatment, Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri, chairman of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Commission, told members....

    The commission is scheduled to discuss Cruz’s mental health treatment in a closed session Thursday because those records are protected by federal and state law...."

    Official: Parkland shooting suspect's mother let him buy gun
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    Officials Fighting Release Of Parkland Shooting Videos
    The videos may show officers who’ve been criticized for failing to engage the alleged gunman.

    "Roughly five months have passed since Florida’s deadly Parkland school shooting, and the public has yet to see exterior video surveillance footage that may shed light on the actions of law enforcement.

    On Tuesday during a hearing before the Florida Fourth District Court of Appeal in West Palm Beach, a school board attorney and a lawyer representing the Broward state attorney argued against releasing the videos, The Miami Herald reported.

    The school board attorney reportedly said releasing footage from the Feb. 14 attack, which authorities say was carried out by former student Nikolas Cruz, would jeopardize the “integrity” of security at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

    The state attorney’s lawyer argued that the footage is “criminal investigative information” and therefore exempt from public records laws...."

    Officials Fighting Release Of Parkland Shooting Videos | HuffPost
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    Florida gun, mental laws couldn’t have stopped massacre

    "...Robin Sparkman, chief of the state’s Firearm Eligibility Bureau, told the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Commission that even if Cruz had been subjected to an involuntary, three-day mental health evaluation under a state law called the Baker Act, he still could have bought the AR-15 allegedly used in the Feb. 14 massacre.

    Under state law before the shooting, only if Cruz, 19, had been adjudicated mentally ill by a judge or convicted of a felony would he have been ineligible to buy a gun. Cruz was never committed under the Baker Act, convicted of a crime or adjudicated mentally ill.

    “So many people think the Baker Act is a magic wand – that the Baker Act cures and fixes all. The Baker Act doesn’t,” said Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri, the commission’s chairman. “The Baker Act is a temporary custody status for assessment. Rarely does the Baker Act result in any treatment. People think that if Cruz had been Baker Acted that this wouldn’t have happened. That is flat-out erroneous. Whether he would have been Baker Acted or not is another one of those things that would have had little or no impact on what happened.”..."

    Florida gun, mental laws couldn’t have stopped massacre
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    Official: 911 issues delayed response to Fla. school massacre

    "SUNRISE, Fla. (AP) — The sheriff overseeing an investigation into the Florida school massacre defended a law enforcement official Thursday who oversaw the initial response and was criticized for not ordering deputies to immediately charge into the building and stop the gunman.

    Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri, chairman of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Commission, told members that Broward County sheriff's Capt. Jan Jordan's response was crippled by the county's radio system. The system became overwhelmed as dozens of first responders broadcast information and it started blocking new transmissions...."

    Official: 911 issues delayed response to Fla. school massacre
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    the cases underscore criticism of the Baker Act system that has persisted for years — that too many people cycle through with little or no follow-up treatment, including those who are seriously ill.

    Of nearly 195,000 Floridians taken into custody for a Baker Act evaluation in fiscal year 2015-2016, the most recent data available, most were released with no follow-up.

    In Central Florida, no more than a fifth of those cases make it to a court hearing on whether to require further treatment, and Miami-Dade County Judge Steve Leifman says that, statewide, less than 2 percent are ultimately deemed a danger to themselves or others and committed to mental hospitals.

    These folks who are so sick are just recycling through a failed system

    then you add guns and access to guns and you get the perfect storm

    Most people walk out within an hour. It’s horrifying.” (they have to say yes in order to go further. most are very sick but no when they get to the unit if they don't say yes i am suicidal or yes i want to harm people they must be released - they must verbalize it at admission. This usually occurs hours after the actual transport

    hundreds of people of all ages have undergone repeated Baker Act evaluations — some more than 35 times each.

    “The difficulty with involuntary placement is that the standard is having “clear and convincing evidence” — which is a really high threshold

    they only look at the immediate situation. So the doctor may say, ‘Well, he’s stable now,’ but he is only maybe stable until he gets out and stops taking the medication.”

    Outpatient services can be expensive or have long waiting lists.

    Florida's Baker Act — a revolving door?)
     
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    On discharge paperwork it goes like this:

    Pt will attend therapy 1x per week .

    poop thats it

    they dont go - its that simple

    I think a lot of us skew older! And have some notion that there is long term residential treatments . There is not in FL

    In other localities there may be more options
     
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    Commission learning what caused and didn't cause massacre

    CRUZ'S MENTAL HEALTH

    The commission received details of Cruz's mental health treatment behind closed doors Thursday — those records are protected by state and federal law — but glimpses emerged during open testimony. Gualtieri told members that counselors had at least 140 contacts with Cruz over the years trying to get him help, but his late mother frequently interfered. When a counselor objected to Cruz's desire to buy a gun, Gualtieri said Lynda Cruz said he could purchase one and after he turned 18 helped him get the necessary state identification card.
    ...............................................

    BBM

    There is a part of me, down really deep, that wonders if Lynda Cruz did the same exact thing that Nancy Lanza did with her son Adam Lanza.
     
