France - Explosions and shooting in Paris, 13 November 2015 #2

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    Waddles New Member

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    Hi everyone, sorry for not checking in. It's been utter shock here. Myself and friends and family are deeply shaken. Several separate friends were in the thick of it and will never get over what they saw. I will post more tomorrow. We are deeply shocked but we won't let this take over our lives. Love you guys
     
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    The arms used prove how difficult it is for France – which has strict weapons laws – to tackle flow of illegal weaponry across Europe’s porous borders

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/15/paris-attacks-highlight-frances-gun-control-problems

     
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    List to be updated as names are added.

    Here are the victims’ names that have been made public so far:

    Nohemi Gonzalez, 23: A junior design student at Long Beach State University from El Monte, California, Gonzalez was studying abroad at Strate School of Design in Sevres, France. She was killed in a shooting outside of a restaurant.

    Valentin Ribet, 26: A lawyer who studied at the London School of Economics, Ribet died at the Bataclan concert hall, the school said.

    Djamila Houd, 41: Houd one of the French victims killed in the attacks, according to The Guardian. She was killed at the Bataclan.

    Thomas Ayad, 34: Ayad is another French victim identified so far, according to The Guardian. He was also killed at the Bataclan. He worked for Universal Music France and played for a local amateur hockey team.

    Nick Alexander, 36: Alexander, of Colchester, Essex, England, was selling merchandise at the Eagles of Death Metal show at the Bataclan when he was killed, according to The Independent.

    Lola Salines: Salines has been identified as one of the victims by her father, Georges Salines. She was killed at the Bataclan concert hall. She was a member of the La Boucherie de Paris roller derby team.

    Juan Alberto González Garrido, 29: A Madrid native, he was killed at the Bataclan concert hall, according to Marca. He was at the Eagles of Death Metal show with his wife.

    William B. Decherf, 43: Decherf was a French music journalist for the website InRocks, who was killed while at the Bataclan for the Eagles of Death Metal concert, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

    Asta Diakite: Diakite was a cousin of French soccer player Lassana Diarra, who said on Twitter she was killed in the attacks. Diarra, who was playing with the French national team in Paris when the attacks occurred, said his cousin was like a sister to him.

    Elodie Breuil, 23: Breuil’s brother, Alexis, told Time his sister was killed while watching the Eagles of Death Metal at the Bataclan. He said his sister was a design student.

    Cedric Mauduit: Manduit was a local councilor in Calvados, France. He was at the Bataclan with friends when he was killed.

    Mathieu Hoche: Hoche was a journalist for the France 24 news station, according to the BBC. A colleague tweeted that he is survived by a 6-year-old son.

    Quentin Boulanger, 29: A Paris resident originally from Rheims, France, Boulanger was killed at the Bataclan theater, the BBC reports.

    Mohamed Amine Benmbarek: A citizen of Morocco, Benmbarek was identified on Facebook by a relative. He was a newlywed, and his wife was also shot in the attacks. She is in critical condition, said Akram Benmbarek, Mohamed’s cousin.

    Fabrice Dubois: The ad agency Publicis Conseil said one of its employees, Dubois, was killed at the Bataclan theater. He worked for the agency for 20 years and leaves behind a wife and children.

    François-Xavier Prévost, 26: Prevost was killed at the Bataclan, La Voix Du Nord reports. He was at the concert hall with friends. He lived in Paris and was originally from Lambersart, France.

    Milko Jozic, 47: Dogan was killed along with his girlfriend, Elif Dogan, according to LaMeuse.be. He lived with his girlfriend near the Bataclan. They had moved to Paris from their native country of Belgium in the past few months.

    Elif Dogan: Dogan was living with her boyfriend, Milko Jozic, near the Bataclan. They had moved to Paris from Belgium recently, according to LaMeuse.be.

    Elsa Delplace: Deplace and her mother, Patricia San Martin, of Chile, were killed at the Bataclan theater, her friend said on Twitter. Deplace and her mother were Chilean, but living in Paris. Her friend said Deplace had a 6-year-old daughter.

    Patricia San Martin:San Martin was killed at the Bataclan theater along with her daughter, Elsa Delplace. She and her daughter were both natives of Chile living in Paris.

