GUILTY FL - 17 killed in Stoneman Douglas High School shooting, Parkland, 14 Feb 2018 #4 *Arrest*

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I have zero sympathy for the officer who is being charged for his behavior during the shooting. The fact that he was allowed to retire with full benefits was mind boggling.

These guys get tons of extra benefits, more pay, opportunities for overtime pay, when they provide security for football games, things that regular teachers are "expected" to show up for, without extra pay.

His job is to provide protection and security when stuff like this happens. Not to run and hide, when he is the ONLY adult who has a weapon on the school grounds. He could have easily tracked Cruz, and at least attempted an intervention.

He was there, padding his pension for his "high three years". Not to actually do his job.

Scot Peterson’s pension — $8,702 a month — is on the line in criminal case
 

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Parkland killer’s legal team wants prosecutor tossed over ‘worse than Ted Bundy’ comment

SEPTEMBER 04, 2019

"Defense lawyers for Nikolas Cruz want to boot Broward State Attorney Mike Satz off the case for refusing to even entertain waiving the death penalty — and because they say he called the Parkland school shooter “evil; worse than Ted Bundy.”

Cruz’s lawyers, in a motion filed recently, argue that Satz and his office should be disqualified from the case because they won’t consider “mitigation,” or details of Cruz’s life story that might sway prosecutors to drop the death penalty as a possible punishment for fatally shooting 17 students and staffers in February 2018.

“The State Attorney’s determination that Mr. Cruz is evil does not appear to be a reasoned decision but instead a decision based on caprice and emotion,” the Broward Public Defender’s office wrote in a motion to disqualify Satz and his entire office from the case.

No hearing date has been set for Broward Circuit Judge Elizabeth Scherer to consider the request. If granted, prosecutors from another county would have to be appointed to handle the case.

Cruz has a routine court hearing on Monday, although it was unclear if Judge Scherer would entertain the request then. The State Attorney’s Office plans to issue a written response. “We will be opposing the motion, but reserve further comment for the courtroom and court documents,” according to a State Attorney’s spokeswoman...."

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article234699907.html
 

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Parkland dad uncovers how district enabled deranged student-turned-shooter

https://nypost.com/2019/09/08/parkl...e-if-district-hadnt-enabled-deranged-student/

On Sept. 13, 2013, Lindsay e-mailed teachers to inform them that if Cruz “needs to leave the class to use the restroom, go to the clinic, or any other reason please notify the front office and wait for a security escort. Under no circumstances should Nickolas [sic] be allowed to leave a supervised setting without an escort.”

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This is just so sick to think that a deranged individual was/is allowed in public school. They knew and allowed him to stay.
 

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Parkland dad uncovers how district enabled deranged student-turned-shooter

https://nypost.com/2019/09/08/parkl...e-if-district-hadnt-enabled-deranged-student/

On Sept. 13, 2013, Lindsay e-mailed teachers to inform them that if Cruz “needs to leave the class to use the restroom, go to the clinic, or any other reason please notify the front office and wait for a security escort. Under no circumstances should Nickolas [sic] be allowed to leave a supervised setting without an escort.”

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This is just so sick to think that a deranged individual was/is allowed in public school. They knew and allowed him to stay.

The problem is the fact that Cruz probably was identified as "disabled", with an Individualized Education Plan, (IEP). It makes the ability to "kick him out" much more complicated.

That being said, there was much that could have been done, and probably should have been done. However, he didn't have a criminal record, or it seems like any other significant violent activity. They couldn't just ship him to another school situation without a bunch of reasons and justifications. He hadn't shot up the school yet.

Hadn't he graduated or been kicked out of school by the time of the shooting? I thought that he was couch surfing with a friend, because he was homeless (?), his Mother had died...
 

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The problem is the fact that Cruz probably was identified as "disabled", with an Individualized Education Plan, (IEP). It makes the ability to "kick him out" much more complicated.

