Framejob

Discussion in 'Long Island Serial Killer' started by LINative13, Feb 9, 2013.

  1. LINative13

    LINative13 New Member

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    Well it's been hinted at several times by several people. I am not for or against this theory, but here to goes.

    Anyone have any thoughts on the possibility that CPH is being set up?
     
  2. LINative13

    LINative13 New Member

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    I want to hear everyone's thoughts. Like I said, I am not for or against this theory.

    If I'm in violation of tos, I appologize
     
  3. deedee21

    deedee21 Well-Known Member

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    To the moderator, I hit the red triangle by mistake when responding to Native.: Mari might be the best person to answer that question. What accent did the first caller have? Everyone is familar with the ny accent. Or was it hispanic or other. She must have had a first impression when she hung up.
     
  4. deedee21

    deedee21 Well-Known Member

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    Also did the caller say she left with Michael Pak or Michael. How would CPH know his last name.
     
  5. deedee21

    deedee21 Well-Known Member

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    If a burner phone was used I would say yes. Who at Oak Beach has a reputation that proceeds them?
     
  6. LINative13

    LINative13 New Member

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    I'm not talking about someone at OB. I'm talking about MP and AD setting him up. But if you guys want to include the other scenarios, go for it,
     
  7. PreciousDust

    PreciousDust New Member

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    It's gotta be a set-up; he seems like a sweet guy.

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  8. shadowraiths

    shadowraiths LISK Liaison, Verified Forensic Psychology Special Staff Member Moderator

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    I am skeptical that he was set up. However, if he were, my guess would be to distract attention away from MP and AD.
     
  9. Mountain_Kat

    Mountain_Kat Heca, firimar!

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    I don't think anyone was trying to set him up. (I'll stop myself right there.)
     
  10. ps149

    ps149 New Member

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    I found something that I'm still trying to wrap my head around. Once I sort it out I will post what I've found.
     
  11. WINDSOR

    WINDSOR Active Member

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    One of the best defenses to avoid conviction is the one of reasonable doubt. If I commit a crime, and can convince a jury that Mr. Other Suspect could have committed the crime, I will get off.

    If the neighbors are trying to frame CPH they have not done a very good job, as CPH has not been arrested, or even detained for questioning. After a couple years and CPH moving away they have likely given up.

    That leaves MP. Could he be trying to frame CPH. Could he be contacting LE and John Ray with anonymous tips implicating CPH? Quite possibly. No doubt investigators working for John Ray have spoken to MP. Quite possibly info received from MP is crucial to their case against CPH.

    This leads to the big question regarding the allegation in the John Ray suit. Did CPH after treating SG turn her over to MP? Since we know CPH has denied treating SG, John Ray has to have some stronger evidence of the treatment by CPH taking place rather than just neighborhood gossip.

    What if MP said 'I took SG to CPH and then left Oak Beach alone. I came back two days later with AD, SG's boyfriend, and went to CPH to see how SG was doing under his care. CPH told me she left'. That sure shifts the spotlight onto CPH.

    MOO
     
  12. deedee21

    deedee21 Well-Known Member

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    This case really should go to a deposition. Its the only way what happen that morning will come out.
     
  13. ps149

    ps149 New Member

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    I hope it does. I truly do.
     
  14. LINative13

    LINative13 New Member

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    The clothes directly behind the house is just super super convenient. I think MP drove away and chucked them out his window (after she runs into the doc) on his way out of there. Did he leave with her? I don't know.
     
  15. mcme

    mcme Driven away

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    I need to say this is a little silly. CPH won't have to say a word until MG shows that someone, who cares who. called her on the day SG disappeare///d
     
  16. deedee21

    deedee21 Well-Known Member

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    I dont think her clothes were that close to road.
     
  17. PreciousDust

    PreciousDust New Member

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    Well, I was making a joke (someone with that name recorded a song about romance and flowers). The reason I even made the joke, though, is that it's my record - I collect them or, more precisely, buy and sell them, and I just ran into this one the other day while on a "dig". I took the photos. The record was pressed in 1920, and Charles Hackett was a notable operatic singer of the day, recording both classical and popular tracks (old films of him doing his thing can be found on youtube). I have no idea if this Charles Hackett is related to CPH, though I'd note that it's a common enough name (so, perhaps not). The record itself plays at 78rpm. It's not composed of vinyl, but rather a composite of different materials coated with shellac (the vinyl record we're more familiar with didn't come along until 1950). 78's are brittle and can snap easily, but in other respects are actually quite durable (for instance, they can be washed with soap and water in the sink to give them a good cleaning, which would be too vigorous an approach for a more modern record). 78's are also a bit complicated to play, as most turntables don't offer a 78 speed; also, a much "fatter" stylus is needed to faithfully reproduce the sound. Lastly, I think it's of interest that although this record is almost 100 years old, and in quite fine condition, it's only worth a couple of dollars - 78's were one of the few forms of entertainment at the time, and large pressings were common (and owners took good care of them). Some 78's, of course, are worth up to four figures, perhaps most notably blues records pressed in small numbers and recorded by the giants of the genre like Robert Johnson.
     
  18. To Kill a Mockingbird

    To Kill a Mockingbird Karma Will Get LISK!!!

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    Robert Johnson as in THIS Robert Johnson?

    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Johnson"]Robert Johnson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
     
  19. PreciousDust

    PreciousDust New Member

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    Sure. Real pleasant lyrics, too (and I agree, mods should delete all this if they feel it's too off-topic).

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNJaCyxKTgM"]Robert Johnson - Me and The Devil Blues - JazzAndBluesExperience - YouTube[/ame]

    Early this morning
    When you knocked upon my door
    Early this morning, oooo
    When you knocked upon my door
    And I said hello Satan
    I believe it's time to go


    <modsnip>
     
  20. LINative13

    LINative13 New Member

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    And bte I think you guys are givin fluke too much credit. Although I admire his passion and dedication; I hardly think he has the brains to pull off something this big. CPH threw his own hat into the ring. First by calling the. By lying
     

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