FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #26

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  1. imamaze

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    Continue here with discussion on Somer's case.

    Post links to SR registry only, do not copy/paste info on SO to this thread, including photographs and inmate details.

    Do not post personal information -- name, address, phone number -- of anyone LE has not named as suspect in the murder of Somer Thompson here.

    References to minors other than the victim should be initials only (AC, AT, ST). When in doubt about whether you can use someone's name, use initials and provide link to source of information.

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    Thank you Imamazed..

    Happy Holidays to you and yours ..
     
  3. imamaze

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    Brought over from thread 25, originally posted by Noway. (Thanks!)

    Please do not quote in its entirety.

    Instead, use the Quote button and delete everything but the parts you want to discuss. This post is huge.



    List of FACTS in Somer's case: Version IV

    Credit for compiling goes to:
    SharetheLight
    SharetheLight
    , Doggies, Dee10, MammaD, CCane, and Many Others (it's a work in progress).

    These are facts as reported by media and/or from the MPR. Tried to put links to source where available.

    Called this version Part I so when editing time on this post is up, this can be copied and added to and we can call that one Version II and so on.

    SOMER
    Somer Thompson was 7 years old when she disappeared on October 19, 2009.
    Somer was wearing a cranberry jumpsuit (jogging suit?) with a matching top to the bottom and pink satin stripes down the sides of arms and legs, and a black shirt underneath.
    Somer's birthday is April 5, 2002.
    Somer was not in the habit of wandering off, according to her mom in video (on left, scroll down in video list) Diena Thompson Addresses The Media.
    Somer routinely wandered around and nobody knew where she was, according to a babysitter.
    Somer wore a red ribbon in her ponytail on October 19.
    AB (neighbor) drove Somer to school on October 19 and said it was a normal morning and Somer was her usual self.
    Somer went to school (GPE) and left school at regular time (2:32 p.m.).
    Somer was walking home with a group of kids that included sister AT and brother AT.
    Something happened on the walk home and Somer ran ahead to walk alone.
    An AMBER Alert was issued on Tuesday morning. It does not mention the book bag or lunchbox, but mentions her possibly wearing white hat and scarf.
    Somer lived with her mom Diena Thompson, her twin brother ST, her older sister AT. (Unsure whether half-brother AC lived with them)
    Somer's body was found at Chesser Island Landfill in Folkston, GA. She was tentatively identified by her clothing and a birthmark.
    Somer's lunchbox and book bag (see sketches as released by LE and shown on AMW) have not been found. Details first reported on AMW November 7. (Previous reports had not mentioned description of lunchbox; backpack/book bag was described several ways, now believed to be in error, including but not limited to ""black book bag"; "pink black and white backpack with skulls, hearts, and crossbones"; purple HM backpack")

    DIENA
    Diena and Samuel Thompson are estranged and in the process of divorcing.
    Diena has a live-in boyfriend (CPC, who goes by P).
    Diena said she had lunch at her home on October 19 with SAP, a family friend.
    Diena asked SAP to wait until the kids got home from school. (from narrative MPR, but what was he to do after that?)
    Dena texts SAP around 4 p.m., asking how the kids were; SAP replied that Somer had not come home with the other kids.
    Diena leaves work early to search for Somer.
    Diena felt something was wrong this time, and this is why she responded quickly to news of Somer not making it home that day.
    Diena calls her boyfriend, CPC aka P, at about 4:20 p.m., tells him Somer didn’t come home, and asks him to leave work to help search for her.
    Diena stops at OPAA to pick up oldest son AC.
    Diena flags down D/S A. Coan at the corner of Floyd Circle West and Gano, and reports Somer missing.

    SAMUEL
    Samuel lives in North Carolina and has not seen Somer in 2 years.
    Samuel came to FL on the Sunday after Somer's disappearance.
    Samuel says soot was found on Somer’s body in NG interview). (Later, he recants that statement through relative on WS because the source of this information, his sister LH, is thought to be unreliable.)