That being said, there was much that could have been done, and probably should have been done. However, he didn't have a criminal record, or it seems like any other significant violent activity. They couldn't just ship him to another school situation without a bunch of reasons and justifications. He hadn't shot up the school yet.

Hadn't he graduated or been kicked out of school by the time of the shooting? I thought that he was couch surfing with a friend, because he was homeless (?), his Mother had died...

I imagine that it was very well to do parents who pressured to have the rules re students with issues to remain in classrooms.

People want their children to be with others. I doubt that teachers are happy to have these dangerous students nor are school administrators. Their hands are tied by the laws
 

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Parkland dad uncovers how district enabled deranged student-turned-shooter

https://nypost.com/2019/09/08/parkl...e-if-district-hadnt-enabled-deranged-student/

On Sept. 13, 2013, Lindsay e-mailed teachers to inform them that if Cruz “needs to leave the class to use the restroom, go to the clinic, or any other reason please notify the front office and wait for a security escort. Under no circumstances should Nickolas [sic] be allowed to leave a supervised setting without an escort.”

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This is just so sick to think that a deranged individual was/is allowed in public school. They knew and allowed him to stay.

Wow!!! The behavior described in that behavioral assessment is extremely disturbing and he should've been locked away in a mental institution!!!

(Please know that I don't say that lightly. My mother has bipolar disorder, so I'm extremely sensitive to those who suffer from mental illness. Locking up the mentally ill as a way to "deal with the problem" -- which was the preferred method of treatment not that very long ago -- is absolutely NOT the answer and is not something I would ever condone. However, individuals who are a danger to themselves and others absolutely need to be institutionalized until the threat no longer exists. 1000%!)
 

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I imagine that it was very well to do parents who pressured to have the rules re students with issues to remain in classrooms.

People want their children to be with others. I doubt that teachers are happy to have these dangerous students nor are school administrators. Their hands are tied by the laws

Very true. I had circumstances that even now, make me shudder. I am glad that I don't teach school any more.

I can't discuss some of my situations, but believe me, students bring guns, knives, bear spray, all kinds of things that should never be at a school. And if they have an IEP, it is wiped away, as an "incident". I had a student bring a loaded gun to school, he stated he had it for "protection". So, it was confiscated. No write up. Not even a suspension.
 

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Wow!!! The behavior described in that behavioral assessment is extremely disturbing and he should've been locked away in a mental institution!!!

(Please know that I don't say that lightly. My mother has bipolar disorder, so I'm extremely sensitive to those who suffer from mental illness. Locking up the mentally ill as a way to "deal with the problem" -- which was the preferred method of treatment not that very long ago -- is absolutely NOT the answer and is not something I would ever condone. However, individuals who are a danger to themselves and others absolutely need to be institutionalized until the threat no longer exists. 1000%!)
I worked in mental health for a long time. There is no where to "lock them up" anymore....... its not even an option. I will leave it at that.
 

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I worked in mental health for a long time. There is no where to "lock them up" anymore....... its not even an option. I will leave it at that.


I know of a psychiatric hospital,springfield hospital howard co, md. There are others out there.

Eta

I know someone who’s daughter has been there for quit a few years now.
 
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Teen with same name as Parkland shooter Nikolas Cruz wants to change it

August 2, 2019

"SUNRISE, Fla. — A Florida teenager wants to change his name because he shares it with the defendant charged in the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School massacre.

The mother of Nikolas Marciel Cruz told the South Florida Sun Sentinel her 18-year-old son got tired of being confused with Nikolas Jacob Cruz, the 20-year-old accused of killing 17 people.

Ivonne Moran said reporters called their house after the Feb. 14, 2018, shooting thinking her son was the killer — they live in Sunrise, which neighbors Parkland where Stoneman Douglas is located. She kept her son out of his school the day after the shooting, fearing how other students and parents would react.

