FL - Broward Co., WhtFem UP1090, 46-60, in Everglades, Dec'98

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  1. Romulus

    Romulus Active Member

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    Case File 240UFFL
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    Sketches of Victim

    Unidentified White Female
    • Located on Saturday evening, December 19, 1998 in Everglades, Broward County, Florida.
    • Cause of death was homicide.
    [HR][/HR]Vital Statistics


    • [*]Estimated age: 35-45 years old.
      [*]Approximate Height and Weight: 5'6"; 116 lbs.
      [*]Distinguishing Characteristics: Possibly Hispanic. Shoulder-length brown hair; brown eyes. It was noted that she had recently undergone a medical procedure involving the removal of a cyst.
    • Dentals: Available. 13 - palatal cuspid only remains, 14 - retained roots.
    • Clothing: A black and white striped shirt with blue sleeves that read "Team Sport", red earrings, a black sleeveless "Rock City" t-shirt and red sneakers.


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    Victim's Clothing
    [HR][/HR]Case History
    The victim was located in Everglades, Florida on December 19, 1998
    A boater found the woman's body circa 17.00 in the saw grass near a boat ramp, west of U.S. 27, two miles south of Interstate 75.
    Detectives suspect she was murdered in Broward, Dade or Palm Beach counties and dumped in the Everglades.[HR][/HR]Investigators

    Fort Lauderdale Police Department
    954-761-5700
    954-761-5547
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    Broward County Medical Examiner
    Investigator Bob Keys
    954-327-6500

    You may remain anonymous if you wish.
    Agency Case Number:
    1998-1548
    NCIC Number:
    U-183268048

    Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.
    Information Source: WeTip
    FLUIDDB
    Miami Herald, The (FL) 12/21/1998
    UDRS
     
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  3. EffyElsewhere

    EffyElsewhere New Member

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  4. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    What kind of cyst, I wonder? Ovarian?
     
  5. Skully

    Skully New Member

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    could be a breast cyst too.
     
  6. Migmuu

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    Seriously, why mention the surgery for the cyst if you're not even going to say where the cyst was removed? I mean, isn't that kind of important information?
     
  7. SweetCaroline

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    Also, the three sketches all look like different people.
     
  8. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    Yeah, or an oral cyst (Mr. Carbuff had one of those), or a sebaceous cyst, or a lung or liver cyst, or a ganglion cyst (in the wrist).
     
  9. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    Ginger Hudson has a scar inside her lower lip which could be from removal of an oral cyst: http://doenetwork.org/cases/1161dfks.html She's got a pretty fair facial resemblance and would have been 38 at the UID's time of death, but nothing else is particularly close.
     

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    Rock City t-shirt makes me think of the old "see rock city" which was located near Chattanooga TN I believe. It is also the nickname for Detroit. She may be from one of those 2 areas.
     
  12. Laughing

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    Can't help it, didn't your high school band play See Rock City (from Seven States) ??????

    [video=youtube;xnXAnrqsXms]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnXAnrqsXms[/video]

    :seeya:
     
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  14. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    I'm trying to make out the design on the shirt and not having much luck. I have a general impression there's a motorcycle facing us head on, and possibly a wing design? And it looks like it says LA in the ribbon underneath.
     
  15. Sleuthster

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    There's an LA Rock City news "L.A.'s local rock newspaper since 1983" Does it look like a globe in the background on the shirt?

    http://www.rockcitynews.com/

    http://www.rockcitynews.com/directory/clothes.html
     
  16. catlike

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    If you blow it up, it looks to say "News" underneath "Rock City." Good find!
     
  17. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    Wow, yeah, that does look like a good find! According to their website they've been around since 1988 under that name, so they're old enough.

    Their logo is a globe, as Sleuthster said, and that could be a globe in the background. Still can't make out the rest of the stuff though.

    I think it makes it possible (likely?) she was from the Los Angeles area.
     
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    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2196dfca.html
    Amalia Monserrat Marquez
    Missing since April 1, 1998 from Los Angeles, California
    Classification: Missing
    [HR][/HR]Vital Statistics

    • [*]Date Of Birth: April 4, 1955
      [*]Age at Time of Disappearance: 48 years old
      [*]Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'8"; 130 lbs.
      [*]Distinguishing Characteristics: Hispanic female. Gray hair; brown eyes.
      [*]AKA: Talia Marin Bey; Amalia Marin
      [*]Dentals: Not available
    [HR][/HR]Circumstances of Disappearance
    Amalia was last seen on April 1, 1998 in Los Angeles, CA.
    She was a follower of the author and Mystic Carlos Castaneda. She left Los Angeles after Castaneda's death, together with some other of his followers. All of their telephone numbers were disconnected on the same day. One of the women was later found deceased in the desert.
    Amalia was president of Cleargreen, a company that organized Castaneda’s seminars.
    [HR][/HR]Investigators
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
    Los Angeles Police Department
    213-485-2504
     
  19. Sleuthster

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    She is still a possibility BUT I may have found her alive and still running Cleargreen under another name in LA. So put her on the back of the list of possibilities.
     
  21. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    I found Charlene Barrios http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1153dfca.html

    Charlene was 26 when she was reported missing in 1988, the first year the Rock City News existed under that name, so she would have been 36 in 1998, in range. At 5'9" she's a little taller. Weight doesn't match but ten years is plenty to have gained a lot of weight.

    The thing that really caught my eye was the circumstances:
    "In August of 1990 the mother of Charlene reported that she was missing. She said that she [presumably the mother] last spoke to Charlene in September or October 1988, when Charlene mentioned she was in Florida.
    All efforts are being made to locate Charlene and the case is actively being worked by authorities."

    [comment and bold by me]
     

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