    SEAN A. P. (SAP)
    SAP is a close family friend of family.
    SAP is said to have had lunch with Diena at her house on October 19 (in the MPR, he does not state this himself but Diena does).
    SAP is asked to wait at house until kids come home from school. (from MPR narrative; not sure what he was to do after they came home)..
    SAP had not been asked to do this before. This was his first time.
    SAP asks where Somer is when AT and ST arrived around 3:10 p.m.
    SAP sent AT to look for Somer. When she returned about 15 minutes later without her, SAP told her to look again real good before he called Diena.
    SAP gets text from Diena around 4 p.m. asking how the kids were doing; he texts back that Somer did not come home with the other kids and AT is out looking for her.Diena says she will leave work and come look for Somer.
    SAP opened bank account for donations to Somer’s family, and the account is in his name.

    C. PERRY C.
    CPC is Diena's live-in boyfriend.
    CPC gets call about 4:20 p.m. from Diena who tells him Somer didn’t come home; Diena asks him to leave work to help search for her.
    CPC leaves work and drives to the Horton Drive home; arrives at about 5 p.m.
    CPC picks up ST (twin) at the house about 5 p.m. and goes to search for Somer.

    GANO AVENUE HOUSE
    This house caught fire months ago and is being restored.
    Work crews have been at that house.
    VD&B is the contractor working on the house.
    Kyle, who works with the contractor, was there on October 19, and said that Somer came in the yard, told him that he/they were doing a good job on the house, and went back the way she came. (Thanks, MammaD!)
    Kyle is the last person known to see Somer alive.
    There are propane tanks surrounded by a fence about a block the house (toward school).
    J., a minor, was riding his bike home when he saw Somer running around near the tanks and that she he thought she was excited but had a frown on her face.
    OPAA is a park and sporting fields across the street from the house.
    LE searched the house extensively on Thursday and Friday.
    The Gano House was proclaimed a crime scene, as was the search area.

    LAW ENFORCEMENT
    Investigators made the request / recommendation that Somer's casket be closed.

    OTHER PEOPLE
    AB drove Somer to school on October 19.
    AB appeared on TV with Sheriff Beseler. Don't want video to appear in this post: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/33427923#33427923"]msnbc.com.

    A female neighbor who asked that her name not be reported, upon hearing of Somer’s disappearance, tells LE to check the vacant house on Gano Avenue and its dumpster. After Somer is found in the landfill, she said she wishes she would have checked it herself.

    A (different?) female neighbor, when questioned about the trash pick-up day, made a comment that the trash had already been collected that day so to take that however you want to. A member at WS
    posted
    posted
    that it was the woman who drove Somer to school; that would have been AB. I wasn't sure which video it is at the link provided in the post.

    Houses in the vicinity of the Gano house were searched on Tuesday, October 20. The search literally hit home for schools Superintendent Ben Wortham, who lives about 100 yards from the Gano Drive spot where Somer was last seen. About 2 a.m. Tuesday, his house and many others in the vicinity were “searched from top to bottom,” Wortham said.

    GARBAGE
    Bruce Owens, an officer suggests to the sheriff that all trash trucks should be followed and searched so they can isolate the trash coming out of this area, the trash trucks are then followed. (Later reported that Joe Jett gets credit for this.)
    Somer was found dead on October 21 in the Chesser Island Landfill in Fokston, Georgia.
    LE followed the trucks to the Chesser Island Landfill.

    There is at least one video of an interview with Diena that is blacked out-significant portion of interview is missing at the point where DT is recalling something from the day. (Could this just be because it was raw video and they edited out camera man movement?)

    CCSO
    LE searched the Gano Avenue house extensively and the men's room at OPAA briefly and came out with a bag.
    An autopsy was performed, and LE knows the cause of death, but that have not released that information.
    Sheriff reports only one person cleared in the investigation into Somer’s death and that is him.

    RSOs
    There are 161 RSOs that live within 5 miles of Somer’s home.
    CWG’s name and contact info appears on the initial police report (in error as a case of mistaken identity) detailing her disappearance, along with the names of family, neighbors, and others.
    The owner of VD&B has a brother who is an RSO. His name is GCV.
    Since Somer disappeared many RSO’s have been arrested for failing to update their addresses.