The final straw came when a man recoiled, pulled back his hand and exclaimed “Oh my god!” after Nikolas introduced himself. He has applied with the courts to change his name to Nikolas Rene Moran. He should have a hearing before a judge within 90 days...."

https://nypost.com/2019/08/02/teen-...land-shooter-nikolas-cruz-wants-to-change-it/
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New Identity For Broward Teen With Same Name As Confessed Parkland Shooter (with clip)

September 10, 2019

"MIAMI (CBSMiami) – Nikolas Cruz walked into a Broward County courtroom on Tuesday afternoon with one name and he walked out with a different one. It was a wish he’d dreamed of since February 14, 2018.

This is not the Nikolas Cruz who confessed to carrying out the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting. This Nikolas Cruz was a teenager living at home in Sunrise, miles away from the school, on that day. Unfortunately, this Nikolas was burdened with the same name and the same spelling as the confessed Parkland shooter. It’s been a challenging 19 months for him and his family.

During that time, Nikolas feared the police, who showed up at his home on the day of the shooting. He dealt with strange looks from people when he told them his name and tried to avoid saying his name. His mother, Ivonne Moran, said her son, who has Asperger’s Syndrome, regressed. For months, they considered asking the court to legally change his name and over the summer they filed the formal petition.

On Tuesday afternoon, in a court hearing that lasted just a few minutes, Cruz got his new name and believes the benefits will last a lifetime...."

New Identity For Broward Teen With Same Name As Confessed Parkland Shooter

 

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Attorneys For Nikolas Cruz Try To Get Lead Prosecutor Removed From Case

Sep 13, 2019

"The attorneys for Parkland school shooter Nikolas Cruz will be in court this morning trying to get Broward State Attorney Michael Satz removed from the case. They say he needs to be yanked for refusing to reconsider the death penalty and because they claim he called Cruz "evil; worse than Ted Bundy." Defense attorney Mark Eiglarsh says odds of getting the request granted are slim to none. A tentative trial date is set for January. At issue is not whether he's guilty, Cruz has confessed to killing 17 people and injuring 17 others. The question is does he live or die? His attorneys have offered a guilty plea in exchange for life without parole, but only if prosecutors take the death penalty off the table."
Attorneys For Nikolas Cruz Try To Get Lead Prosecutor Removed From Case | Florida News | 95.3 WDAE
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Hearing In Confessed Parkland Shooter Case Moved To October

September 13, 2019

"FORT LAUDERDALE (CBSMiami/AP) – Defense attorneys for the confessed Parkland shooter who want the current prosecutors removed because they won’t reconsider seeking the death penalty will have to wait a little longer to make their case.

A hearing on the matter scheduled for Friday has been pushed back to October 25th.

Attorneys for Nikolas Cruz, 20, said in a court motion that Broward State Attorney Michael Satz informed them he will consider no evidence that would argue against capital punishment....

Satz’s office responded that the motion is another attempt to prevent a jury from deciding Cruz’s fate...."

Hearing In Confessed Parkland Shooter Case Moved To October
 

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'This is disgusting'; Company debuts Stoneman Douglas school shooting hoodie :(

September 17, 2019

"NEW YORK - A clothing company is facing massive backlash after debuting "school shooting hoodies," including a version that features Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

Bstroy, a company which describes itself as a neo-native menswear design house, unveiled the hoodies at a show over the weekend.

The hoodies, which include bullet holes, showcase various schools where students have died in mass shootings.

Along with Stoneman Douglas, other schools include Sandy Hook, Columbine and Virginia Tech.

According to Paper, the company released an artist statement which read, "Sometimes life can be painfully ironic,"

"Like the irony of dying violently in a place you considered to be a safe, controlled environment, like school. We are reminded all the time of life's fragility, shortness, and unpredictability yet we are also reminded of its infinite potential."

People upset with the hoodies bombarded the company's Instagram page with negative comments...."

