France - 5 shot, 4 dead in French Alps, may have int'l ramifications, 2012 #2

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  1. colette

    colette Well-Known Member

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    Very interesting. He could be a good canidate for the murders especially since he probably has already killed a girl child and an adult man.
     


  2. Ellmau

    Ellmau Well-Known Member

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  3. ZaZara

    ZaZara AstraZaZara

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    More info about Nordahl Lelandais can be found on the Maëlys case:

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ys-De-Araujo-9-Pont-de-Beauvoisin-27-Aug-2017

    Starting on page 35 of that thread, info about other suspicions begins to appear.

    The link with Chévaline is not very strong (as of now).

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...eauvoisin-27-Aug-2017&p=13827005#post13827005
     
  4. al66pine

    al66pine Well-Known Member

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    Family Murders in 2012, Still Not Solved?
    I followed this thread early on, but after several months not so much. After running across a 2015 longform article in GQ.com, I first decided to check Annecy shootings - Wikipedia for quickie version. It gives several leads and theories.

    Then I read GQ article How To Get Away With (the Perfect) Murder.

    "How To Get Away With (the Perfect) Murder
    Four dead, an ever-expanding list of suspects, dozens of detectives on the case. Three years after the fact, a mysterious shooting in the French Alps has evolved into one of the most confounding, globe-spanning criminal investigations in decades
    BY SEAN FLYNN"


    Anyone new to case/interested in summaries of events or refreshers might want to read ^ links.
    Sad that there's been no definitive resolution.
     
  5. kimmie0313

    kimmie0313 Active Member

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    Thanks for this! I was sure hoping for a resolution on this case by now.
     
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  6. ttcRider

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    I think of this case every once in a while and have to google it to see if there's any updates. I need to 'watch this tread'.
     
  7. Ellmau

    Ellmau Well-Known Member

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  8. ZaZara

    ZaZara AstraZaZara

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    Very interesting reading. Though this made me smile:

    I would expect to see this on many roadsigns in woods in the South of Europe in hunting areas and not specifically consider it the way the author does
    Nothing came of it, of course.
     
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  9. ZaZara

    ZaZara AstraZaZara

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    However, after my previous post about the road signs, THIS remark about the location of the shooter and the car being British with the driver on the right-hand side, is very interesting:

     
  10. Officer Dibble

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  11. ZaZara

    ZaZara AstraZaZara

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    Has been shared and has no relevance to the shooting.

    If you put "ex-husband" in the search window in the upper right corner and select the option "search this thread only" you will find all there is about the ex-husband on this thread.
     
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  12. Officer Dibble

    Officer Dibble Well-Known Member

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    Thank you ZaZara. I have just read the entire thread apart from this last page. Apologies for duplicating.
     
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  13. ZaZara

    ZaZara AstraZaZara

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    Took me a while to find the search window, so I thought I'd let you know. And kudos for reading the entire thread, it is not the happiest of readings.

    I wonder how the daughters are doing. Hope the press leaves them alone, but a tiny update through the investigation in France would be nice.
     
  14. Snoopster

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    I feel badly for having forgotten about this case! That poor family and cyclist.

    I'll have to refresh my memory. It's unfortunate that there is a never-ending stream of sad cases. :(
     
  15. ZaZara

    ZaZara AstraZaZara

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    Haute-Savoie. Chevaline : les fillettes entendues 8 ans après

    Haute-Savoie | British authorities have given "a green light in principle" to the Chevaline investigators: the young daughters will be questioned 8 years after the facts

    While the Chevaline murders on September 5, 2012 in Haute Savoie, will mark their eighth anniversary this Saturday, the investigation into the case, still unsolved, could get a new impulse with the hearing of the two orphaned girls, now aged 12 and 15 years respectively.


    BBM


    The rest of the article is hidden behind a paywall.
     
  16. MrsWatson

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    Wow, those dear girls. I hope they are doing okay and this does not re-traumatize them all over. I'm guessing it will be done with the utmost of care.

    I never know what to think about this case.
     
  17. MrsWatson

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    Thanks for that article @al66pine . Very good recap.
     
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  18. mrtnira

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    What if the whole evil murder scene was the product of road rage?

    The murderer could have simply driven into their lives, exploded in violence, and driven away with no identifiable connection to anything else. At that point, the man's family relationship to Iraq, to business, or to anything else would be a complete dead end in any relevant way to solving the murder.
     
  19. ZaZara

    ZaZara AstraZaZara

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    There was nowhere to drive to. The road into the mountains continues, but no car was observed there. The investigators had their eye on the man on the motorcycle who was seen in the woods, but it turned out he had nothing to do with the case.

    IMO the murderer came and left on foot. He wasn't a pro, given the number of shots and the weapon. The victims were random. Wrong place, wrong time.
     
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  20. Officer Dibble

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    But is it at all possible that, for instance, a road rage driver either (a) followed them for a while at a distance and it just so happens that any witnesses didn't see this vehicle or (b) there was road rage the day before, the family were followed then followed the next day - sort of road rage combined with racism, perhaps? Again their mode of transport not being seen. I do agree mostly they appeared on foot but just wondering if the aforementioned is feasible or not? JMO MOO
     
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