    Luis Felipe Zschoche Valle:Valle was the third Chilean citizen killed in the attacks at the Bataclan, CNN reports. He was a musician living in Paris for the past eight years.

    Mathias Dymarski: Dymarski, originally from Metz, France, had moved to Paris last Fall. He was killed at the Bataclan theater along with his girlfriend, Marie Lausch, Le Republican Lorrain reported.

    Marie Lausch: Lausch moved to Paris from Metz, France, in September 2014 with her boyfriend, Mathias Dymarski. They were both killed at the Bataclan theater.

    Aurélie de Peretti, 33: De Peretti was killed in the Bataclan theater, her sister told Time. She was from Saint Tropez, in the south of France, and loved music. She played the guitar and piano.

    Halima Saadi, 34: Halima Saadi, and her sister, Houda, of Tunisia, were both killed at a restaurant where they were celebrating a friend’s birthday, News 24 reports. The sisters were living in France with their brother, who survived the attack.

    Houda Saadi, 35: Houda Saadi was killed at a restaurant targeted by ISIS gunmen in Paris along with her sister Halima. The Tunisian women were living in France with their brother, who survived the attack. They were at the restaurant to celebrate a friend’s birthday.

    Manuel Dias, 63: A Portuguese citizen, Dias moved to France 45 years ago, the Portuguese American Journal reports. He lived with his wife and children in France. His wife and children were in Portugal to obtain documents for his son’s upcoming wedding, the newspaper reported.

    Marie Mosser, 24: An employee of Universal Music France, where she worked in communications and marketing, Mosser was killed at the Bataclan theater, CNN reports.

    http://heavy.com/news/2015/11/paris...vember-11-13-2015-americans-countries-number/
     
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    PARIS SUICIDE VESTS MARK CHANGE OF TACTICS AND NEW THREAT


    AFP France
    http://news.yahoo.com/paris-suicide...-182119483.html;_ylt=A0LEVv40AUlW1kUATEhjmolQ

    The suicide vests used Friday by attackers in Paris -- a first in France -- were made by a highly-skilled professional who could still be at large in Europe, intelligence and security experts say.

    All seven of the assailants who died in attacks wore identical explosive vests and did not hesitate to blow themselves up -- a worrying change of tactic for jihadists targeting France.

    Unlike the attacks in London in 2005 where the bombers' explosives were stored in backpacks, Friday's assailants used the sort of suicide vests normally associated with bombings in the Middle East.

    "Suicide vests require a munitions specialist. To make a reliable and effective explosive is not something anyone can do," a former French intelligence chief told AFP, speaking on condition of anonymity.

    "A munitions specialist is someone who is used to handling explosives, who knows how to make them, to arrange them in a way that the belt or vest is not so unwieldy that the person can't move," he added.


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    Waddles. Great to see you. Love to you and yours too and courage.
     
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    A SEA OF DEAD PEOPLE

    http://www.itele.fr/france/video/un...cetait-une-maree-humaine-de-gens-morts-143659

    Melissa took refuge in a technical room where she was with other people on Friday evening at the Bataclan. "We heard gunfire for an hour but also grenade explosions," says Melissa. "Everyone in the room remained calm, that is what saved us our life," she says. And: "We were very afraid, when a phone rang and one time a terrorist tried to open the door." Fortunately without success as a young man clutched the handle of the other side. "Every minute we thought we would die," recalls Melissa.
    Special agents of RAID secured the place after the attack, and the people from the technical room were finally able to leave through the hall of the Bataclan. "It was a human sea of dead people, it was awful," Melissa recalls.


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    Death toll confirmed at 129

    350 injured of those 42 in critical condition

    Families have mostly now found their loved ones at the various hospital and visiting

    No blood donations today, Sunday, but will resume in the morning.

    http://www.france24.com/en/ live stream


    Momoffourboys, CARIIS, Elley Mae, ZaZara and all the WSers contributing your thoughts and posting information, I can't tell you how much it means to me to be in the company of such amazing well considered, kind and wise people trying to make sense of things and your active concern. Welcome to newcomers, I hope you join and pitch in. Thank you so much for everything. As magz said, it is an honor.

    Long Live France
     
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    Elley Mae The enemy is here. beware

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    The Salah brothers lived in Molenbeek, an impoverished section of Brussels that is mostly populated by immigrants from the Arab world and that has been linked to violence. “We don’t have control of the situation in Molenbeek at present,” Mr. Jambon told VRT, a television channel.

