FL - Miami, BlkMale UP5676, 60-70, in Miami River, Dec'08

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  1. Migmuu

    Migmuu New Member

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    UP#5676
    1428UMFL

    Demographics
    • Age: 60 - 70 years old
    • Race: Black/African-American
    • Sex: Male
    • Height: 69 inches (5'9)
    • Weight: 178 lbs
    • Postmortem interval: Less than one week

    Circumstances
    • Found 1100 NW N. River Drive in Miami, Miami-Dade County, FL
    • Captain of river detoxification boat found decedent floating in Miami River

    Physical
    • 9 cm length curly, grey hair
    • Grey beard, mustache
    • Eye color: Brown

    Clothing/Accessories
    • Black nylon Adidas pants
    • White, long-sleeved button-down shirt
    • Greyish sneakers
    • No wallet or belongings found

    Identifiers
    • Dentals: Available and entered
    • Fingerprints: Available and entered
    • DNA: Available - tests not complete
     
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  3. Migmuu

    Migmuu New Member

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    I don't think these two have been compared before.

    HERBERT YOUNG
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    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/y/young_herbert.html

    Age (59) is just one year off the age range
    Race (black) matches
    Height (5'10) is within one inch
    Weight (190 lbs) is within 12 lbs
    Hair color (grey) matches
    Eye color (brown) matches
    He looks strikingly similar to the reconstruction. The lips, nose, hairline, face shape, facial hair, hairstyle, and eye spacing are almost identical
    The circumstances for Herbert's case don't suggest he met with foul play or anything in California, so he could very well have made it to Miami
    The time interval between Herbert's disappearance and the UP's discovery is a little over nine months, which is more than enough time to make it to Miami and lose 12 pounds, and for your beard to grow to the UP's length
     
  4. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Moderator

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    Looks pretty close to me.
     
  5. Migmuu

    Migmuu New Member

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    I sent an email with the information and this thread to the contact, Sandra Boyd, on Friday. I tried calling her on the phone but it wouldn't work for some reason. Haven't gotten a reply to the email yet, but that's probably because it's the weekend.
    It turns out she's the same woman I called when I was submitting another PM just last month. She's pretty cool and I remember telling her I'd call her if I ever found another PM.

    Anyways, I was looking at the two pictures again and I noticed another similarity. If you look closely, you can see a little circular patch of beard on the same spot of both men's chin. It's also the same grey and the area around this patch is relatively hairless on both men. I've drawn an arrow to it here:

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    It's small, but do you guys think this detail is significant (or at least adds to my idea that this these two may be the same guy)? Or nah
     
  6. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    I didn't realize one of those pics was the UID. I thought they were both Mr. Young.
     
  7. Migmuu

    Migmuu New Member

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    I'd called Boyd yesterday to see if she got the email I sent on Friday, but we couldn't really talk long since she was in the middle of a conference/meeting. I got a reply to the email this evening:

     
  8. Migmuu

    Migmuu New Member

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    This is not a match. Actually, Herbert Young wasn't even missing in the first place. I just heard from Mrs. Boyd that she'd called the LAPD and found out he's alive and has been in a nursing home this whole time. We have no idea why he's still listed as missing. She said she thought I had this one because they looked identical and she seemed as incredulous as I am right now.

    I'm so frustrated; I really had my hopes up for this PM. But I'm glad that he's alive and well. I'm going to email Meaghan from CharleyProject to tell her that Young isn't missing anymore.
     
  9. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    Herbert Young's Charley page has been taken down as requested.

    The decedent's Namus page https://identifyus.org/en/cases/5676 says Wade Williams has been ruled out.

    The decedent has DNA available
     

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