FL FL - Pasco Co., Box of bones kept by deceased individual, Jul'08

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    Sleuthster Well-Known Member

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  3. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    Discussion and quotes of links that don't load for me here:
    http://www.johndouglasmindhunter.co...?p=49014&sid=4db4b62aedeed55e98e41197e974c20c

    Apparently Otto Ullrich died in his eighties and was something of an eccentric, a loner/miser/hoarder/scavenger/collector who was not known to be violent and might possibly have found the bones somewhere and brought them home and kept them. There were no obvious missing person cases connected with him.

    I didn't find information about the bones being identified but they're not listed in Namus or DN.


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  4. madamx

    madamx Well-Known Member

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    What ever became of this? Did the medical examiners ever identify the bones? Age and if they where male or female ? The newspapers were from 1972 and 1993. A lot of people went missing and never found in those years they could be anybody!
     
  5. madamx

    madamx Well-Known Member

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    this is all I found.. there was no update as to if the bones were male or female or adult or child.. or any more info r photo of the box they were in..
    http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/thrifty-loner-left-box-of-bones/661947

    He is even more of a mystery in death.
    A year after Ullrich died at the age of 81, the Pasco County Sheriff's Office said, human bones were found Friday on one of his old properties at 13029 Buoy Court.

    His nephews were visiting from New Jersey to clean up their uncle's properties for sale.
    Then Friday morning they started on the plain white shed sitting by the plain white mobile home.
    "The last thing the two nephews thought they'd find," said sheriff's spokesman Doug Tobin, "was some bones in a box."

    Soon after, official-looking vehicles lined the street. A crime scene technician examined the shed. A medical examiner confirmed the bones were human. Cadaver dogs didn't find any more remains on the property. And TV crews set up video cameras as stunned residents in this canal neighborhood looked on.
    The box was very old, Tobin said, as indicated by writing on the box and newspapers found inside. They date from 1972 to 1993.
    The Sheriff's Office declined to reveal details about the remains. The medical examiner will determine all that, and if possible, a cause of death.
    But deputies are running down the possibilities. There are no missing relatives or neighbors, Tobin said.
    And they're checking to make sure Ullrich's two deceased wives are buried where they're supposed to be.
    Cadaver dogs searched Ullrich's primary residence at 7810 Gulf Highlands Drive but found nothing, said deputies.
    Both properties are unoccupied.
     
  6. KaylaraOwl

    KaylaraOwl Well-Known Member

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    Holy crap. I have a lot of NJ cases they need to be checked against. First and foremost to me is Jan Cotta.

    I hope that they release where he lived in NJ and was known to frequent. If he did just find these bones, then there may be more out there in that area.
     
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    madamx Well-Known Member

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    I have not found where he lived in NJ but I did read he had a wife buried in NJ.
     
  8. madamx

    madamx Well-Known Member

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    I noticed in this case http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...keletal-20UFNJ-15-20-on-hillside-Dec-88/page8. The bones were dated back to 1973 I believe.
    there were remains found but then also one flip flop and one child's shoe but no bones... I wonder if the bones in the box are the bones that belong to the extra shoes?

     
  9. MOTORUNNER

    MOTORUNNER The chosen one

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    I'm sure they have ways of ruling things like this out, and I'm sure they already did, but perhaps they're bones used for medical study? A friend of mine in med school had a really old box full of human bones. His had little number's on them, that matched up with a key, so you could identify which bone was which, but maybe these are so old, or the man rook off the numbers.
     

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