GUILTY FL - Calyx, 16, & Beau Schenecker, 13, shot to death, Tampa, 27 Jan 2011 #4

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  1. zoey

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    That term (and theory) had its start in the seventies. To me, it's just a euphemism for getting drunk and high.

    "You are self medicating, which is bad. Here, take these pills instead!"
     
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    The witness just said she had not seen the gun store video, but she referred to JS acting normally in the video, interacting with the staff etc. Interesting?
     
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    IMO according to this doctor they are all psychotic. All the people who shook or beat the child to death. That wasn't a fit of anger. No that was a psychotic break. All the people who torture or starve the child to death-another psychotic break.

    Heck let all murderers out of prison. Enough those that planned and carried out the killing. All psychotic breaks that conveniently came when the person first entered the planning phase and miraculously cleared up when they killed their target.
     
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    Dr. S testimony:

    State: would you immediately Baker Act a patient w/ moderate depression

    Dr. S: No

    State: would you immediately Baker Act a patient w/ suicidal thoughts?

    Dr. S: No, that's why she wasn't hospitalized.

    State: Did you have a video of Def buying gun?

    Dr. S: No

    State: So your opinion is without having observed?

    Dr. S: It wouldn't change my opnion

    State: Your tests give you an idea of how the person is thinking is at the time they take the test

    Dr. S: correct

    State: they don't tell you what the person was thinking at the time they committed the crime

    Dr. S: correct
     
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    CarsonChambers ‏@CarsonChambers · 2m
    #JulieSchenecker listening to state cross examine her clinical psychologist pic.twitter.com/RRkqJi4Qmt
     
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    :silenced:
     
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    Doc on the ropes
     
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    Is this the last defensive witness before PS?
     
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    Tampa Bay Times Live ‏@TBTimesLive · 9m
    State is now trying to pick apart Solomon's credentials. Says she's not certified as a forensic psychologist. #ScheneckerTrial
     
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    Gloria Gomez, FOX 13 ‏@ggome13 40s
    Doc admits during cross she never interv Parker Schenecker and never saw vid of her buying gun which should have #JulieSchenecker
     
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    Thank you Chelly and others that have compassion for the MI. This has been a delicate case.
     
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    Can't quite put my finger on a reason, but I'm getting the hinkeys from listening to her testimony.

    I can listen to defense experts (or prosecution experts) and pick the testimony apart. Here, I can't decide if it's her manner of speaking or what she's actually saying that bothers me.
     
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    :ditto: :silenced:
     
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    Gloria Gomez, FOX 13 ‏@ggome13 1m
    Doc admits during cross changing her opinion abt #JulieSchenecker having delusions abt her daughters mental state

    Gloria Gomez, FOX 13 ‏@ggome13 4m
    Doc admits during cross she never interv Parker Schenecker and never saw vid of her buying gun which should have #JulieSchenecker
     
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    Jeff Patterson ‏@WFLAJeff · 2m
    Psychologist thinks #JulieSchenecker's journal was just written ramblings. In journal she wrote of how and why she killed children

    CC ‏@courtchatter · 2m
    Hmmmm someone is humming in the courtroom in #scheneckertrial #JulieSchenecker
     
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    Patterson ‏@WFLAJeff · 43s
    State now pointing out inconsistent testimony from Dr from deposition 8 months ago to now at #scheneckertrial
     
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    I was going to say something about the humming, but I thought you guys would think I was psychotic... :fence:
     
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    Tampa Bay Times Live ‏@TBTimesLive · 2m
    Doc says she didn't interview Parker Schenecker, but she read his deposition #ScheneckerTrial
     
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    Dr. S testimony
    She never interviewed PS

    She thought JS's writings prior to shooting was just ramblings. Including purchasing fire arm.

    On Personality Inventory, she scored high for disosiative thinking, but not on the Dissociative test, in a clinical range for someone with bipolar disorder, but not esp. high.

    JS believed her daughter was becoming bipolar -- continuing to worry about it and believe it could be considered delusional thinking. At time of deposition, Dr. S said she didn't think it was delusional, but later Dr. S read more records and realized it was an ongoing thought process. At time of deposition she hadn't completed reading all the medical records. She said she was still reading at 11:30 last night.

    JS goes in and out of psychotic thinking, after she went out of anti-psych meds, downward spiral. Didn't interview PS directly, Dr. S read his deposition. Nov. 6 deposition she indicated her insanity was exacerbated during the 6 months prior to killings. Seeing people at USF during that period - Dr. Obregon, Psychiatrist. Seeing counselor.
     
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