'This is disgusting'; Company debuts Stoneman Douglas school shooting hoodie

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'This is disgusting'; Company debuts Stoneman Douglas school shooting hoodie :(

September 17, 2019

"NEW YORK - A clothing company is facing massive backlash after debuting "school shooting hoodies," including a version that features Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

Bstroy, a company which describes itself as a neo-native menswear design house, unveiled the hoodies at a show over the weekend.

The hoodies, which include bullet holes, showcase various schools where students have died in mass shootings.

Along with Stoneman Douglas, other schools include Sandy Hook, Columbine and Virginia Tech.

According to Paper, the company released an artist statement which read, "Sometimes life can be painfully ironic,"

"Like the irony of dying violently in a place you considered to be a safe, controlled environment, like school. We are reminded all the time of life's fragility, shortness, and unpredictability yet we are also reminded of its infinite potential."

People upset with the hoodies bombarded the company's Instagram page with negative comments...."

'This is disgusting'; Company debuts Stoneman Douglas school shooting hoodie

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This is beyond poor taste. Especially the "Columbine" hoodie. "Columbine" immediately brings up the images of children dead, and others walking around like zombies. It was horrific.

Who thinks of creepy things like this? Sick.
 

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Judge: Florida school shooting prosecutor won't be removed

Sep 26, 2019

"FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) — A judge has rejected a request by defense attorneys in the Florida high school massacre case to remove the state's prosecutors because they won't reconsider seeking the death penalty.

Circuit Judge Elizabeth Scherer ruled Thursday that she was denying the defense motion to disqualify Broward State Attorney Michael Satz from prosecuting the case. Scherer wrote that a defendant must show substantial misconduct or actual prejudice to remove a prosecutor, which defense attorneys didn't.

The motion filed earlier this month by attorneys for 21-year-old Nikolas Cruz says Satz informed them he will consider no evidence that would argue against capital punishment...."

Judge: Florida school shooting prosecutor won't be removed
 

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I would love to meet the person who came up with these hoodies. I wouldn't hit them, yell at them, or call them names. I would calmly ask what was it in their head to make them think this was a good idea. I am genuinely curious as to what the hell their thought process was to come up with hoodies like that.
 

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Florida man, 51, sits in high school class with a knife to ‘test security,’ deputies say
The Volusia County School District is reviewing ‘multiple security lapses’ following the Friday incident.
October 2, 2019

An intoxicated man on Friday was able to ride his bicycle through the front gate of Spruce Creek High School while carrying a knife in his pocket, enter the school building and sit in a classroom with students, all before a deputy caught him, Volusia County records show.

Derek Marlowe, 51, was arrested nearly 20 minutes after entering the Port Orange school. The Volusia County Sheriff’s Department released body camera footage from arresting deputy Justin Lococo Monday. Marlowe told Lococo he was “testing the system” and the school’s security.
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According to Marlowe’s arrest report, Shawn Butler, a campus advisor, was checking in faculty and students when Marlowe rode through the bus and faculty entrance at 8:37 a.m. Instead of radioing on-campus faculty, Butler called another advisor, Michele Passomante, on his cell phone to inform her of a suspicious person. Butler then watched as Marlowe entered the school through the student entrance.

Passomante was not on campus at the time. When Passomante arrived on campus, she was able to notify other faculty that Marlowe had entered the building and started to look for him.

Meanwhile, Marlowe lingered through the halls while class was in session, then entered the locked classroom of Charles Brinkerhoff when a student who went to the bathroom didn’t close the door all the way, the arrest report said.
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Marlowe faces charges of trespassing on school grounds, disorderly conduct and disrupting a school function.

According to the Florida Department of Corrections, Marlowe has served two stints in prison, one for a felony DUI charge and one for battery. He also has a number of arrests in Volusia County.
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This is just so sick to think that a deranged individual was/is allowed in public school. They knew and allowed him to stay.

Wow!!! The behavior described in that behavioral assessment is extremely disturbing and he should've been locked away in a mental institution!!!