    Amedy Coulibaly, who was involved in the deadly assault on a Jewish supermarket in January, is believed to have bought weapons in Molenbeek, as is Mehdi Nemmouche, a Frenchman who targeted the Jewish Museum of Belgium in 2014, killing four people. Ayoub El Khazzani, a Moroccan who was thwarted in his attempt to attack passengers on a high-speed train traveling to Paris from Amsterdam, is also thought to have lived there for a while.


    “I notice that each time there is a link with Molenbeek,” Prime Minister Charles Michel of Belgium said on Sunday. “This is a gigantic problem.”


    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/16/world/europe/paris-terror-attack.html?_r=0

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    Snip

    The raid ... including 10 fighter jets, was launched simultaneously from the United Arab Emirates and Jordan. Twenty bombs were dropped," the statement said, adding that the mission had taken place this evening.

    The operation, carried out in coordination with U.S. forces, struck a command center, recruitment center for the armed groups, a munitions depot and a training camp for fighters, it said.

    http://america.aljazeera.com/articl...airstrikes-into-isil-stronghold-in-syria.html
     
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    Elley Mae The enemy is here. beware

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    He was apparently spoken to by officers on Saturday morning when they pulled over a car carrying three people near the Belgian border.

    Police then checked Abdeslam's ID and subsequently let him go, officials told the Associated Press.

    http://news.sky.com/story/1588193/police-let-fugitive-suspect-go-after-attacks

    The incident came just hours after authorities had identified him as the person who rented the Polo which was abandoned at the scene of the attack.
     
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    MIKAYOYO What?

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    Paris attacks: five things the world must do in response



    "Terrorism is used by the weak against the strong. They cannot defeat us on their own. They improve their chances by recruiting the strongest possible ally – ourselves.

    Terrorism works when it distorts our judgment with fear and anger, and we misjudge our responses. Terrorism turns our strength against us. It can only work if we let it."


    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/comment/pa...n-response-20151115-gkzjfp.html#ixzz3rbbLTaKB
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    The French Defense Ministry just announce a large scale bombing of Raqqa, a major Islamic State organization stronghold.

    Ten fighter jets hit a a recruitment and training camp, a depot and a control command center.

    http://www.france24.com/en/ live stream




    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d126...test-france-holds-special-mass-attack-victims AP live updates

    Four French officials have told The Associated Press that police questioned and released the fugitive suspect hours after the Paris attacks.

    The questioning came when police pulled over a car near the Belgian border, hours after authorities had already identified Saleh Abdeslam as the renter of a Volkswagen Polo that was abandoned at the scene of the attack.

    Abdeslam is now the focus of an international manhunt. One of his brothers detonated a suicide vest in central Paris and another was ultimately detained in Belgium.

    He was one of three people in a car stopped by police Saturday morning, hours after the attacks that left at least 129 dead, the officials said.

    Three French police officials and a top French security official confirmed all that officers stopped Abdeslam and checked his ID and then let him go.

    The officials spoke only on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly disclose details of the investigation.

     
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    Bataclan theater terrorized for years

    Paris's Bataclan, which until recently was under Jewish ownership, was target for threats by Islamic extremists for years before becoming a main target in coordinated terror attacks by ISIL.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4725983,00.html
     
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    France's Intelligence Failure
    (Ouch..)

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    After January, the French took a number of minor steps, but avoided a comprehensive reform. The French should have trained additional, massive manpower to deal with situations of terror; to train legal personnel to file charges against terror elements and perform constitutional changes; to purchase a lot of equipment, mainly intelligence machines, which would allow an advanced infiltration of social media, and to get assistance from other countries that have dealt with such situations in the past.

    That didn't happen as well. The American source says his country offered to help the French train manpower and sell them intelligence machines of the Palantir company, which specializes in the area of OSINT (Open Source Intelligence), but was turned down. Israel offered different types of aid too, and received a polite refusal.

    A key failure is the hesitation to join international systems coordinating the war on terror. The French were very hesitant about exchanging information. Cooperation could have generated, for example, a list of suspects who would be banned entry by all countries, including France.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4726007,00.html
     
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