    UNRELATED BUT YET, RELATED
    What was thought to be an attempted abduction 10 days before Somer's disappearance turned out not to be an attempted abduction and was not related to Somer's disappearance according to LE. Even after LE said there was no connection, reports on blue Nissans poured in to the CCSO.

    A police report in the Clay County Daily indicated that 4 burglary suspects were arrested at the Thompson home. LE later said that the address was in error and gave this explanation: An officer who was at the Thompson home was called to an unrelated burglary call and made the arrest of 4 individuals but when he filed his report, he forgot to change the address. If you check the Clay County Daily for 11/21, you will find the correct information now.

    CWG's name on the MPR was a result of mistaken identity according to LE.
     
  4. sadnpod

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    I agree a BIG scratch on his neck. I will try to verify who this is. maybe st knows.
     
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    Brought over.

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    Ok I really hate to quote myself. but had to bring this over with the article again.. I tried to get some of you to pick up on what I was trying to tell you .. but the clue game was to hard ...lol esp. for me.. I am terrible at clue.

    here is article ... now I wonder if "kyle" is related to the neighbor Tonya J.?????????????


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    paris paris... LH is st sister .. its here in this article.. chee posted earlier. and a little gem it is too..
    more ways than one..




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    Here's another interesting article from the very early days...

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati..._landfill.html
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    Here is that link.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...irl_somer_thompson_find_body_in_landfill.html
     
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    I couldn't get it to work for me. If you copy from another post they won't work. If you quote them they will.
     
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    Hello there mommaD - good to see you again with all your shining glory!! Do you know if the grandma neighbor is living with her son or daughter? She talks about her grandkids went to school with Somer... she either has custody of her grandkids or is living with either her son or daughter-don't you think?
     
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    Where did everyone go? I swear I didn't pass any gas, wednesday is bath day and I brushed my teeth today, so it can't be me.
     
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    MommaD The Stars Do Not Lie..People Lie

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    oh ok I see thank you. I just rested my mouse that time and didn't click .

    thank you will delete my big azzzz post then .. lol thank you again.
     
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    It doesn't work for me either. Says "page not found". Darn!
     
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    You know it takes a very sick person to do that to a guy. That call needs to be traced, maybe it was from the killer.

    ................................



    That news was an awful blow to her brother, Holt said. He nearly had a breakdown not long after, when someone claiming to be part of the search team in Florida told him they had positively identified the child as his daughter because of a birthmark. The claim was quickly found to be false after a call to the sheriff, she said.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...pson_find_body_in_landfill.html#ixzz0Yal1C3Nj
     
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    hey Chee.. where have you been?? take that long to brush those fangs??? lol


    Don't know who she is living with. can't find the house in her name or any of the grkids names..

    a different article says she lives around the corner 3 houses. but looking at street view I don't see how she sees them come home daily.. if down debarry past the house. maybe lives closer to the school.. I just checked houses around Somer's house..

    so now we have a few to sleuth..
    I am sure that is the brother in law . I can't find crankypersons pic site.
    don't even know if it is on there put some where a lot of us saw the pic and stated that guy by dt was the bil..
     
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    Well mommaD, some of us have to work for a living *wink wink*... does the BIL have some initials? If he does, I don't recall hearing them. Can I buy a vowel???
     
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    You are too!!!:dance:
     
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    I can't remember his name or initials.. I am looking .. gosh we all talked about him long ago. I brought him up couple times and no one noticed. then little later someone noticed and everyone posted for while then nothing .

    this pic here is what everyone commented on at the vigil of him. and I know ppl posted it was the bil and then media wrote about him and his wife (dt sister) stills like at the visitation and funeral etc.


    http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/...er Thompson/?action=view&current=Capture2.jpg
     
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    Well if he is bil, and it is a scratch and not a scar (i'd like to see a more recent photo to see if it's gone now), added to the fact that most children are harmed by family members than are harmed by strangers, then he is someone worth looking into.

    We've questioned him a few times, like who is he, he looks suspect etc etc.
    but then it always get dropped with, oh he's the bil.
    That's probably even more reason to check him out, imo.
     
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    Please do not quote in its entirety.

    Instead, use the Quote button and delete everything but the parts you want to discuss. This post is huge.




