France - Explosions and shooting in Paris, 13 November 2015 #3

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Crazy times.
Doubtful their parents are that familiar with Egyptian mythology! (What did the WS poster quote recently - something along lines of the stupid don't have any self-awareness of their own stupidity)

"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." Einstein

Although I must admit I prefer one of his others: “The measure of intelligence is the ability to change.” much more optimistic.
Very true. The story of her name is so beautiful and it's heartbreaking that it has been tarnished. Her birth father died in a car accident just a couple weeks after her birth mother found out she was pregnant. Both birth parents were Egyptian immigrants. The mother was diagnosed with a very invasive brain cancer at 30 weeks. She asked her very good friends (my best friend's brother and sil) who were unable to have children of their own to adopt her daughter.

She died the same day her daughter was born, so they decided to name her Isis, after the goddess of magic and life, motherhood and rebirth.
 

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Bombers in high heels: Female jihadis scramble to join Islamic State (ISIS) suicide squad


Just ten days before the Paris attacks which left 129 people dead, Elzbieta Karska, a special advisor to the United Nations (UN) warned how an increasing number of women from Belgium were flocking to the Middle East to join terrorist networks such as ISIS.

Ms Karska told the UN General Assembly: “There are around 500 foreign fighters from Belgium and an increasing number are women.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...raffic.outbrain&utm_campaign=traffic.outbrain
 

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Agence France-Presse ‏@AFP 29 sec.

BREAKING: Paris attacks death toll rises to 130: French PM


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ISIS Paris Attacks Suspect Left Colombia In July After Visiting Ecuador, EFE Reports


A Syrian man believed to be directly involved in the ISIS terrorist attacks in Paris on Nov. 13th traveled in Latin America before reaching France, according to an anonymous Colombian immigration official quoted by EFE. According to official, a man known as Al Sakhadi Seham entered Bogota, Colombia from Ecuador in July of 2015 and bribed officials working for immigration and customs agency ( DIAN ) to let him leave the country. Latin America is often overlooked in the global fight against terrorism, despite serving as a haven for extremist groups fro decades.

Did an ISIS terrorist use Colombia’s corrupt networks to reach France? If true, the reports could confirm fears long held by security expert hat terrorists based in the Middle East might take advantage of Latin America’s corrupt institutions.

Latin America has long been a haven for victims and perpetrators of conflict in the Middle East. Chile and Argentina were stomping grounds of Nazis and fleeing European Jews. Palestinian refugees fled Israel and scattered from Brazil to Mexico, often supporting the Palestinian Liberation Organization via a tax on diaspora communities.

http://www.latintimes.com/isis-pari...uly-after-visiting-ecuador-efe-reports-354532
 

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Can anyone explain what happened with the police dog, Diesel? I originally thought the dog was killed when the woman blew herself up.

Now reports say the police were exchanging fire with the suspects for several minutes and then they sent the dog into the building at which point the dog was immediately shot to death in a hail of bullets.

WTH? I haven't followed this story as closely as some others but did the police really send the poor dog into a building full of active shooters? Did the officers stay safely outside while the dog was being gunned down??

IDK if that was true. I recall seeing the same dog from the photo that was presented as Diesel in another war article with a different name. Maybe someone can link us both to that post with the links to both photos of the same dog, with different names on different continents in different years.

And while I'm posting, let me add this:

Thank you all for posting in the correct attack thread and staying on topic as much as can be. Certainly there are connections between Bamako and Paris, but the lives lost will be different. Let's remember to honor those innocent victims that have lost their lives in these perpetual wars and occupations around the globe.

Bamako thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...adisson-Blu-Hotel-attacked-Bamako-20-Nov-2015
 

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IDK if that was true. I recall seeing the same dog from the photo that was presented as Diesel in another war article with a different name. Maybe someone can link us both to that post with the links to both photos of the same dog, with different names on different continents in different years.

And while I'm posting, let me add this:

Thank you all for posting in the correct attack thread and staying on topic as much as can be. Certainly there are connections between Bamako and Paris, but the lives lost will be different. Let's remember to honor those innocent victims that have lost their lives in these perpetual wars and occupations around the globe.

Bamako thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...adisson-Blu-Hotel-attacked-Bamako-20-Nov-2015

Not sure if this is accurate. But it's from today's article.

"However, as Diesel the police dog was sent in ahead of officers due to her abilities to sniff out explosives and booby traps, Aitboulahcen pulled the trigger on her suicide vest killing herself and the beloved police dog instantly."

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...raffic.outbrain&utm_campaign=traffic.outbrain
 

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My best friend's 12 year old niece is named Isis. The cruelty she is receiving is horrifying, they had to pull her from school and are going to homeschool the rest of the year while they decide what to do.


Trickle down insanity directed at a child for her name. Is this just "collateral damage" too?
 

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Trickle down insanity directed at a child for her name. Is this just "collateral damage" too?

Hope4More,
It's a tragic history - thank you for posting it though.

I sincerely hope she grows up to be a strong young woman, with a fantastic future and do something important out of this awful experience.
But this current idiotic bullying is very tough on a girl of that age.
 

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Interesting that the Mali attacks has again revealed the location of special ops "boots on the ground' across a range of Continents.

Saw the ex CIA Director ( apols can't remember his name) on Newsnight last night saying that a huge increase in their numbers was needed.

Boots on the ground is naturally, very controversial. IDK what to think when I see a couple of days of remote air strikes have killed 400+ civililians, almost 100 of them being children.
Is a "remote" war ( air strikes, drones) that is so "inaccurate" a moral question?
And is it effective when ISIS are hiding amongst civilians they are using as shields? ( Lot of the military top brass expert opinion says air strikes simply will NOT work on their own.) And I say this knowing young guys who fought in our Middle Eastern wars lately, thankfully returned.
I don't have answers but I'm trying to find the right questions.

