GUILTY FL - Abraham Shakespeare, 42, lottery winner, Polk County, 7 April 2009 #8

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Another good lawyer question, if Dorice used the IRS check to divert money into her account, by using the IRS on the check to do it, couldn't they also get involved?
I should have gone to law school. Well, it is never too late they say.
 

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If they do peek in, THANK YOU AZlawyer!! I kind of suspected that, but I'm not a lawyer. At all.

I would love to hear a practicing attorney's opinion on this stuff.. Would they laugh? Would they cry? Would their head explode?

Seems like all of this might make a great case-study for a law student. So many issues.
Plenty of criminal law, maybe some constitutional issues (the wire-tapping) then of course the civil and going after all of the scattered assets.

So many people sucked into a moral vacuum. I know it's only wishful thinking that they all pay, guess I'll have to leave it to Godsmack and karma to clean up the rest.
 

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LOL! Same to you, Mon.

Dream of soft, salty breezes, sandy beaches and maybe even a really CUTE surfer. (Don't tell hubby I said that! LOL)
 

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...look the only law firm ddm has been involved with is , doem, cheatem...and how...if u need a dr...call me my name is Dr. Zombobway....lol...no kidding...thank you azlawyer...thank you....this law stuff can cover me up....
 

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AZLawyer, I hope you do come to visit us because I do have another question for you. Dorice has been charged with both murder and wiretapping. We had another poster look up the law and it would seem to exclude tape recording conversations in a public place where you have no reasonable expectation of privacy. It is our understanding from what we read in the Ledger that the tape recording was done in a park. If what we are reading is correct, I don't see how that charge can stand, and yet it has not been dismissed so I think we must be missing something.

I looked at the statute, and it would exclude recordings where the other person has no reasonable expectation that the conversation is private. But that isn't always true in a public park--for example, if 2 people walk to the furthest edge of a park, look around to make sure no one else is nearby, and then hunch over a picnic table and whisper, there is likely a reasonable expectation that the conversation is private.
 

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Another good lawyer question, if Dorice used the IRS check to divert money into her account, by using the IRS on the check to do it, couldn't they also get involved?
I should have gone to law school. Well, it is never too late they say.

If the "IRS check" was written to the IRS but never actually got sent to the IRS, I doubt they can do anything. (I'm hoping I have this right, since I don't know much about this case.) Did AS owe taxes in that amount, or was it just a ruse by the perp from the beginning?
 

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AZLawyer, Thanks so much for stopping in.

DDM was a poster here and if I remember correctly she CLAIMED to have paid off a debt FOR Abraham to IRS but after her arrest, the affidavit said it was actually her debt that she either paid or attempted to pay. I'm pretty sure that she did actually pay it though.
 

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AZLawyer, Thanks so much for stopping in.

DDM was a poster here and if I remember correctly she CLAIMED to have paid off a debt FOR Abraham to IRS but after her arrest, the affidavit said it was actually her debt that she either paid or attempted to pay. I'm pretty sure that she did actually pay it though.

OK, so she allegedly stole this $ from Abraham and gave it TO the IRS? In that case, I don't think the IRS would be able to (or want to) get involved.
 

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OK, so she allegedly stole this $ from Abraham and gave it TO the IRS? In that case, I don't think the IRS would be able to (or want to) get involved.

Hi AZLawyer....So glad you popped over to join us. I appreciate your input, as I know the other posters will as well.

Actually, what happened, is that DDM wrote a check out of an account she was a signor on, along with AS, for the purpose of taxes on AS' behalf. If I remember correctly, without digging in public records again, he DID have a tax bill he owed. She wrote out the check TO the IRS, but then endorsed it on the back with her signature and noted "Not needed for intended purpose" then deposited it into an account that AS did NOT have priviledges to. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that, but I'm pretty sure that's exactly as it happened.
 

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Okay, AZLawyer, this is directly from the criminal affidavit. I'm sorry I didn't do this before I posted the prior post:

*Below snipped from Susan's post on Page 1, taken directly from the criminal affidavit*
Further, on Feb. 18, 2009, a cashiers check for the sum of $250,000 was drawn on the Abraham Shakespeare LLC Account made payable to the IRS. This check was endorsed by D. Moore. Notated on the check, in the endorsement section, were the hand written words "not needed for intended purpose". This $250,000 check is then deposited into the business account of American Medical Professionals LLC. By the use of the endorsement "not needed for intended purpose" Dorice Moore was able to divert the sum of $250,000 from its intended purpose to her own control and benefit.
 

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Ahhhhh.. Okay, I completely forgot about that part. Thanks TG and Susan1!! I get a little confobled sometimes.. LOL
 

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While we were on lock down DDM had this court appearance

Most of you might have seen it but I thought I would post to keep others updated

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/local/polk/deedee-moore-plea-051010

Thanks for posting. I hadn't seen this article and haven't been googling the case too often lately.

The last line of the article says "no other arrests have been made"... I wonder if LE will ever be able to tie others to the murder and what looks like fraud, IMO.

RIP Abraham. We're all still praying that justice will be served.
 

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PUBLIC RECORDS INFORMATION SOURCE:

- Florida Department of State, Division of Corporations (www.sunbiz.org)
- Hillsborough County Tax Collector for Florida Business Tax (www.hillstax.org)


The following are the five main corporations owned (past or present) between 2004 and 2010 by either Dorice "Dee Dee" Moore (aka Dorice Donegan) or Shar Anthony Krasniqi (aka Shar Anthony, Anthony Krasniqi) that were associated with either the 9340 Redhawk Bend Dr, Lakeland, FL 33810 address (once owned by Abraham Shakespeare) or the 5732 State Rd 60, Plant City, Florida 33566, the address according to the Probable Cause Affdavit of 02/19/2010 where Abraham Shakespeare was killed.

