GUILTY GA - Diane McIver, 63, Fatally Shot, Atlanta, 25 Sept 2016 #2

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  1. YESorNO

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    Mike Petchenik@MPetchenikWSB
    57s58 seconds ago
    Judge says he'll tell jurors if #TexMcIver "engaged in misleading conduct" towards Dani Jo Carter with the "goal of convincing her to withhold information from the police," then they can convict on ct. 5.
     


  2. BUF

    BUF Well-Known Member

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    I think Tex is 'finally' following his attorneys instructions

    Why is that crime scene tape guy still in the courtroom??
     
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    Mike Petchenik@MPetchenikWSB
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    Judge says he'll tell jurors if #TexMcIver "engaged in misleading conduct" towards Dani Jo Carter with the "goal of convincing her to withhold information from the police," then they can convict on ct. 5.


    11Alive News@11AliveNews
    4m4 minutes ago
    Per @kaitlynross1 | Judge on what he'll tell the jury for the last question: The state must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Tex McIver acted with the intent to withhold information from the police. http://on.11alive.com/2HnoYUC #texmciver


    Veronica Waters@MissVWaters
    3m3 minutes ago
    Judge McBurney proposes telling jurors: There must be an intent to commit a violent injury to another. For Count 5 (influencing witness), they're now haggling over whether to phrase answer to include language about whether #TexMcIver "tricked" witness @wsbradio


    Latonia P Hines@LatoniaPHines
    3m3 minutes ago
    Samuels is doing what he does best arguing the nuances of Criminal Law. He is known for writing a Criminal Law resource book which is used all around the country. #texmciver


    Mike Petchenik@MPetchenikWSB
    3m3 minutes ago
    Woman in the front row for the #TexMcIver trial.

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    11Alive News@11AliveNews
    3m3 minutes ago
    On 'misleading' charge question judge agrees to add sentence: The speaker must intend to mislead. The hearer need not actually be misled. http://on.11alive.com/2HnoYUC #texmciver
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    Veronica Waters@MissVWaters
    2m2 minutes ago
    #TexMcIver judge and lawyers've agreed on reply to Qs 6 & 7: "For an assault to occur, there must be an intent to commit a violent injury to another. It may assist you to review the charges for definition of a crime, intent aggravated assault..." & reference page nos. @wsbradio
     
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    turaj Well-Known Member

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    I think those questions and the answers are going to expedite this....clearly they have intent off the table....now anything that requires intent...so they are narrowing it down. On count 5 I believe the answer given will yield a guilty vote although I am surprised they are still asking about that count. Maybe verdict later today?
     
  7. YESorNO

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    Veronica is always late with her tweets...:sheesh:


    Veronica Waters@MissVWaters
    5m5 minutes ago
    Judge & lawyers agree to answer Q8: "The State must prove...#TexMcIver engaged in misleading conduct toward Ms. Carter [SUV driver] w/the intent or goal to convince her to withhold info from police. Speaker must intend to mislead; the hearer need not actually be misled" @wsbradio

    Veronica Waters@MissVWaters
    2m2 minutes ago
    #TexMcIver's friends, Lori & Annie, and sister Dixie, await word from the jury. @wsbradio

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    Now I'm going.... see y'all later...
     
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    turaj, sorry but I am confused what the final answer was!
     
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    BUF Well-Known Member

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    Thank you!
     
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    turaj Well-Known Member

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    a very non legal answer is what I heard is that for the first two on intent required for those offenses the answer is YES...they must have had some they did not get that ....this tells me no one thinks he intended to do anything... on the last one about count 5...basically Tex can intend to mislead or ask Dani to say other than the truth (lie) and he can still be guilty even if she chose not to follow his advice.
     
  11. Hopeful One

    Hopeful One Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who

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    We've got movement in the courtroom again.
     
  12. Hopeful One

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    Oh no! Are they at an impasse?? The jury can't see a path to overcome their differences on defendant's intent on 1, 2, 3 and 5.
     
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    Jurors apparently ready to punt. State wants to block that.
     
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    Latonia P Hines@LatoniaPHines
    2m2 minutes ago
    Attys returning back to courtroom. Another questions from jury. #texmciver


    Bill Rankin@ajccourts
    2m2 minutes ago
    Jury says it doesn't see path to resolve its differences in first five counts. #TexMcIver


    Law & Crime Network@LawCrimeNetwork
    46s46 seconds ago
    #TexMcIver - McIver is back in the courtroom. Jury: "We don't see a path to overcome our differences on teh defendant's intent on counts 1,2,3,4 &5."

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    Wild About Trial@WildAboutTrial
    40s40 seconds ago
    Jury is having trouble coming to an agreement on many of the charges. Looks like we might have an allen charge coming up. #TexMcIver


    Latonia P Hines@LatoniaPHines
    1m1 minute ago
    Prosecution is asking for continued deliberation direction from Judge before giving an Allen charge. #TexMciver


    11Alive News@11AliveNews
    1m1 minute ago
    State insisting that they continue deliberations and adding that they have not spent an unreasonable amount of time in deliberations. http://on.11alive.com/2HnoYUC #TexMcIver


    Mike Petchenik@MPetchenikWSB
    41s42 seconds ago
    The #TexMcIver jury is deadlocked on charges 1, 2, 3 and 5, the judge just announced.


    Latonia P Hines@LatoniaPHines
    5m5 minutes ago
    Correction-Jury does not think they can over come difference as to McIver intent for purposes of charges 1,2,3, and 5, not 4! #texmciver


    Law & Crime Network@LawCrimeNetwork
    3m3 minutes ago
    #TexMcIver - Count 4 : Possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony.
    The jury does not mention this count in their 'deadlocked' note.
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    Veronica Waters@MissVWaters
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    "We don't see a path to overcome our differences on Counts 1, 2, 3, & 5," 'writes the #TexMcIver jury. Judge is considering whether to give the jurors an Allen charge. @wsbradio
     
  16. Hopeful One

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    I have a question. What is the difference between telling the jurors they need to continue to deliberate and an Allen charge? Aren't they one and the same?
     
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    11Alive News@11AliveNews
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    Judge is insisting they continue on. Preparing an "Allen Charge" which insists they try to reach a verdict due to money, time and efforts involved. http://on.11alive.com/2HnoYUC #texmciver


    Christian Boone@ReporterJCB
    56s57 seconds ago
    #TexMcIver judge to give Allen charge, which encourages a deadlocked jury to reach a verdict
     
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    Latonia P Hines@LatoniaPHines
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    It looks like Judge McBurney will be giving the jurors what basically equates to an Allen charge in a few minutes. All lawyers know Allen charge is a last resort direction from the judge. #texmciver
     
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    Latonia P Hines@LatoniaPHines
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    A hung jury on the main counts would be best for the Prosecution to allow for retrial. Not guilty on the main charges woud be the best for the Defense no retrial. #TexMcIver
     

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