FL FL - Tampa, WhtMale 634UMFL, 50-70, known as 'Lloyd', Aug'88

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  1. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    The Doe Network:
    Case File 634UMFL

    http://doenetwork.org/cases/634umfl.html

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    Reconstruction of Victim by Wesley Neville

    Unidentified White Male

    * The victim was discovered on August 27, 1988 in Tampa, Hillsborough County, Florida

    Vital Statistics

    * Estimated age: 50 - 70 years old
    * Approximate Height and Weight: 6'0"; 136 lbs
    * Clothing: Black belt, blue/white shirt, black shoes, white socks, blue trousers.
    * DNA: Available
    * Dentals: No x-rays available

    Case History
    The victim was located in an alley behind 703 W. Bay Street in Tampa, Florida on August 27, 1988.
    AKA "Lloyd"; known street person.
     
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  3. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    This guy looks spot on like John Davis Keefer, who was just added to DoeNet today.
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1395dmtx.html

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    However, his height and age are a little off, and his name is not "Lloyd".

    Also, the UID was a known street person, but for how long was he known?

    I'd say probably not the same guy, but I am putting it up anyway because the resemblance is so striking.
     
  4. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    http://doenetwork.org/cases/729dmca.html
    I'd say this is probably a no but his name is Lloyd, his height is an exact match and his age is in the range. The timing is ten years off but it would have given him time to become "a known street person".

    The location is on the other side of the country and supposedly something about his circumstance suggests foul play locally.

    The resemblance does not strike me as "wow, that's the same man for sure" and he would have to have lost 70 pounds while missing. That's quite possible while living on the street I guess and it could account for some facial differences but if the reconstruction (large version here http://www.hillsboroughcounty.org/index.aspx?NID=360) is accurate Lloyd the street person seems to have had blue eyes and Lloyd Farrar was brown-eyed. Not sure how much artistic licence there is in the reconstruction.
     
  5. Angie4b1g

    Angie4b1g New Member

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    Yes that's scary close!
     
  6. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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  7. carbuff

    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    Definitely worth submitting, I'd say. Lloyd might well be a nickname or a name he picked at random after he left home, and while the stats are a little off, the height is still in range and 50-70 is awfully broad.
     
  8. kpdx

    kpdx Jane Doe was discovered Aug. 14, 1977 outside of E

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  9. carbuff

    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    5'9" to 6' wouldn't be much of a stretch, but 5'6" would be. I'm wondering about Anthony's tattoo -- but the UID's entry is so sparse, they might just not have bothered to mention it.
     
  10. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    He sounds like someone who could become a known street person but he's a little young if the age range 50-70 is correct.
     
  11. carbuff

    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    He does sound like someone we should keep an eye out for in our homeless UIDs, doesn't he?
     
  12. carbuff

    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    Ruleouts as of 15 March 2015 per Namus https://identifyus.org/en/cases/196

    The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:

    First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA

    Howard Gratteau 1947 Florida
    John O'Connor 1944 Florida
    Kenneth Schweighart 1935 New Jersey
     
  13. ralynn

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    Did anything ever come of this? I was looking at John Davis Keefer's case and wow! That resemblance is very striking.

    I have submitted a potential match to DoeNet for John Keefer and Case File 634UMFL.
     
  14. rats

    rats Where is Justice for the Jane and John Does?

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    Glad to see John Keefer submitted -- I wonder if we should submit Lloyd Farrar to be on the safe side?
     

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