FL - Davie, WhtFem 554UFFL, 21-35, in canal, blonde, gapped teeth, Feb'84

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  1. Ms Suzanne

    Ms Suzanne Active Member

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    Hi
    Please help me find out more information on this Jane Doe found.she was previously ruled out as my sister.I am trying to rule her back in.Too many people have emailed me about this as a possible match to my sister.I am trying to find out EVERTHING about this Jane Doe.Newspaper articles,ect..Is there any more information on her.If she is not my sister maybe we can find out who she is?.I never knew there were so many unidentified Jane and John Does out there.someone must be looking for them.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/554uffl.html

    suzanne
     
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  3. Babyslims

    Babyslims New Member

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    I really wish they'd divulge more information!!! (any moles?any scars? how were the teeth? what color/kind of shorts???natural blonde or dyed?blood type?)The more the better.. and considering what information they did divulge, your sister matches the discription so it looks like they should be more than willing to find out!!! GRRRR makes me mad..
     
  4. LionRun

    LionRun Former Member

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    Hi suzanne:). How exactly was Tammy ruled out concerning this Princess Doe? Was it through DNA or dentals?

    Lion
     
  5. Ms Suzanne

    Ms Suzanne Active Member

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    Hi
    they ruled her out with Dentals.Tammy's dental has changed and been changed and mistaken over the years from fillings to no fillings.There are NO dental xrays on my sister and these dental are as different as night and day for me to trust either is her dental.I am trying to push now to use only my DNA to check for this Jane Doe as a possible match and all Jane Does as a possible match.I have tried to contact all the police and no one has answered me.It is weird.Am I being avoided?why?I just need now information on this Jane Doe?dental/eye color?had she born children?dyed blond hair?scars?broken bones?pierced ears?ect....ect.....ect....A post mortem picture will tell me.I am very curious if this Jane doe just gave birth or had an abortion recently before she died.newspaper articles anything.
     
  6. timetravel

    timetravel care giver of all stray and feral cats who come my

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    did you contact the sun senitel? there was a link to it in the doe file but i had trouble accessing it...perhaps if you contact them directly?
     
  7. FLMom

    FLMom Former Member

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    Suzanne,

    I looked up this case on the FLUID database---the Florida Unidentified site. Here's the link:

    http://www.fluiddb.com/php/details10.php?case=51

    Not a lot of info, but does list the height and eye color as 5'6" (approx.) with hazel eyes. There's also a case manager and a number to call.

    Hope this helps,
    FLMom
     
  8. Ms Suzanne

    Ms Suzanne Active Member

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    Hi
    Thankyou.I do not think she is on her case any more.I think another lady is.she has not told me anything.I tried to email people to get more information on her.They have not emailed me back.

    suzanne
     
  9. FLMom

    FLMom Former Member

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    Suzanne,

    Thanks for replying so quick---I was going to edit my post to ask a question but you'd already answered!

    Did Tammy have any tattoos, scars or birthmarks? I kinda doubted the tattoos since she was an actress, but I haven't seen the question asked before.

    FLMom
     
  10. Ms Suzanne

    Ms Suzanne Active Member

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    Hi
    I guess there is always the possibility she left for awhile or really was afraid of someone.You never know she could have went wild and got tatoo's and everything pierced.But I usually don't look for that.I don't rule anything out anymore.I just don't know.I wish there was more on this Jane Doe or any of the Jane Does out there for that matter so I can tell better.I usually see all different kind of sketches of the same Jane Doe on different ones.That look nothing like each other or the probably the Jane Doe.Sadly a post mortem picture clearly shows what they look like and it usually looks nothing like the sketch.I need to see a post mortem picture of this Jane Doe.They should do a clay sculpture of this Jane Doe.sometimes they use thier actual teeth so you can see what the Jane Does teeth look like.This Jane Doe can really fit just about anybody.There is not much to go on.

    suzanne
     
  11. timetravel

    timetravel care giver of all stray and feral cats who come my

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    i guess after so much time, the sketches seems to all blend together - at least ones of certain types - its a shame some sights don't want to put up postmortem photos - although they can be quite graphic and disturbing they are a bigger help in seeing what the person looked like - this is only true if there is enough to photograph, of course - if not, a sculpture - something with some dimension - is second best.....
     
  12. Ms Suzanne

    Ms Suzanne Active Member

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    Hi
    No one has answered me back yet about anything.A better discription or anything at all.It is very strange.

    suzanne
     
  13. KarlK

    KarlK New Member

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    If she was found floating in a canal and had been there for a while she probably wouldn't be recognizable.
     