(Please know that I don't say that lightly. My mother has bipolar disorder, so I'm extremely sensitive to those who suffer from mental illness. Locking up the mentally ill as a way to "deal with the problem" -- which was the preferred method of treatment not that very long ago -- is absolutely NOT the answer and is not something I would ever condone. However, individuals who are a danger to themselves and others absolutely need to be institutionalized until the threat no longer exists. 1000%!)

I don't think they had any choice. They have a legal obligation to provide educational services to the best of their ability. I'm sure that the school staff also realized that their ability to provide the appropriate services was limited. I'm sure they also wished he could be in a more secure institutional facility better adapted to what the situation required. But, most likely, that was not an option. There simply aren't very many long-term inpatient treatment programs anymore. The ones that do exist have very long waiting lists. Most likely, their hands were tied. And there also aren't many services outside the school system once students graduate or drop out.

I don't think we're allowed to get too deep into the discussion of this topic, but suffice to say, there is a lot of information online on the history of long-term inpatient treatment in the United States.
 

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Teen with same name as Parkland shooter Nikolas Cruz wants to change it

August 2, 2019

"SUNRISE, Fla. — A Florida teenager wants to change his name because he shares it with the defendant charged in the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School massacre.

The mother of Nikolas Marciel Cruz told the South Florida Sun Sentinel her 18-year-old son got tired of being confused with Nikolas Jacob Cruz, the 20-year-old accused of killing 17 people.

Ivonne Moran said reporters called their house after the Feb. 14, 2018, shooting thinking her son was the killer — they live in Sunrise, which neighbors Parkland where Stoneman Douglas is located. She kept her son out of his school the day after the shooting, fearing how other students and parents would react.

The final straw came when a man recoiled, pulled back his hand and exclaimed “Oh my god!” after Nikolas introduced himself. He has applied with the courts to change his name to Nikolas Rene Moran. He should have a hearing before a judge within 90 days...."

https://nypost.com/2019/08/02/teen-...land-shooter-nikolas-cruz-wants-to-change-it/
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Wow...wonderful way to get your 15 minutes of fame...:rolleyes:
 

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Dick’s Sporting Goods CEO says company destroyed $5 million worth of guns instead of returning them
Oct. 8, 2019 at 11:34 a.m. EDT
After 17 people were gunned down at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., in 2018, Dick’s Sporting Goods chief executive Ed Stack said he was removing all military-style weapons from company stores.

Rather than return the inventory to manufacturers, Dick’s destroyed about $5 million worth of the weapons, turning them into scrap metal.
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“We said, ‘The system is broken; we need to stand up and say something,’ ” Stack told CNBC Tuesday morning. “If you have an expertise on this, and you feel that it’s important to say, you should stand up and say it.”

Tuesday marks the release of Stack’s memoir, in which he tracks the company’s evolution from a modest regional chain to one of the biggest players in the $70 billion sporting goods market. Stack often turns to gun reform as a particularly urgent issue facing his company, corporate America and the nation. Last month, he joined 145 chief executives who pressed Senate leaders to expand background checks to all firearms sales and enact stronger “red flag” laws. Signatories to a letter included the heads of major retailers, tech firms and financial institutions, including Levi Strauss, Twitter and Bain Capital.
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Parkland Safety Commission Meets Near Orlando, Discusses Mental Health
PUBLISHED 4:28 PM EDT Oct. 15, 2019
ORLANDO, Fla. — The Marjory Stoneman Douglas Public Safety Commission is holding two days of meetings outside of Orlando.

The commission will make recommendations to the legislature for more changes in the wake of the Parkland massacre.

Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri is the chairman of the commission.

He complained that potentially dangerous students with mental health problems are not being adequately responded to by the mental health system.

"Where you got a kid Baker Acted 35 times. It’s ridiculous," the sheriff said. "And the system isn’t working."
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