ALL of the information below is PUBLIC RECORDS INFORMATION for documentation purposes. ALL names and addresses listed are part of these PUBLIC RECORDS


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1) American Medical Professionals LLC - Document Number L04000091594

12/20/2004: Corporation created by DeeDee Moore, 3447 South Forbes Rd, Dover, FL, 33587
12/20/2004: Florida Limited Liability Company, (Purpose: Nursing Agency)

03/26/2007: (ANNUAL REPORT): Address Change From: 3447 South Forbes Rd, Dover, FL 33587
03/26/2007: (ANNUAL REPORT): Address Change To: 3221 Stevenson St, Plant City, FL 33566
03/26/2007: (ANNUAL REPORT): Mailing address: DeeDee Moore, P.O. Box 433, Sydney, FL 33587

10/14/2009: (REINSTATEMENT): Address Change From: 3221 Stevenson St, Plant City, FL 33566
10/14/2009: (REINSTATEMENT): Address Change To: 9340 Redhawk Bend Dr, Lakeland, FL 33810
10/14/2009: (REINSTATEMENT): Mailing Address: DeeDee Moore, 9340 Redhawk Bend Dr, Lakeland, FL 33810

12/14/2009: (ANNUAL REPORT): Agent Changed From: DeeDee Moore, 9340 Redhawk Bend, Lakeland, FL 33810
12/14/2009: (ANNUAL REPORT): Agent Changed To: Debbie Munguia, 1354 W Rights Creek Rd, Bonifay, FL 32425
12/14/2009: (ANNUAL REPORT): Change From: DeeDee Moore (Mgr), 9340 Redhawk Bend Dr, Lakeland, FL 33810
12/14/2009: (ANNUAL REPORT): Change To: Debbie Munguia (Owner), 1354 W Rights Creek, Bonifay, FL 32425
12/14/2009: (ANNUAL REPORT): Mailing Address Change To: 1354 W Rights Creek Rd, Bonifay, FL 32425

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2) A Stat And Supplies LLC - Document Number L07000093418

09/13/2007: Corporation created by Anthony Krasniqi, 909 20th St, Port St.Joe, FL 32456
09/13/2007: Florida Limited Liability Company (Purpose: Staffing Supplies)

10/15/2008: (REINSTATEMENT): Address Change To: 5732 State Rd 60, Plant City, FL 33566

10/16/2009: Business License Registered as "Retail Sales" Year 2010 Folio 226572
10/16/2009: Business License Address: 5732 State Rd 60, Plant City, FL 33566

(SIDE NOTE): Dealer listed with: www.cruzincooler.com
A-Stat & Supplies, DeeDee Moore, 5732 State Rd 60, Plant City, FL 33566, (813) 478-4444, [email protected]

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3) American Medical Professionals PEO Inc. - Document Number P07000125713

11/21/2007: Corporation created by Shar Anthony, 3221 Stevenson St, Plant City, FL. 33566
11/21/2007: Florida Profit Corporation (Purpose: Nursing Agency)
11/21/2007: President: Shar Anthony, 3221 Stevenson St, Plant City, FL. 33566
11/21/2007: Chairman: D Moore, 3221 Stevenson St, Plant City, FL. 33566

07/11/2008: (ANNUAL REPORT): Registered Agent: Shar Anthony
07/11/2008: (ANNUAL REPORT): Business Address: 3221 Stevenson St, Plant City, FL. 33566

07/16/2009: (ANNUAL REPORT): Address Change From: 3221 Stevenson St, Plant City, FL. 33566
07/16/2009: (ANNUAL REPORT): Address Change To: 9340 Redhawk Bend Dr, Lakeland, FL 33810
07/16/2009: (ANNUAL REPORT): President: Shar Anthony, 9340 Redhawk Bend Dr, Lakeland, FL. 33810
07/16/2009: (ANNUAL REPORT): Chairman: D Moore, 9340 Redhawk Bend Dr, Lakeland, FL. 33810

01/27/2010: (CHANGE): Shar Anthony REMOVED as President, New President: Dee Dee Moore

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4) Abraham Shakespeare LLC - Document Number L09000013100

01/12/2009: Business License registered as a "Collection Agency" Year 2009 Folio 216082
01/12/2009: Business License Address: 5732 State Rd 60, Plant City, FL 33566

02/09/2009: Corporation created by D Moore, 5732 State Rd 60, Plant City, FL 33566
02/09/2009: Florida Limited Liability Company (Purpose: Any and All Lawfull Business)

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5) American Service Professional LLC - Document Number L09000068806

07/17/2009: Corporation created by Dorice Donegan, 5732 State Rd 60, Plant City, FL 33566
07/17/2009: Florida Limited Liability Company (Purpose: Any and All Lawfull Business)

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While we were on lock down DDM had this court appearance

Most of you might have seen it but I thought I would post to keep others updated

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/local/polk/deedee-moore-plea-051010

Why would she have to appear in court and enter a plea, when she already plead not guilty in March?? Is it because of the change of counsel?

from the article...
Dee Dee Moore was expected to appear before a judge in downtown Tampa and enter a plea, but her new representation, a court-appointed special counsel, waived the appearance.
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Moore was arrested soon after. She entered a not guilty plea in court in March.
 

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I'm not sure and I'm certainly not a legal beagle. My only guess is she appeared for the charge of murder and the second is for wire tapping?
Anyone?
 

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Why would she have to appear in court and enter a plea, when she already plead not guilty in March?? Is it because of the change of counsel?

from the article...

I'm not sure and I'm certainly not a legal beagle. My only guess is she appeared for the charge of murder and the second is for wire tapping?
Anyone?

I don't see why a change of counsel would necessitate a redo of the plea. If there were two separate charges, though, that would explain it.
 
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