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GUILTY FL - Calyx, 16, & Beau Schenecker, 13, shot to death, Tampa, 27 Jan 2011 #4

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  1. Sleuthster

    Sleuthster Well-Known Member

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    Because they where being mouthy! This is just sick:maddening:

    http://www.tampabay.com/news/public...astating-double-homicide-in-new-tampa/1148176

    TAMPA — Julie Schenecker was sick of her teenage children talking back to her, police say, so on Saturday she bought a pistol and planned their murder and her suicide.
    She shot her 13-year-old son after driving him home from soccer practice at 7 p.m. Thursday. Then she walked upstairs and shot her 16-year-old daughter in the back of the head as she did homework, an arrest affidavit states.
    With their blood on her clothing, she remained in the Tampa Palms house all night. Police didn't arrive until the next morning, after Schenecker's mother called them from Texas, worried because she couldn't reach her daughter, whom she believed was depressed.
    Schenecker admitted to killing her children, police said. She showed no remorse.
    Authorities charged her with two counts of first-degree murder.
    They're not satisfied with her explanation. Police spokeswoman Laura McElroy wouldn't even refer to it as a motive.
    "She did tell us that they talked back and they were mouthy," she said.
    Neighbors said they've seen police cars at the home at 16305 Royal Park Court before, although not often. The Department of Children and Families confirmed it investigated the family about two months ago, but the case was unfounded and closed. Spokesman Terry Field said he couldn't provide more details.

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  2. Coldpizza

    Coldpizza WS Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    seattlechiquita Active Member

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    Correct me if wrong: the state rested after only 1.5 days of testimony?
     
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    Well, he DID tell her she could drink up to 2 glasses of wine a day -- Parker found his note saying that!
     
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    They rested on Wednesday. The Defense started today and is expected to have 2 days of testimony, including today. Surrebuttal is supposed to take 2 days. HTH
     
  7. seattlechiquita

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    Damn, that's fast.
     
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    Can you imagine the profound effect the murders of the Schenecker children had on Dr. Obregon? From the witnesses we have heard so far, no one saw this coming. This just underscores how deceptive the depth of MI is even to those that work in the field. IMO
     
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    I hear you. Sometimes not even the most capable psychology/psychiatry sees things coming. Just a month ago we had a suicide - and a 35+ years experience Clinical Psychologist had been working with this person, emailed the morning of the suicide back and forth, all systems go. Then the next morning, we received notice that the person had committed suicide by hanging.
     
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    I believe she is, because Parker & Nancy both got exemptions (or whatever they call it in court terms) to stay in court before they testified.
     
  11. Nymeria

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    Nancy Grace Mysteries tonight is JS (8PM ET).
     
  12. Zuri

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    :bump:
     
  13. Nymeria

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    Dr. mentioned them today on the stand.
    One was for "her mouth" (I assumed some kind of oral surgery), I forgot what he said the other was though :dunno:
     
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    I think 3 days?
    Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.... Thurs off and Def. started today.
     
  15. YESorNO

    YESorNO The Queen (aka "mrsmuir") SWBB

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    Thanks, Nymeria. I'll be watching. :seeya:


    I just want to clarify what I said about JS murdering her children before.
    That MD tried to adjust her meds from what JS told him of her symptoms, from what I understood from the Tweets today, and accept for the Tardive Dyskensia symptoms, which he could probably see for himself, he took her words for the truth, IMO. He just couldn't take her off all the drugs at once, so he adjusted as she told him her side-affects. She was on meds- I don't remember how many and what they were, before this MD became one of her MDs. Did she have other Mds where she received other drugs, too? Maybe we will see more Mds??

    JS denied any psychotic episodes or symptoms, told him she hasn't been going to AA meetings, denied having suicide or homicidal thoughts, she craved oxy (why? was she having pain? Oxy is for pain? Did she just want the rush that the oxy gives? Oxi makes me throw-up and feel sick), and placed a lot of reliance on what she reported to him.

    The MD asked Julie 2x to sign release allowing him to share info w/ Parker Schenecker- both times she refused- warned her repeatedly about the risks of mixing prescription drugs & alcohol- "telling her at every juncture to limit or abstain from alcohol", and warned her that mixing drugs w alcohol could make her stay in bed all day. He was concerned that the alcohol use was interfering with treatment. He couldn't , physically, take the alcohol away from her.
    The housekeeper/maid said she "hid' her alcohol use from her husband and probably others, IMO.

    Yes, she was depressed and needed help, I realize that. If the MD couldn't tell Parker what JS said to him, how could Parker actually help her? Could he commit her himself? On what grounds? Parker did get her help by having the mother come to stay with her and from what I heard, JS didn't want her there (and called her a B***h!).

    Who is responsible her- her MD, her husband?? What about JS- was she too far gone on booze and meds to understand what she had to do to get her life back on the right track? I think, and I don't really know, so don't throw tomatoes- OK- just a thought: If she was really depressed and nothing was helping her- no pills, talks, etc., why didn't she just listen to the MD and check herself into the psych hospital; they would be able to monitor her pill use, there would be no alcohol, or for that matter, the stressors of everyday life, and she would have people who would take care of her 'til she was well- all the while talking to Mds to figure out what is really going on with her depression and her life. No one can "fix/overcome" what they do not accept as the "problem' that is causing their depression. If JS does not want help and she "has it", well what can others do to help her? Depression is a terrible thing to have.

    I need more info- to say she was insane at the time she shot her children, IMO. I need the MDs who first diagnosed her with whatever she is said to have/had, also.

    I'm still holding my "judgement" for her insanity plea 'til the trial is over now.

    Kimi- thanks for the photos of JS. I think her jaw may just look like she clenches it all the time, IMO- stress?
     
  16. zoey

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    Knee. IIRC housekeeper mentioned it
     
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    Sorry everyone, my guide said NG Mysteries was JS, but it appears to be about a Honeymooner lost at Sea (George Smith?).

    The one time I want to watch NG :steamed:
     
  19. Nymeria

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    :tyou: Zoey, yes was the Housekeeper not the Dr.
     
  20. Coldpizza

    Coldpizza WS Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Please continue here for the weekend.

    Please do not poke fun at the defendant or the victims in this case, nor the expert witnesses.

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