Fl - Orlando Le Officer Shot, Suspect Holding 4 Children Hostages

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  1. enelram

    enelram Well-Known Member

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    ^^^ He did not open door, shot officer through door.
    TV news just said mother of 2 children put up in apt. I believe
    they said she has some family nearby.
     
  2. enelram

    enelram Well-Known Member

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    Press Conference- 5:30pm today-Orlando Police Chief John Mina
    Suspect had 5 guns in apt. 2 rifles, 2 shotguns, 1 handgun
    LE never knew status of children while negotiating with him
    LE used wifi phone and friends and social media to communicate
    with suspect.
    No evidence there was ever a threat to children
    Bodies of 2 children in one bedroom, 2 in another bedroom and
    suspect body was in closet with a gun
    Guns were passed to suspect when his father died
    One officer fired back through front door after other officer was shot.
    Shot officer can not communicate and is in extremely critical condition. Officer is married and has 2 very small children.
    When asked if shot officer could communicate, Chief made a
    face as he said no, not at all.
     
  3. LadyL

    LadyL Well-Known Member

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    and the officer & his family

     
  4. enelram

    enelram Well-Known Member

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    New Twist- Ch. 9 tv Orlando just reported that they had been in touch by phone with suspect who wanted to talk with and apologize to girlfriend and he would release all 4 children. Apparently they had numerous phone conversations with him.
    Ch. 9 contacted LE who sent an officer over to the station to supervise the conversations.
    Guess LE did not approve of suspect talking to gf.
     
  5. LadyL

    LadyL Well-Known Member

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    I don't know how anyone recovers from all their babies being murdered. I hope in time, mom realizes it's not her fault.
     
  6. enelram

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    Suspect was father of all 4 children. The older 2 were by a different ex- girlfriend and younger 2 were with his current gf.
     
  7. CARIIS

    CARIIS Typist Extraordinaire!

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    I learned today he did shoot through the door

    Schizophrenia is emerging in his history

    I think he shot the kids right after the cops were preoccupied with the cop he shot in the face and then struggled with suicide for the next 20 hours

    i think we will learn if he was oriented during the calls -- psychotic or delusional hearing voices etc ?? I would think that will come out well see
     
  8. AnaPisces

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    BBM. o_Oo_Oo_Oo_OApart from being taken hostage by a psycho with 5 guns?...
     
  9. enelram

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    Reading between the lines of TV station's announcement, I get
    the feeling they did NOT agree with LE. Ch. 9 has repeated this
    news bit several times yesterday. Seems like a huge FAIL.
    Police Chief was adamant- no evidence children were ever in danger. Well just because he didn't verbally threaten them, the fact is he kept them as hostages which seems to me that in itself
    indicates they were in danger. Bad judgement call, IMO.
     
  10. dyannaON

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    I wonder why they didn’t barge in. Was it because of the guns and children? My son didn’t have guns thankfully but had every knife in our home in his room. The police I would say were here for 2/3 hours and tact team was about to come in.
    Not questioning the officers as I’ve seen first hand how quickly things can change in these intense situations. I’m just wondering why. I’m thinking it was to protect the kids. I do also wonder if they asked about the kids during the standoff? The police here were essentially bending over backwards for my son.
    Sure you can call you uncle in Atlanta. ( LE there, thankfully he spoke with his uncle and LE here did as well) helped so much. I wonder if drugs were involved? My son was hearing voices that night as well and kept talking about demons but he was on meth and a slew of other drugs.
    Also I wonder if he thought he killed the officer? I wonder if LE let him know that he was just injured badley.
    All just seems so senseless. I will
    Never understand murdering your children. They did nothing wrong.
     
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    Maybe there was no evidence the children were ever in danger because the psycho had already killed them prior to negotiations. JMO
     
  13. Mica

    Mica Well-Known Member

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    There is a go fund me page for the officer who was shot.

    Ofc. Kevin Valencia - Wounded Hero
     
  14. dyannaON

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    I hope Kevin recovers. His family must be so distraught. So many lives ruined by one man. Sigh.
     
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  15. enelram

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    I'm very concerned at this point that in his condition, he may
    never fully recover, if I'm reading the Chief's response yesterday
    correctly. He's been 'extremely critical' for several days now and
    unable to communicate. I'd say that's pretty severely hurt. IMO.
    Poor guy and so young. Was just doing his job.
     
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    Jax49 Florida Native

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    Orlando Police on Twitter

    MEDIA: There will be an update on Officer Kevin Valencia at 2 pm at @orlandohealth in ORMC’s new tower, classroom 4. Please arrive by 1:45 p.m. for setup. And feel free to use this photo.

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    creepcrusher “Child predators make me cringe.”

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    Prayers for his family! God please help him make a full recovery. Please!!!
     
  18. margarita25

    margarita25 Jessica Ridgeway. Never Forgotten.

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    margarita25 Jessica Ridgeway. Never Forgotten.

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    I can see how they may have thought this could be a bad idea and set him off futher, moo.
     
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