France - 5 shot, 4 dead in French Alps, may have int'l ramifications, 2012 #2

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  1. crazychris

    crazychris Well-Known Member

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    They do if they want to do a clean expert job and leave absolutely no witnesses. Strange that he didn't kill the older girl. Maybe he did have a heart.
     


  2. crazychris

    crazychris Well-Known Member

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    They do if they want to do a clean job and leave no witnesses. Strange that he didn't kill the older girl. Maybe he did have a heart. She lives with a relative now at an undisclosed location and both girls had armed police bodyguards at first. Not sure if they still do.
     
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  3. ZaZara

    ZaZara AstraZaZara

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    For motorized traffic, with the exception of the vehicles of forest workers and farmers, the road ends at the small parking area.

    A cyclist has no reason to stop there, cyclists can continue on their way.

    If a shooter was waiting there for a target, IMO it is more logical to assume that he was waiting for a car to arrive, most likely tourists wanting to go for a walk.

    If he had wanted to shoot just anyone, why not aim at the forest workers nearby? Possibly because he was a local and did not want to attack those of his own 'tribe'?
     
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  4. ZaZara

    ZaZara AstraZaZara

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    We're lucky! I thought this was behind a paywall, but it only takes your willingness to watch one commercial and there it is. The interview with the departing Prosecutor dates from September 4, 2021.

    Tuerie de Chevaline : pourquoi les enquêteurs butent encore sur cette énigme judiciaire hors norme



    More than 80 volumes, thousands of documents. The Chevaline case file is undeniably "extraordinary". And, nine years after the mysterious massacre, it is still "active" and "no one has given up," Véronique Denizot underlines. She worked on this investigation for five years at the head of the Annecy public prosecutor's office. Before her departure this summer, the prosecutor agreed to take stock of the situation.

    The judicial investigation that opened in 2012, is in the hands of two investigating judges in Annecy. A group from the Chambéry investigation unit (SR) is continuing the investigation in conjunction with a British team.

    One of the challenges of the last few years was to "keep the records" of the case. "The SR has done what was necessary to make sure that its historical investigators and the new ones are in contact with each other," Véronique Denizot explains. A handover at a time when some gendarmes have been transferred or have retired. The same handover at the public prosecutor's office took place between Véronique Denizot and Line Bonnet-Mathis, who took up her post on 1 September. "There will be no loss of knowledge", she assures us. It was also necessary to keep the most detailed picture possible of the crime scene. New technical findings were made, including a model of the Combe d'Ire.

    On the investigation side, the file was "completely revised" from 2019, with certain points rechecked or re-examined with the new tools in the investigators' possession. The leads opened in 2012 had already been closed one after the other.

    Today, the "local lead" is the preferred one. None of the other hypotheses, such as that of a hired killer, have been successful. "The crime benefits no one, that's why it's difficult, because in fact it's a crime without a motive," analyses Véronique Denizot, ruling out a whole series of motives (professional, espionage, sentimental, money or family). The cyclist Sylvain Mollier and the Al-Hilli family would therefore have found themselves there "at the wrong time."

    But the main piece of the puzzle is still missing: the shooter. "We don't know who was there and, for the moment, we have no means of identifying him as such. On the other hand, the investigators know that he was alone and have constructed a sequence of events. "We know how the killer could have proceeded, but how he got there, where he came from, how he left, where he left from, at what time, we don't know."

    The author of the crimes might therefore have been "disturbed in what he was doing there," and felt that "Mr Mollier and the Al-Hilli family saw something they were not supposed to see." Also, Véronique Denizot evoked "a necessarily particular personality," who knew how to handle weapons, capable of killing in cold blood.

    Will the case ever be solved?

    In any case, Véronique Denizot wants to believe it. "I remain convinced that this case can be solved by a stroke of luck, by a denunciation, by a repentance, by something," she confides. Legal cases have been resolved a long time later.

    It could come one day from a psychological profile that matches the killer or a DNA reading that "matches" a suspect. Not to mention that the investigators still receive reports, but also phone calls from colleagues working on other cases elsewhere in France. And then, systematic checks are carried out when an old weapon appears in an investigation in Haute-Savoie.

    "The passage of time is working against us", Véronique Denizot admits, "but there is no reason why we shouldn't find something."


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    "The crime benefits no one"
     
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    Ellmau Well-Known Member

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    Well, as far as we know.
     
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    Unfortunately it sounds like it will be due to a stroke of luck if this case is ever solved.

    Thank you for your continued dedication to this case @ZaZara.
     
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  7. ZaZara

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    Another piece of the interview with the departing Prosecutor, from September 4. Hidden behind the same paywall that opens when you watch a commercial.

    Tuerie de Chevaline : que deviennent les fillettes Al-Hilli?

    Chevaline massacre: what happened to the Al-Hilli girls?

    They are the only survivors of the Chevaline massacre. Zainab and Zeena, now 13 and 16, are now living in England, where they are being cared for by their family. In September 2020, the Annecy prosecutor Véronique Denizot announced that they were to be re-interviewed by British investigators. When she left her post at the end of July, the former Annecy magistrate did not wish to give further details. "I am not communicating any more about the hearing," she replied, explaining that "the family that takes care of these children remains understandably worried as long as we have not clarified this case."

    However, Véronique Denizot urges caution. "We must not get our hopes up too much, as the children's hearing could come up empty," she confided. The two girls were indeed very young at the time of the events and nine years have passed since then.

    However, the two teenagers were seen by an expert within the framework of the commission for compensation of victims of crime (Civi). "They are foreigners, but they were victims on French territory, hence they are entitled to compensation for their losses from the victims' compensation guarantee fund," Véronique Denizot tells.

    The results of the expertise are reassuring. "They are doing well today, I think, (...) as well as possible given what they have experienced, one physically and psychologically, the other only psychologically."


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