    List of FACTS in Somer's case: Version V

    Credit for compiling goes to: [ame="http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4387978&postcount=757"]SharetheLight[/ame], Doggies, Dee10, MammaD, CCane, and Many Others (it's a work in progress).

    These are facts as reported by media and/or from the MPR. Tried to put links to source where available.

    Called this version Part I so when editing time on this post is up, this can be copied and added to and we can call that one Version II and so on.

    SOMER
    Somer Thompson was 7 years old when she disappeared on October 19, 2009.
    Somer was wearing a cranberry jumpsuit (jogging suit?) with a matching top to the bottom and pink satin stripes down the sides of arms and legs, and a black shirt underneath.
    Somer's birthday is April 5, 2002.
    Somer was not in the habit of wandering off, according to her mom in video (on left, scroll down in video list) Diena Thompson Addresses The Media.
    Somer routinely wandered around and nobody knew where she was, according to a babysitter.
    Somer wore a red ribbon in her ponytail on October 19.
    AB (neighbor) drove Somer to school on October 19 and said it was a normal morning and Somer was her usual self.
    Somer went to school (GPE) and left school at regular time (2:32 p.m.).
    Somer was walking home with a group of kids that included sister AT and brother AT.
    Something happened on the walk home and Somer ran ahead to walk alone.
    An AMBER Alert was issued on Tuesday morning. It does not mention the book bag or lunchbox, but mentions her possibly wearing white hat and scarf. JPG of AMBER Alert :star1: JPG of AMBER Alert
    Somer lived with her mom Diena Thompson, her twin brother ST, her older sister AT. (Unsure whether half-brother AC lived with them)
    Somer's body was found at Chesser Island Landfill in Folkston, GA. She was tentatively identified by her clothing and a birthmark.
    Somer's lunchbox and book bag (see sketches as released by LE and shown on AMW) have not been found. Details first reported on AMW November 7. (Previous reports had not mentioned description of lunchbox; backpack/book bag was described several ways, now believed to be in error, including but not limited to ""black book bag"; "pink black and white backpack with skulls, hearts, and crossbones"; purple HM backpack")

    DIENA
    Diena and Samuel Thompson are estranged and in the process of divorcing.
    Diena has a live-in boyfriend (CPC, who goes by P).
    Diena said she had lunch at her home on October 19 with SAP, a family friend.
    Diena asked SAP to wait until the kids got home from school. (from narrative MPR, but what was he to do after that?)
    Dena texts SAP around 4 p.m., asking how the kids were; SAP replied that Somer had not come home with the other kids.
    Diena leaves work early to search for Somer.
    Diena felt something was wrong this time, and this is why she responded quickly to news of Somer not making it home that day.
    Diena calls her boyfriend, CPC aka P, at about 4:20 p.m., tells him Somer didn’t come home, and asks him to leave work to help search for her.
    Diena stops at OPAA to pick up oldest son AC.
    Diena flags down D/S A. Coan at the corner of Floyd Circle West and Gano, and reports Somer missing.

    SAMUEL
    Samuel lives in North Carolina and has not seen Somer in 2 years.
    Samuel came to FL on the Sunday after Somer's disappearance.
    Samuel says soot was found on Somer’s body in NG interview). (Later, he recants that statement through relative on WS because the source of this information, his sister LH, is thought to be unreliable.)

    SEAN A. P. (SAP)
    SAP is a close family friend of family.
    SAP is said to have had lunch with Diena at her house on October 19 (in the MPR, he does not state this himself but Diena does).
    SAP is asked to wait at house until kids come home from school. (from MPR narrative; not sure what he was to do after they came home)..
    SAP had not been asked to do this before. This was his first time.
    SAP asks where Somer is when AT and ST arrived around 3:10 p.m.
    SAP sent AT to look for Somer. When she returned about 15 minutes later without her, SAP told her to look again real good before he called Diena.
    SAP gets text from Diena around 4 p.m. asking how the kids were doing; he texts back that Somer did not come home with the other kids and AT is out looking for her.Diena says she will leave work and come look for Somer.
    SAP opened bank account for donations to Somer’s family, and the account is in his name.