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    WATCH LIVE: Hearing in the case of accused Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooter Nikolas Cruz, rescheduled from June.

    ABC7 Sarasota - WWSB
     
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    Tentative trial date set for Nikolas Cruz (with clip)
    Judge needs 10 days to decide on releasing Cruz statement after shooting

    PARKLAND, Fla. —
    The judge in the Nikolas Cruz case heard a laundry list of items on the docket in a Broward County courtroom Monday....

    Cruz is charged with 17 counts of first-degree murder. He faces the death penalty if convicted.

    His attorneys say he would plead guilty in exchange for a life prison sentence, but that's something the state attorney has already rejected. The judge also set a tentative trial timeline for September 2019.

    Attorneys on both sides are asking for more time."

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    Judge orders partial release of Parkland shooting confession

    July 27, 2018

    "....Broward County Circuit Court Jude Elizabeth Anne Scherer ruled Thursday that Cruz and his lawyers cannot keep parts of his video-recorded confession private just because his case has generated publicity. Defense lawyers said the confession could unfairly sway jurors.

    "No evidence was shown that public disclosure ... would result in a serious and imminent threat to the administration of justice in this case," she wrote.

    Scherer gave the defense 10 days to appeal her ruling...."

    Judge orders partial release of Parkland shooting confession
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    Broward Schools will ask state Supreme Court to block release of Stoneman security videos

    July 27, 2018

    "An appeals court on Friday delayed an order forcing the release of school surveillance footage recorded the day of the Parkland school shooting in order to allow Broward County Public Schools the time to file an appeal with the Florida Supreme Court.

    The Fourth District Court of Appeal had ordered this week that the surveillance footage from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School be released Friday, upholding a lower court ruling in favor of the Miami Herald and other media outlets that sued months ago in order to force the release of the video. The footage — showing the moments immediately after the Feb. 14 shooting that left 17 people dead — may shed light on what law enforcement officers did as Nikolas Cruz gunned down students and staff in the freshman building before fleeing campus....

    The footage subject to Friday’s decision does not include video from the freshman building where the shooting took place. It is separate from video released months ago by order of a judge showing the actions of former BSO deputy Scot Peterson, the school resource officer who resigned after failing to enter the building where Cruz attacked."

    Broward Schools will ask state Supreme Court to block release of Stoneman security videos
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    Texas Schools Arresting More of Their Students After Parkland and Santa Fe School Shootings
    A report by Texas Appleseed shows that schools are falling back on a zero-tolerance approach that has proven to be harmful to students.

    "In the aftermath of a tragedy like a school shooting, one of the first things people try to figure out is what can be done to prevent another such tragedy. That routine happened again following two prominent school shootings this year. The shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida on February 14 left seventeen people dead. On May 18, ten people were killed at Santa Fe High School in Texas. At the end of May, Governor Greg Abbott published a “School and Firearm Safety Action Plan” and lawmakers, including the Select Committee on Violence in Schools and School Security, began hearings to address school violence. Meanwhile, many Texas schools responded to the issue of school violence by simply arresting more of their students, according to a report by Texas Appleseed, a nonprofit for social and economic justice.

    The report, titled “Collateral Consequences, The Increase in Texas Student Arrests Following the Parkland and Santa Fe Tragedies,” documents a sharp increase in the number of referrals to the Texas Juvenile Justice Department for students charged with either “terroristic threat” or “exhibition of a firearm.”..."

    https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/arrests-texas-students-increased-parkland-santa-fe-school-shootings/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The State of Texas 07-31-18&utm_content=The State of Texas 07-31-18+CID_4568dbe2c432602c51908da1e21a36cc&utm_source=Campaign Monitor&utm_term=Read more
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    Collateral Consequences
    The Increase in Texas Student Arrests Following the Parkland and Santa Fe Tragedies

    Collateral Consequences
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    Defense moves again to block school district report on Parkland school shooter

    July 31, 2018

    "Lawyers for the Parkland school shooter want the judge handling his criminal case to block the release of a report based on his school records — a release authorized by another judge last week....

    Broward Circuit Judge Elizabeth Scherer is handling the criminal case; Cruz faces the death penalty if convicted. But the school district asked a civil court judge, Patti Englander Henning, to make the report public because it is not a product of the criminal investigation into Cruz’s actions.

    That didn’t stop Cruz’s defense lawyers from asking Englander Henning to withhold the report from the public, while lawyers for the South Florida Sun Sentinel and other media outlets argued that it is a public record that should not be hidden from view.

    The judge decided last week that most of it should be released. Portions that violate Cruz’s privacy rights were to be blacked out.

    Now lawyers are set to appear Friday morning before Scherer. In court papers filed late Monday, Cruz’s criminal defense lawyers argue that he was not properly represented by civil counsel during the hearing before Englander Henning....

    Cruz’s lawyers have until the end of this week to decide whether to appeal the release of the confession."

