FL FL - Little Talbot Island, WhtMale 79UMFL, 40-60, leaning against tree, Jan'90

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  1. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Case File 79UMFL
    NamUs UP 961 https://identifyus.org/en/cases/961

    Sketch of Victim by J. McMillan

    Unidentified White Male
    Located on January 20, 1990 on Little Talbot Island, Duval County, Florida.
    Estimated Date of Death: 3 - 6 months prior to discovery.
    Cause of Death: homicide, gunshot
    State of Remains: Partial Skeletal

    Vital Statistics

    Estimated age: 40 - 60 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 6'2" - 6'4"; 250 - 290 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Graying sandy blonde and almost straight hair. Wide face.
    Clothing: He was wearing a size 40 blue button-down shirt; blue "Hager" pants size 40 long; a white T-shirt; a light gray jacket; black socks; size 13 black leather shoes with laces; white boxer underwear; and a brown belt. He was carrying a hat/visor.
    Personal Effects : A key chain with 4 keys, 2 being car key of General Motors', a government-issued ball point pen, black frame, non prescription sunglasses, super glue, nail clippers, plastic comb and a black smoking pipe.
    Skeletal Findings : Possible old laminectomy L4-L5; styloid process on right ulna was very short or broken away and remaining stump eburnated; perforation through left maxillary sinus with fistulous tract from chronic sinus infection; one or more healed fractures of nasal bones; at least partially healed fracture of right second rib.
    Fingerprints: Not available. Unobtainable.
    Dentals: Available, Extensive dental work. #5&9: root canal therapy completed; #23-26: fractured; #13: acrylic composite/veneer; #20: tilted distally; #27: rotated; #2,3,7,9,10,11, 12,15 & 18: severe bone loss.
    DNA: Pending

    Case History
    The victim's skeletal remains located Off the Atlantic coast, at 15000 Block of Hecksher Drive, twenty miles from downtown Jacksonville, Florida, On Little Talbot Island, in a wooded area.
    Little Talbot Island is a undeveloped, barrier island near the Duval/Nassau County line, in Northeast Florida. The entire island - 2,500 acres - is a State Park.

    He was found resting up against a tree and seated on plastic material.
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  3. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    The height is off, but I couldn't help but notice the resemblance of Edward F. Grossman to the reconstruction for this John Doe.



    Aside from the height, everything else seems plausible.
    * His age (59) is within range (40-60)
    * The timeline is right - LKA (Sep-89) to Discovery (Jan-90) is 4 months - Consistent with the 3-6 month postmortem interval.
    * The circumstances indicate that he would not necessarily be expected to be found near the area from where he disappeared (Wyoming County NY)

    The rule-out list contains 19 names, but not his.

    There is no DNA or Dentals on him, so they might have trouble comparing him.
  4. vermontaigne

    vermontaigne New Member

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    Looks worthwhile to me, Carl.
  5. CherBearSTL

    CherBearSTL Member

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    Grossman is said to have black hair, while the UID had graying blond hair. That would lead me to think this isn't him. But the 2 photos of Grossman are so different, which makes it difficult to say for sure.

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  6. hayaletcatcher

    hayaletcatcher Active Member

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    The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
    First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
    Elito Castro 0
    Ernest E. Cofield 0
    Phillip Crossan 0
    Leen Dykhuizen 0
    Roy Hagel 1950 North Dakota
    Gerard J. Hanrahan 1941 Massachusetts
    Ronald Peter Lombardo 0
    Peter Strother Madison 0
    Sydney Manning 0
    Richard Masson 0
    George Miles 1927 Maryland
    Tracey, AKA Tracy, Walter Miracle 1926 Kentucky
    Hanson Oates 0
    Gordon Thomas Page, Jr 1963 Michigan
    Johnny L. Parker 0
    Fred M. Russ 0
    William C. Taylor, VII 0
    Marten Van Harten 1956 Florida
    Ronald Westwick 1944 Iowa

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