FL FL - Big Cypress National Preserve, Male hiker, "Denim" and "Mostly Harmless", 23 July 2018

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  1. Tssiemer

    Tssiemer Well-Known Member

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    Oooooh world of Warcraft. I recently took a break from that game. It’s like a full time job man.
     
  2. SugarQueen

    SugarQueen Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmm, has anyone come across hikers posting they hiked with him prior to June/ July 2017?? ( this case is driving me crazy! And I seriously need sleep. Lol)
     
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  3. liona

    liona Active Member

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    Maybe he was trying to keep his trail cold? And used a well known NY town as his HT. The town of lake George is extremely touristy from Memorial Day to Labor Day. And a pretty small town (population) otherwise. Surely he will be recognized if everybody is sharing as much as I’ve seen. Unless he had elderly parents that aren’t tech savvy and he was a loner type.
    We also have Global Foundries not too far, close enough for a commute from LG. They also did a mass layoff in August 2018.
     
  4. Gardener1850

    Gardener1850 Well-Known Member

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    He told people he started at Bear Mountain State Park. There is a loop trail at Bear Mountain that connects to the AT. He was supposedly living in the park for 2 weeks before deciding to head south on the AT. So perhaps he hiked the trail in the park for a couple weeks. It's about 40 miles on the AT between Bear Mountain and Unionville. Here is a map*: Google Maps

    On the timeline I had two dates for when he started because at least one person said they thought he started in April 2017. Other hikers have said it was June 2017 when he started in NY. June fits better with his pace on the AT (He said he averaged 10 miles per day) but perhaps April was when he first left his home? Or the one person who said April could have been mistaken. Here is the timeline for a refresher: FL - FL - Big Cypress National Preserve, Male hiker, "Denim" and "Mostly Harmless", 23 July 2018

    *ETA: Actually I think Google maps is not following the AT. And the trail route changes slightly from year to year. Here is the AT distance calculator: Appalachian Trail Distance Calculator
    From the Bear Mountain Bridge to the Lott Rd in Unionville was 58.7 miles in 2017.
     
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  5. Gardener1850

    Gardener1850 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, the AT distance calculator link is not going right to the results. Here is a screen shot of the mileage:
    upload_2019-2-23_17-19-58.png

    Select 2017 for the year and then select any two points to find the distance: Appalachian Trail Distance Calculator
     
  6. SugarQueen

    SugarQueen Well-Known Member

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    Gardener, I agree that timeline fits. I’m still leaning towards him being from the Bear Mtn area, and possibly working in the city. It feels simple, not a lot of extra travel to get where we “ know” he has been. Idk, it just feels right.
     
  7. inmyhumbleopinion

    inmyhumbleopinion #NeverGivingUp

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    I was looking for information on academic and employment opportunities in and around Warren County and came across this Wikipedia article:

    “Tech Valley began as a marketing name for the eastern part of the U.S. state of New York, encompassing the Capital District and the Hudson Valley. Originated in 1998 to promote the greater Albany area as a high-tech competitor to regions such as Silicon Valley and Boston, the moniker subsequently grew to represent the counties in New York between IBM's Westchester County plants in the south and the Canada–United States border to the north, and has since evolved to constitute both the technologically-oriented metonym and the geographic territory comprising most of New York State north of New York City.

    Warren county is listed as one of the 19 counties that make up the region.
    Tech Valley - Wikipedia

    More on Warren County:

    “The county contains the highest concentrated area of medical manufacturers in New York state ....”

    “One of the primary manufacturers AngioDynamics Inc., which is located in Queensbury, and is a producer of medical devices used in minimally invasive, image-guided procedures to treat peripheral vascular disease.”
    Warren County, New York - Wikipedia

    SUNY Adirondack, located in Queensbury, offers an associate degree in Computer Science “for those pursuing baccalaureate degrees in areas like:

    [SBM]
    • Game Development and Programming
    [SBM]”

    The college also has several two-year degree programs in Information Technology.
    Degree Programs | SUNY Adirondack

    Lake George Region:

    “Although the year-round population of the Lake George region is relatively small, the summertime population can swell to over 50,000 residents, many in the village of Lake George region at the southern end of the lake.”
    Lake George (New York) - Wikipedia

    Glens Falls:

    “Glens Falls is also a principal provider of medical services for a vast 2,600-square-mile (6,700 km2) region ....”

    “These services are centered around the Glens Falls Hospital ....”

    “The hospital is now the area's biggest employer. A VA outpatient facility serves veterans' medical needs.”

    “Danfoss Flomatic Corporation is headquartered on Pruyn's Island in Glens Falls.”

    “Also on Pruyn's Island is Umicore, a Belgium-based company manufacturing silver-based contact materials.”

