GUILTY FL - Jordan Davis, 17, shot to death, Satellite Beach, 23 Nov 2012 #8

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  1. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hter-note-prison-calling-thugs-shot-hint.html

    Did the jury see the X-ray picture of the bullet trajectory? It entered his side below the ribs and traveled to the opposite armpit.

    There is no way that I can see he could have been shot in a trajectory like that while getting out of the SUV but it seems to work if he was bending back towards Leland, trying to get away from MD.
     


  2. Zuri

    Zuri Well-Known Member

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    I am wondering if the prosecution stayed away from humanizing Jordan because a year prior to his death he was involved in a fist fight at school, and "talked back" to several of his teachers the fall he died. JMO
     
  3. popsicle

    popsicle faith hope love

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    Yes they did. The ME did an excellent job imo.
     
  4. fifteen89

    fifteen89 New Member

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    I'm not getting it either and am hoping some of the jurors talk. I've always felt the Allen Charge should work because they're going around the table saying what the weaknesses in their beliefs are. That should bring up new areas of discussion rather than people just arguing back and forth with "I say this" and "No, I say that" which doesn't do much but let them continue to dig their heels in and not budge. jmt
     
  5. turaj

    turaj Well-Known Member

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    Zuri..i think you may have something there...his own parents admitted that in the past year they have seen him change and not for the better but nothing major...we really don't know what all happened behind the scenes.
    None of it really makes any difference and they may not have wanted the victim to be on trial any more than he was.
    That said...in closing I think some photos of him to really let the jury know what the case is about would have been good...Jordan was so handsome and they have so many wonderful family photos...including that photo with his dad putting on his tie! At that point the defense could have no longer trashed him.
     
  6. Zuri

    Zuri Well-Known Member

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    One of the things I think the prosecution could do, to clear up any misconceptions about the child locks, is to bring in an expert on 2002 Dodge Durangos. How the doors work, the auto locks, how far down the rear windows go, would have been helpful. Also the height if the Durango as compared to the Jetta, where the Jetta would have been parked in relation to the Durango with regards to the gunshot trajectory.

    IIRC, the Jetta windows were down when MD started shooting. Tevin Thompson stated he reached over and put up Jordan's window prior to the shooting. The shattering of the windows seemed similar, which would give credibility to Tevin's testimony. JMO
     
  7. ElleElle

    ElleElle Well-Known Member

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    BBM ~ Thank you! Exactly, self-defense is protecting yourself from harm not having to kill them. And, yes, MD was so :furious:

    I personally would of drove away if I was in the face of danger not shoot to kill. :moo:
     
  8. Zuri

    Zuri Well-Known Member

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    Does the law about discharging a firearm contain language about reasonable and prudent? I thought I read that before, but everything is now running together. TIA
     
  9. Lulu67

    Lulu67 New Member

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    I'm sorry Zuri. And for your mom too, as I cannot imagine having to bury your child, especially due to such a heinous act. I hope I don't offend you (or anyone else here), but I believe that we are ALL held to account for our deeds, and in the end, after this life is over, is when the real scales of justice begin. Your brother's killer(s) will not escape justice, and they will fully understand what misery means when they get it.
     
  10. daisy7

    daisy7 Retired WS Staff

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  11. Lulu67

    Lulu67 New Member

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    Plus he had 17 hours to concoct a story. And made sure to mention a ***ton of "scared for my life" "threatened me" malarky while on the stand.
     
  12. turaj

    turaj Well-Known Member

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    his language right from that night was from the self defense and syg laws..he was googling all night.
     
  13. ElleElle

    ElleElle Well-Known Member

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    Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

    Since MD fled the scene, does that make it M1?

    Maybe the prosecution overshot the charge, and should of charged him with M2, and possibly the jury would of found him guilty instead of hanging?

    I personally think the jury could not agree on M1, therefore hung. It may have been different if it was a M2 charge?
     
  14. ElleElle

    ElleElle Well-Known Member

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    Certainly not self-defense either.

    If I shot/stabbed/tasered/punched someone because I was in fear for my life, I would of called 911 right away.

    Was MD under the influence of anything? He seemed to be out of his mind that night. :scared:
     
  15. turaj

    turaj Well-Known Member

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    so in other words without m1 on the table the would have gone with m2..guss that implies no self defense hold out...hope we find out...sure would make a difference for next trial..my thought is if you cant agree on m1 then move to m2 and so on. they did not think like me.
     
  16. daisy7

    daisy7 Retired WS Staff

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    Him fleeing the scene, does not make it M1. It's all about premeditation and his actions/thoughts before and when he killed Jordan. The jury had the option of finding him guilty of M1 down to the lesser offenses in their instructions (M1 and manslaughter).

    I really hope that the mistrial on count one was because they couldn't agree to a guilty on which charge. Not, that there was 1 or more jury members who thought he had a valid-self defense claim. Wishful thinking.

    IMO
     
  17. ElleElle

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    Does it work that way? I mean, since they couldn't agree on M1, can they default to M2?

    And, yes I would of the same if so. Maybe they were thinking he's be sentenced anyways, that the M1 is overkill. No pun intended. :giggle:
     
  18. LambChop

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    Tevin may have put that window up but it appears it was down so it is possible when MD said either you can't talk to me that way, or are you talking to me (could have said both) JD may have rolled his window down to reply at the time MD was grabbing his gun. Even if it was part way down the remainder of the window may have slid down into the door. Only an expert could tell us that so they probably should have an expert testify.

    My back doors auto-lock the minute you are driving forward at 15 miles I think, maybe less. They stay locked in the back until they are released. You also can not open the back doors from the outside once you are stopped. You have to unlock them. So they are locked inside and out. It is a safety and security feature. It is just automatic when we stop the car to push the unlock button. Driver's side will open and front passenger opens but back doors have to be unlocked for someone to get out. Think about it if you were to stop at a light late at night would you want to have to worry about your doors being unlocked. I can't believe Strolla even said that Jordan could have reached out and opened the door because the window was down. If it's locked on the inside it is also locked on the outside. jmo
     
  19. casesensitive

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    During the question period last night, a reporter asked Angela Corey why she would retry the murder count considering the lengthy sentence MD faces for the other 4 counts. She said that it was important to retry the murder count in case the other counts are appealed and thrown out.
     
  20. Lulu67

    Lulu67 New Member

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    I'm so flippin mad right now.....some toolbox on Facebook commented on my friend's post, my friend saying basically it is yet another gross miscarriage of justice, and this guy responds saying this was a CREATED EVENT, a made up scene, and called me an idiot of I "actually believe" there were no cameras outside of the gas station. OMG.....people have LOST their MINDS in these days we're in!!

    When I said MD is a racist jerk, I am called a "racist." (my profile picture doesn't have any hint of what color I am, but while I KNOW they think I'm black, I'm actually white as rice. And a Muslim, so I'm sure if they knew THAT their heads would explode from the combustible conspiracy theories that will immediately flow in).

    Some days, I fear for the continuation of the human race.
     
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