  14. Ms Suzanne

    Ms Suzanne Active Member

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    I agree.Someone finally emailed me.He seems very helpful.There is really not much to go on.Maybe we can still figure out who she is.Apparantly there is a gap between this Jane Does front teeth.Maybe that will help identify who this Jane Doe is.

    suzanne
     
  15. Ms Suzanne

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    Hi
    This Jane Doe does not appear to be my sister.But she is very close.I wonder if this Jane Doe is a Christopher Bernard Wilder(a serial killer in 1984.)He killed models and women in beauty pagents.This girl was found in febuary 18 1984.Then Rosario Gonzales was missing Febuary 26 1984 from Miami area.Then Beth Kenyon was missing in Coral Gables Florida in march 5th 1984.They are all about a week apart.Both of the women missing were missing from around Miami Florida and into beauty pagents and modeling. Miss Florida pagent?who were the beauty contestants that year and up to a few years before 1984?or what modeling agencies were in and around miami or Florida. These two women were never found.This Jane Doe had bleach blond curly hair.It appears shorter in the picture than in a sketch.she appears to have a gap in her teeth.cosmetic work?I don't know.Her eyes were brown or hazel.there are conlicting stories on her eye color.She is pretty and cute.I do think she is a wilder victim.Please help me find out who she is.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/554uffl.html

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/383dffl.html

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1215dffl.html




    suzanne
     
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  17. Ms Suzanne

    Ms Suzanne Active Member

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    Hi
    Ok,thankyou.This Jane Does case is not being closed.They are having a freash look at who she can be.It's sad.someone must care for her and still wonders what became of her.

    suzanne
     
  18. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Moderator

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    The Doe Network:
    Case File 554UFFL
    http://doenetwork.org/cases/554uffl.html

    NamUS Case UP Case 1258 https://identifyus.org/cases/1258

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    Reconstructions of Victim; 3 Right: by Barbara A. Martin Bailey

    Unidentified White Female

    * The victim was discovered on February 18, 1984 in Davie, Broward County, Florida
    * Estimated Date of Death: 2 days prior
    * Victim of Homicide

    Vital Statistics

    * Estimated age: 21-35 years old
    * Approximate Height and Weight: 5'4"; 120 lbs.
    * Distinguishing Characteristics: Blonde hair; hazel eyes.
    * Clothing: Shorts

    Case History
    The victim was located floating in a canal in the 2600 block of Southwest 130th Avenue. She had been strangled.

    It's possible that this woman was a victim of suspected serial killer Christopher Wilder. Wilder lived in Boynton Beach and was linked to a string of disappearances through Florida from the late 1970s to early 1980s.

    Investigators
    If you have any information about this case please contact:
    Broward County Medical Examiner's Office
    954-327-6500
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    Davie Police Department
    954-327-6500
    You may remain anonymous when submitting information.

    Agency Case Number:
    1984-0253


    NCIC Number:
    U-570018944
     
  19. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Moderator

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    Looking for PM's to this UID, I came across Tammy Leppert, and said to myself that they had to have looked at her as a possible for this UID. Both she and the UID were suspected of being victims of Christopher Wilder.

    Tammy Lynn Leppert
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/leppert_tammy.html
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    But this seems to be a perfect match. Her age is slightly under the estimate, but everything else is spot-on. Same color hair, same color eyes, the height is right.

    And the resemblance is amazing - The chin, jawline, browline, bridge of the nose, tip of the nose, eye-spacing - even the hairline looks the same.

    I went through the Tammy Leppert thread in the Missing But Not Forgotten forum, and this UID is mentioned several times throughout the thread, but all I can see is that her sister (WS member Ms Suzanne) heard that she had been ruled out based on the UID having a gap between her front teeth.

    Obviously from the photos, Tammy doesn't have a gap between her teeth. But it doesn't say anything about a gap between the UID's teeth (or for that matter, anything about the teeth) either in DoeNet or NamUs. And Tammy is not listed as a rule-out in NamUs (nor is anyone else).

    At the bottom of Tammy's Charley Narrative, it says:

    Maybe they did a full dental comparison before the records were lost, but it looks to me like this was ruled out on dentals based only on a visual comparison of tooth spacing between her photos and the UID's dental records.

    BTW, this is not the only young UID female with (allegedly) gapped teeth found floating in a canal in Davie FL (See link below).

    http://doenetwork.org/cases/295uffl.html

    When they did their quick and easy rule-out, I hope they compared her to the right UID!
     
  20. tamar

    tamar New Member

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    Carl,

    I have made the same comparison and still have these cases in my "match" file.... but OF COURSE I didn't submit them, as I am certain local LE has already thoroughly compared the two and discounted the match. right?

    Yet, it's probably better to find out for certain.
     
  21. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    All I have to say is...WOW.

    This had better be rechecked. Mistakes have been made before.
     

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