    “Finch Paper LLC, headquartered at the base of Glen Street hill, is a major regional employer and a manufacturer of specialty paper and forest products.”

    “The Glens Falls Cement company, established 1893, is now a part of Lehigh Northeast, itself a division of HeidelbergCement, one of the world's largest cement producers.”

    “Arrow Financial Corporation, headquartered downtown, is a publicly traded multi-bank holding company for Glens Falls National Bank & Trust Company (1851) and Saratoga National Bank and Trust Company.”
    Glens Falls, New York - Wikipedia
     
  8. inmyhumbleopinion

    inmyhumbleopinion #NeverGivingUp

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    Also, I always found Denim’s use of a close Turkish equivalent of “I dunno” (“Ben bilemiy” with an extra i) as an alias fascinating. Personally, I can’t dismiss it as a coincidence.
    FL - FL - Big Cypress National Preserve, Male hiker, "Denim" and "Mostly Harmless", 23 July 2018

    Then I remembered when @EllieGato first posted about it (thank you so much for sharing!), @Gardener1850 mentioned SUNY’s “Study Abroad in Turkey” program.
    FL - FL - Big Cypress National Preserve, Male hiker, "Denim" and "Mostly Harmless", 23 July 2018

    I looked a little more into it, and apparently, it is SUNY’s Albany campus that is affiliated with Bahcesehir University, which is located in Istanbul.
    Study Abroad - SUNY

    The UAlbany exchange program also receives students from their “partner” universities, one of which is Bahcesehir University.
    International Exchange & Visiting Students – UAlbany Study Abroad

    According to Google Maps, Glens Falls is about an hour drive from SUNY Albany. So even if he attend UAlbany or didn’t visit Turkey himself, he might have had friends who were from there.
    Google Maps

    All MOO
     
  9. SugarQueen

    SugarQueen Well-Known Member

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    You all realize now I want to go hiking right? Note to self: buy new footwear.
     
  10. SugarQueen

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    I’m still stuck with him being from an area close to Bear Mtn. Unless he took some type of transit to the park. I can’t imagine he was hiking prior to that and no one came across him.
     
  11. Gardener1850

    Gardener1850 Well-Known Member

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    There is a regular bus from NYC that drops off at the park. He could have been from almost anywhere and taken the bus to the park. JMO.
     
  12. inmyhumbleopinion

    inmyhumbleopinion #NeverGivingUp

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    Sorry, meant to say “... even if he *didn’t* attend UAlbany ....”

    Gotta get some Z’s ;).
     
  13. SugarQueen

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    That bus is part of what makes me think he lives in the Bear Mtn area and works in NYC. I’m thinking maybe he took that bus back and forth to work.
    Hopefully they are close to getting an ID.
     
  14. UnlicensedPI

    UnlicensedPI Well-Known Member

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    That would be a really long commute though, right? I've seen posts from other hikers saying he told them he lived in New Jersey and worked in Brooklyn.

    I also saw a comment on one of the new posts from a woman saying she thought he might have been a guy she spoke with. He was looking for a ride and she gave him a bottle of water. He said he just went through a divorce and his ex took everything. I don't really think this sounds like him, and most people have poor facial recognition, but there is a chance Denim hitched a ride to the park.
     
  15. SugarQueen

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    Bus or train to NYC would be about 1 1/4- 1 1/2 hours. Lots of people up here make the trek every day. ( definitely not something I’d want to do)
     
  16. LeenC

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    I know this is going to sound very selfish and deep down I know the most important part of getting MH identified is so he can go back to his family and they can have some closure, but I’m going to be really disappointed if they end up witholding his name.. I feel so invested in this case. It’s stupid but I almost feel like I “know” him after all these months of trying to crack the mystery that is this man. He really looked like such a nice guy.
     
  17. eucalyptuz

    eucalyptuz Well-Known Member

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    The Collier Co Sheriff’s office is asking for a commenter to get back to them about their information, but I can’t see the original comment that would have triggered this request...did anybody catch anything?
     
  18. SugarQueen

    SugarQueen Well-Known Member

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    Where did you see that?? Is it a newer post? (I swore I was staying off here today)
     
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  19. inmyhumbleopinion

    inmyhumbleopinion #NeverGivingUp

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    Like eucalyptus, I only see CCSO’s comment asking DO to contact them.

    It’s under this post. From 1 hr. ago:
    Collier County Sheriff's Office

    ETA: @eucalyptuz, I hope I’m talking about the same comment you are talking about this time :)!
     
  20. Suglo

    Suglo Well-Known Member

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    I just went through hundreds of comments looking for the person’s comment but no luck. I have a feeling the Sheriff’s person either hid or deleted said comment. Darn :(
     

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