    C. PERRY C.
    CPC is Diena's live-in boyfriend.
    CPC gets call about 4:20 p.m. from Diena who tells him Somer didn’t come home; Diena asks him to leave work to help search for her.
    CPC leaves work and drives to the Horton Drive home; arrives at about 5 p.m.
    CPC picks up ST (twin) at the house about 5 p.m. and goes to search for Somer.

    GANO AVENUE HOUSE
    This house caught fire months ago and is being restored.
    Work crews have been at that house.
    [VD&B is the contractor working on the house.
    Kyle, who works with the contractor, was there on October 19, and said that Somer came in the yard, told him that he/they were doing a good job on the house, and went back the way she came. (Thanks, MammaD!)
    Kyle is the last person known to see Somer alive.
    There are propane tanks surrounded by a fence about a block the house (toward school).
    J., a minor, was riding his bike home when he saw Somer running around near the tanks and that she he thought she was excited but had a frown on her face.
    OPAA is a park and sporting fields across the street from the house.
    LE searched the house extensively on Thursday and Friday.
    The Gano House was proclaimed a crime scene, as was the search area.

    LAW ENFORCEMENT
    LE searched the Gano Avenue house extensively and the men's room at OPAA briefly and came out with a bag.
    An autopsy was performed, and LE knows the cause of death, but that have not released that information.
    Sheriff reports only one person cleared in the investigation into Somer’s death and that is him.

    Investigators made the request / recommendation that Somer's casket be closed.[/color]

    OTHER PEOPLE
    AB drove Somer to school on October 19.
    AB appeared on TV with Sheriff Beseler. Don't want video to appear in this post: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/33427923#33427923"]msnbc.com.

    A female neighbor who asked that her name not be reported, upon hearing of Somer’s disappearance, tells LE to check the vacant house on Gano Avenue and its dumpster. After Somer is found in the landfill, she said she wishes she would have checked it herself.

    A (different?) female neighbor, when questioned about the trash pick-up day, made a comment that the trash had already been collected that day so to take that however you want to. A member at WS [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4322499&postcount=253"]posted[/ame] that it was the woman who drove Somer to school; that would have been AB. I wasn't sure which video it is at the link provided in the post.

    Houses in the vicinity of the Gano house were searched on Tuesday, October 20. The search literally hit home for schools Superintendent Ben Wortham, who lives about 100 yards from the Gano Drive spot where Somer was last seen. About 2 a.m. Tuesday, his house and many others in the vicinity were “searched from top to bottom,” Wortham said.

    GARBAGE
    Bruce Owens, an officer suggests to the sheriff that all trash trucks should be followed and searched so they can isolate the trash coming out of this area, the trash trucks are then followed. (Later reported that Joe Jett gets credit for this.)
    Somer was found dead on October 21 in the Chesser Island Landfill in Fokston, Georgia.
    LE followed the trucks to the Chesser Island Landfill.

    There is at least one video of an interview with Diena that is blacked out-significant portion of interview is missing at the point where DT is recalling something from the day. (Could this just be because it was raw video and they edited out camera man movement?)

    RSOs
    There are 161 RSOs that live within 5 miles of Somer’s home.
    CWG’s name and contact info appears on the initial police report (in error as a case of mistaken identity) detailing her disappearance, along with the names of family, neighbors, and others.
    The owner of VD&B has a brother who is an RSO. His name is GCV.
    Since Somer disappeared many RSO’s have been arrested for failing to update their addresses.

    UNRELATED BUT YET, RELATED
    What was thought to be an attempted abduction 10 days before Somer's disappearance turned out not to be an attempted abduction and was not related to Somer's disappearance according to LE. Even after LE said there was no connection, reports on blue Nissans poured in to the CCSO.

    A police report in the Clay County Daily indicated that 4 burglary suspects were arrested at the Thompson home. LE later said that the address was in error and gave this explanation: An officer who was at the Thompson home was called to an unrelated burglary call and made the arrest of 4 individuals but when he filed his report, he forgot to change the address. If you check the Clay County Daily for 11/21, you will find the correct information now.

    CWG's name on the MPR was a result of mistaken identity according to LE.
     
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