France - Explosions and shooting in Paris, 13 November 2015 #2

Discussion in 'Rampage Killings and Terrorist Attacks' started by Momoffourboys, Nov 15, 2015.

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  1. cottonweaver

    cottonweaver Well-Known Member

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    Official confirmation of the early morning raids


    http://www.theguardian.com/world/li...rmany-on-alert-after-hanover-bomb-threat-live
     


  2. cottonweaver

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    earlier this morning - eye witness account - 4.30am

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...m-Molenbeek-suspects-Syria-Raqqa-bombing.html
     
  3. DanceCard

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    Awaking to this news.
    Thanks to Websleuthers for overnight updates.
    Await confirmation of names of those arrested/killed.

    Lots to catch up on the thread!
     
  4. cottonweaver

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    wow - the hide out appears to be above a primary school - obviously no children at school in this area , but dread to think why they chose that location!!!

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/li...rmany-on-alert-after-hanover-bomb-threat-live
     
  6. cottonweaver

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    Bystander point of view, watching the dawn assaults, a local speaks, this area seems to be partly Muslim neighbourhood

    and belgian TV reports:
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/li...rmany-on-alert-after-hanover-bomb-threat-live

    describing the assault on the apartment:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...m-Molenbeek-suspects-Syria-Raqqa-bombing.html
     
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    breaking now

    media in St Denis say more gunshots followed by deathly silence

    no confirmation on what this means
     
  8. cottonweaver

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    BBC correspondent tweets

    Gavin Lee @GavinLeeBBC
    French authorities confirm a police dog was killed in raid in St Denis this morning. 4 police officers injured. Ongoing operation #Paris
    8:58 AM - 18 Nov 2015
     
  9. DexterMorgan

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    Assad planned this in advance to get france and Russia and other countries to help him get his country back. Jmo.

    And it worked. Now France isn't messing around. And Putin used the plane crash in Egypt to solidify to the United States on why we should join him and Assad on fighting isis in Syria. Jmo
     
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    Armen [spelling unknown]

    Best Francphone in Syria

    Stephen Carroll:

    [Sources very careful with not yet confirming this information as certainly known], so far.
    Only one source, not at all confirmed, close to the investigation, there may have been planning an attack on the ??La Defense (a neighborhood, a central business area)??

    to add to previous info


    5 injured police officers injured condition unknown

    man and woman arrested nearby

    7:30 last explosion was heard

    Aurore Cloe Depuis:

    Elite police deployed. Security still very heavy.

    Nobody has seen this individual on the run, so may have been a false alarm.

    According to an official in Town Hall: there may be one or two still holed up.

    Operation ongoing.



    http://www.france24.com/en/section/france-24/ [adding info not previously]

    Via SC, above

    Exclusive: Paris attacker may have had accomplice on journey through Balkans
    BELGRADE/ATHENS | BY ALEKSANDAR VASOVIC AND LEFTERIS KARAGIANNOPOULOS, REUTERS


    posing as a Syrian refugee, counter-intelligence and police sources say.

    The assailant may also have reached Paris faster and more easily than expected because asylum seekers were rushed across some national borders at the height of the migration crisis in Europe this year to avoid bottlenecks after Hungary closed its borders, ironically to keep out suspected militants.
    ...

    The assailant may also have reached Paris faster and more easily than expected because asylum seekers were rushed across some national borders at the height of the migration crisis in Europe this year to avoid bottlenecks after Hungary closed its borders, ironically to keep out suspected militants.
    ....

    The source, who declined to be named, indicated to Reuters that Macedonia was coordinating its action with Greece, and that a companion was with Mohammad by the time they bought ferry tickets taking them to Piraeus on the Greek mainland.
    ...

    A Leros travel agent said that on Oct. 4 he issued two tickets costing 51.50 euros ($54.90) each to the men for a ferry departing the following night from the nearby island of Kalymnos, which is reached from Leros by a local service. The 23:10 sailing reached Piraeus on the morning of Oct. 6.
    ...

    he owner of the Kastis travel agency in Leros, 42-year-old Dimitris Kastis, remembers selling tickets to Mohammad and a man who was with him. "He didn't do or say anything that caught my attention," Kastis said, adding that both men had paid in cash. He said the man travelling with him had a similar surname.
    ...