I note that applications to join the French Army have sky rocketed since the Paris attacks, to unprecedented levels, apparently.

My government is debating intensifying air strikes, our PM has long advocated this ,but with a major enquiry into our previous PM's involvement in the Iraqi war based on no-weapons-of mass-destruction with Mr Bush et al, it is clear why there is strong opposition.....
 

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At one point a long burst of gunfire was followed by a loud explosion. “That’s when we saw a human body, a woman’s head, fly through the window and land on the pavement, on the other side of the street,” he said. “A suicide bomber had just blown themselves up, with such force that a supporting wall moved.” The suicide bomber was Abaaoud’s cousin, Hasna Aitboulahcen, and according to reports part of her spine landed on a police car.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...orist-force-says-he-saw-bombers-a6740861.html

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MOVEMENTS OF ISIS EXTREMIST PRIOR TO PARIS ATTACK RAISE EU SECURITY QUESTIONS

The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-to-paris-attack-raises-eu-security-questions


Confirmation that a top terrorist suspect had travelled into and through the EU from Syria on at least two occasions in the past 12 months, passing checks in countries including Belgium and Germany without alarms being triggered, has put European leaders under intense pressure to get a grip on Europe’s external and internal borders.

The French interior minister, Bernard Cazeneuve, said Abaaoud had played a “decisive role” in the Paris attacks and was suspected of involvement in four of the six terror plots that French intelligence services had foiled this year.

But, Cazeneuve pointed out, he was the subject of both a European and an international arrest warrant – and no EU intelligence service had alerted France that he was on European soil.

The interior minister said information – from a non-European agency – that the jihadi may recently have been in Greece only reached France on 16 November, three days after the attacks



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EU failing to protect its citizens BIG, yet insisting until recently that 'Schengen' is non-negotiable.

EU has a border agency called Frontex. They collaborate openly with human traffickers, let in everybody who comes by boat and return the boat to the smugglers.
Iit beggars belief, but this is what we pay taxes for.
 

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ISIS's recent killing (just after theParis attacks) of the long held Chinese hostage, Fan Jinghui.

An article on Chinese reponse incl. this extract

When news that Isis hostage Fan Jinghui, a middle aged former teacher from Beijing, had been executed, many online were quick to question why no rescue had been attempted or call for a show of strength in response.

“This time, if [the government] still doesn’t deploy soldiers,” wrote one person quoted in Foreign Policy, “it won’t be able to explain itself to its people.”Government censors responded fast to the surge of interest delete all but the most bland official versions of that news from the heavily-controlled domestic internet.
Searches for Fan Jinghui, the name of the 50 year-old former teacher killed in Syria, were blocked on sites including twitter-like Weibo. But a monitoring tool at the University of Hong Kong found that before censorship, top searches included hostage, IS, killed were among the most popular Just a couple of days after Fan’s execution

http://www.theguardian.com/world/li...k-gunmen-take-hostages-in-bamako-live-updates
 

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Al-Qaida linked group claims responsibility

An African Jihadist group affiliated with al Qaida has claimed responsibility for the ongoing attack, according to Reuters.

Al-Mourabitoun, a group based in northern Mali and made up mostly of Tuaregs and Arabs, posted a message on Twitter saying it was behind the attack on the Radisson Blu hotel.

The claim could not immediately be verified

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/li...k-gunmen-take-hostages-in-bamako-live-updates
 

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Pontiac City Council to stop plan to house Syrian refugees

Author: Local 4 - ClickOnDetroit news staff, [email protected]

Published On: Nov 19 2015 05:51:22 PM EST Updated On: Nov 20 2015 12:21:49 AM EST

PONTIAC, Mich. -
The city of Pontiac is saying "no" to Syrian refugees.

This decision comes a day after Oakland County Executive L. Brooks Patterson asked the mayor and City Council to stop the support of housing Syrian refugees in buildings owned by Live In Pontiac LLC and Pontiac Community Investment LLC.

Patterson refers to the development as a Syrian refugee village...

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/...lan-to-support-house-syrian-refugees/36552954

Another article about the Syrian village in Pontiac, MI: http://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...s-patterson-pontiac-syrian-refugees/76017962/

More: http://www.theoaklandpress.com/general-news/20151119/syrian-housing-project-riles-pontiac-residents
 

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http://news.yahoo.com/isis-24-hour-...0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--

ISIS has 24-hour help desk for terrorists
"New reports detailing the activities of ISIS, which is responsible for the recent attacks on Paris, Beirut and for taking down a Russian passenger jet, reveal that the organization employs a 24-hour customer support service that can help out with various digital problems its members may have. The same tech-savvy group manning the round-the-clock service from locations around the world also created a manual the describes best-practices ISIS members should follow to thwart surveillance and hide their tracks online."
 

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You write beautifuly ! IMO Whoever is in the oval office is like a figure head -- the mess we are in , in all domains , is our Congress

The 113th Congress remains on track to be arguably the least productive Congress in modern history,
just 142 public bills have become law in this current Congress (2013-2014) – down from the 906 the 80th “Do-Nothing” Congress passed in 1947-48, and the 333 that were enacted during the Newt Gingrich-led 104th Congress of 1995-96.just 142 public bills have become law in this current Congress (2013-2014) – down from the 906 the 80th “Do-Nothing” Congress passed in 1947-48, and the 333 that were enacted during the Newt Gingrich-led 104th Congress of 1995-96 per NBC!

They vacation, then vacation, then aargue, then vacation, then vacaation. IMO, should be term limits what a difference we would see

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/congress-track-be-least-productive-modern-history-n169546

And in between the arguing and vacationing they grandstand.
 
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