    Defense moves again to block school district report on Parkland school shooter
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    Texas Schools Arresting More of Their Students After Parkland and Santa Fe School Shootings
    A report by Texas Appleseed shows that schools are falling back on a zero-tolerance approach that has proven to be harmful to students.

    "In the aftermath of a tragedy like a school shooting, one of the first things people try to figure out is what can be done to prevent another such tragedy. That routine happened again following two prominent school shootings this year. The shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida on February 14 left seventeen people dead. On May 18, ten people were killed at Santa Fe High School in Texas. At the end of May, Governor Greg Abbott published a “School and Firearm Safety Action Plan” and lawmakers, including the Select Committee on Violence in Schools and School Security, began hearings to address school violence. Meanwhile, many Texas schools responded to the issue of school violence by simply arresting more of their students, according to a report by Texas Appleseed, a nonprofit for social and economic justice.

    The report, titled “Collateral Consequences, The Increase in Texas Student Arrests Following the Parkland and Santa Fe Tragedies,” documents a sharp increase in the number of referrals to the Texas Juvenile Justice Department for students charged with either “terroristic threat” or “exhibition of a firearm.”..."

    https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/a...tm_source=Campaign Monitor&utm_term=Read more
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    Collateral Consequences
    The Increase in Texas Student Arrests Following the Parkland and Santa Fe Tragedies

    Collateral Consequences
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    Redacted portions of Cruz report paint portrait of disturbed student (with clip)
    Nikolas Cruz swung wildly between improvement and decline

    August 04, 2018

    "PARKLAND, Fla. - Redacted portions of a report on the Parkland gunman's time in the Broward school system paint a portrait of a deeply troubled student who showed signs of progress only to slide back into old behaviors.

    Throughout the more than 15 years Nikolas Cruz spent in the Broward County school system, staff members reported violent outbursts and antisocial behavior, but others noted periods where Cruz's behavior and academic performance markedly improved. ...

    The redacted portions of the report provided a detailed narrative of Cruz's time in school from prekindergarten to just before the Valentine's Day mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School that left 17 people dead and more than a dozen others wounded....

    At one point, Lynda Cruz asked the district if he could return to Cross Creek School, where had excelled, but the district determined Cruz was no longer eligible for the program.

    The overall report cites this as one of the school district's biggest mistakes in regards to Cruz. Without access to counseling, Cruz's life deteriorated. ..."

    Redacted portions of Cruz report paint portrait of disturbed student
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    The report, commissioned by the district and conducted by the Collaborative Educational Network of Tallahassee:

    https://media.local10.com/document_dev/2018/08/03/CEN Report-Redacted_12457302_ver1.0.pdf
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    Parkland school shooter told detective he heard a demon in his head, transcript shows (with clip)

    August 7, 2018

    "(CNN)Marjory Stoneman Douglas school shooter Nikolas Cruz told a detective shortly after the February massacre that a voice in his head the night before the shooting told him to hurt people....

    Several times when the detective left the room, Cruz spoke to himself saying, "Kill me. Just (expletive) kill me. (expletive)."

    Another time, Cruz said, "I want to die. At the end you're nothing but worthless (expletive) dude. You deserve to die because you're (expletive) worthless and you (expletive) (unintelligible) everyone. I want to die."

    'Demon' in his head

    Cruz spoke to the detective about what he called a demon in his head, according to the transcript of the interview. Cruz said the voice told him to do bad things, including the night before the shooting. He said it was the voice that told him to buy the AR-15 and to take an Uber ride to Marjory Stoneman Douglas the day of the shooting.

    The detective asked Cruz what the demon told him to do. Cruz answered, "Burn. Kill. Destroy."

    He told the detective that he sometimes used the drug Xanax and marijuana to make the voice go away.

    Cruz said the voice was talking to him while he was there in the interrogation room, telling him to kill himself...."

    Nikolas Cruz, the Parkland shooter, recorded plans on cell phone - CNN
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    Here's what Broward schools knew about Parkland shooter — details revealed by mistake (with clip)

    August 4, 2018

    "In the year leading up to the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, killer Nikolas Cruz was stripped of the therapeutic services disabled students need, leaving him to navigate his schooling as a regular student despite mounds of evidence that he wasn’t.

    When he asked to return to a special education campus, school officials fumbled his request.

    Those conclusions were revealed Friday in a consultant’s report commissioned by the Broward public school system....

    In part because of the errors, Cruz had no school counseling or other special education services in the 14 months leading up to the shooting on Feb. 14, the report says....

    The long-awaited analysis largely absolves the district of culpability, minimizing mistakes as “compliance concerns” and noting the analysis was not done “through the lens of hindsight.”...

    Cruz’s attorneys called the report a “whitewash” commissioned by the school district to clear it of responsibility for how it handled Cruz’s complex psychological problems.

    “I think that the report is an attempt by the school board to absolve itself of any liability or responsibility for all the missed opportunities that they had in this matter,” said Gordon Weekes, the chief assistant public defender who is the spokesman for the defense team...."

    Here's what Broward schools knew about Parkland shooter — details revealed by mistake
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