    Greek media have published a photograph of the second man's ticket which gives his family name as al-Mahmod, and the initial of his given name as M.

    he recognised this as the name the second man provided when purchasing the ticket.

    The counter-intelligence source in Macedonia said Mohammad was still travelling with a companion two days after reaching Piraeus. They registered together at a refugee camp in the backyard of an old tobacco plant in the Serbian town of Presevo, though Serbian officials have not mentioned an accomplice.

    Mohammad then went on to Croatia, either by train or bus, and was registered on Oct. 8 at the Opatovac refugee camp.

    Reuters has been unable to determine what route Mohammad took after this, or whether he was accompanied by anyone.

    he almost certainly left for Hungary within 24 hours, though Budapest has no record of him entering from Croatia, which at the time was offloading thousands of migrants every day across its northern border with Hungary.
    ...

    Mohammad's most likely destination from Hungary would have been Austria.
    ...

    But Vienna has confirmed that another of the attackers, Belgian-born Frenchman Salah Abdeslam, entered Austria from Germany on Sept. 9.

    [but, not in the right order of text,]
    ...

    Grundboeck said it was "conjecture and speculation" that a man going by the name of al-Mohammad had passed through
    ...


    bbm




    hmm doth protest too much. I bet this could be where they had logistics too since a number seem to have crossed through there and gone back and forth, possibly. All sorts of folks funnel illicit funds through there rather unseen, according to MSM on the subject. IIRC, it's a human trafficking hub of women and girls too, not sure, among other contraband. Who among the operators would need the cover of Austria, as they were Belgian and French? It seems like it could be some cross over point for their operations?
     
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    A lot of police dogs used in France are the breed Belgian (irony) Malinois. Also known as Belgian Shepherd Malinois. It's a short haired breed, there is also a longer haired Belgian Shepherd. They are extremely intelligent and brave, very protective.
    Let us hope that the police officers' injuries are not serious.
     
  12. cottonweaver

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    I love those Mallinois DanceCard -beautiful breed with great reputation - prefer them to the GSDog


    Anyway 5 officers apparently lightly injured.

    Breaking on the man who rented the siege apartment to these fugitives:
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/li...rmany-on-alert-after-hanover-bomb-threat-live
     
  13. cottonweaver

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    Appears to be a lull in activity but nevertheless you can imagine there are a lot of StDenis occupants holed up in their apartments now

    And French govt meeting just convened:

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/li...rmany-on-alert-after-hanover-bomb-threat-live

    The discarded mobile, from upthread, led police to the apartment-hotel where the syringes/pizza boxes were found ( not the St Denis siege flat)

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...m-Molenbeek-suspects-Syria-Raqqa-bombing.html

    lots of siege photos/police ops, on one page here, but the article itself is out of date:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ks-Paris-suburb-anti-terrorist-operation.html
     
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    9.35 GMT release

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...m-Molenbeek-suspects-Syria-Raqqa-bombing.html

    IT GOES BACK to what Sarkozy suggested, these people need to be tagged and/or under HOUSE ARREST and all comms data from that location monitored, WhatsApp or no WhatsApp! FGS:facepalm:

    15 people were evacuated from the StDenis apartment block, counselling already set up for them
    Caroline Piquet @CaroPiquet
    Une cellule psychologique a été mise en place. Une quinzaine de personnes étaient ds l'immeuble, parmi lesquels des femmes et des enfants
     
  16. cottonweaver

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    IDK EllieBee, that was my first thought, sounded very suspicious - but there is a vid of him on that DailyMail link in post above yours.
    I haven't watched it.

    I do think they will, as a matter of course, be arresting everyone and there will be quite a lot of releases without charge.
     
  17. cottonweaver

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    bizarre - dummy bomb?!

    Disruption and media attention - is that the goal?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...m-Molenbeek-suspects-Syria-Raqqa-bombing.html
     
  18. cottonweaver

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    speculation in DMail , that the woman who blew herself up is the "mastermind's" wife

    same article as previously linked to for quality photos, but tbh, this is speculation as the French authorities have not released any names at all just yet


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...b-anti-terrorist-operation.html#ixzz3rps61rzn
     
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    It's semantics whether Anons took down Daesh-related twitter accounts, or twitter did as the result of mass reporting by Anons.

    At least they are doing all they can legally online to disrupt communications and the spread of propaganda.

    Also, I think you misunderstand why they are called Anonymous.

    Blogs are opinions; informed or not.
     
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