GA - Katherine Janness, 40, fatally stabbed and dog killed, Piedmont Park, Atlanta, 28 July 2021 #2

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  1. Counttrarian

    Counttrarian Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully DNA results/profile will be in within the next couple of weeks, otherwise without a lucky break the odds of finding the perp are diminishing.
     
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  2. Lewiston

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    It’s not outside the realm of possibility. When I saw the image of the witness with the cane, Ted Bundy wearing a fake arm cast to lure victims came to mind. The witness was probably just walking outside with the help of a cane but the mind tries to make sense of the insensible.

    The APD asked the FBI to assist with the Piedmont Park case within 24 hours. The FBI promptly confirmed this. (This is yet another reason this case differs from most.) The van case was more recent and different, though no less tragic. A citizen witnessed a young Midtown bartender’s abduction as she was approaching her home (miles away from Midtown) and immediately called the police. An hour later, another citizen from a nearby area reported hearing gunfire. Police investigated and found her body. A suspect was quickly apprehended after a high-speed chase, but police do not believe there is any connection between the two murders.
     
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  3. Counttrarian

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    You may be correct but a couple of points...
    Given what we've heard concerning the state of cameras in the park I'd wager a majority of the park didn't have camera coverage.
    Many of the areas near walking paths have trees somewhat nearby.
    (Also logically if you are doing something illicit and were stumbled upon the odds are you were not out in the open)
     
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    Do men meet other men at the bathrooms in this area of the park? Just wondering if this was about her being a woman…especially the stab wounds to the face.
     
  5. FonescaFan

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    Does anyone know how accurate distance-wise the “find my phone” apps are? Feet, yards, or miles?
     
  6. PrairieWind

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    I don't think they are walking in the direction of Henry's. As she crosses 10th she seems to be angling to the east as if to also cross Piedmont when she gets acrross 10th. That would be toward the part, but away from Henry's which would be to the west. I do agree that it seems they had already been out on a good walk and Emma was going to be off work soon. So it seems odd she would then head to the park instead of home. But maybe Bowie was still restless and need more exercise.
     
  7. Lewiston

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    Yes, from what I’ve heard over the years.
     
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    My theory is that she did not go the opposite direction into the park. I am wondering if she could have been abducted shortly after crossing the crosswalk.
     
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    I have seen other posters say it looks like she was angling in the crosswalk. It is a still shot. I even read one poster said it looks like she was weaving in the crosswalk several days ago. I can’t tell one way or the other from a still shot.
     
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    I have always thought that to activate Find My IPhone you need to have the phone in your possession. Which I wonder if she misspoke and saw her location? I also thought that you would need to be signed in onto an iCloud account to turn it on or off. I mean if someone wanted to share their location that’s easily done, but find my iPhone’s intent is to prevent theft not for tracking.
     
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    There's a way you can enable permissions so that you can be located by those you give permission to. Ive family that do it. It's kinda like find my phone but different. So that realtime, they would be able to see wherever the phone/person is.
     
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    They are pretty accurate. And can pinpoint to pretty much an exact address at a point in time. I think that an area in a park would be more difficult, because there isn't an exact address within the park area.
     
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    One possible explanation for why it may have appeared that Katie and Bowie were “angling” in the northbound crosswalk:

    Although we don’t know which direction Katie and Bowie were coming from as she approached the rainbow crossing intersection, if (if) she had been heading east on the south (Zocalo) side of 10th Street, and if (if) the northbound pedestrian crosswalk blinker was counting down (indicating that the light was about to change), Katie and Bowie might have “cut the corner” to quickly enter the crosswalk to try to beat the light. Jmo
     
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    I used Bowie’s line of sight as a reference. He seems to be looking straight dead center of the crosswalk. From that point of view, it seems Katie is angled at the opposite side of Carribou. But, as you said, it’s a still shot…. Who knows.
     
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    Moo....I worked waitress at bars..she was.bartender for years,? As a nite worker..I often wandered for hours. Chill time with dogs. And you get to also know the dealers and sex workers..or pick your pocket folk. Or this is not wife
     
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    I read earlier that maybe a decoy was used, either a female was present, another dog. If we take that hypothesis, which is a good one, how about if the sound of a cat meowing drew Katie to the side of the park she normally wouldn't go to? I too think it very odd that she may have entered the park at or near the restroom and shortly thereafter was murdered.
     
  17. Counttrarian

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    FWIW
    Currently there is no reason to believe she entered at or near the restroom. Unless there are photos we haven't seen the more likely scenario a few of us posted is that she went in on the smaller entrances on 10th St, or one of the ones by the condos on Piedmont and 11th or 'little 12th'.
    There are elaborate scenarios being posited whereas homicides, unless murder for hire/money, are rarely very elaborate. (I could of course be very wrong on this one)
     

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    There is a hotel across the street from Henry's, the Lowes faces 11th and to the rear parking lot behind Henry's. I would assume there is evidence out there of more images than the police are sharing. Also - why hasn't the family of the victim done an interview? There are some gaps in stories and I have a hard time assuming its a random act of violence. Assuming FBI keeps digging they'll find more - I bet the evidence file is very very large ATM.
     
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    Yep. Not to mention the Federal Reserve is about a block from Henry's. That area is maximally surveilled--maybe not by the City of ATL but still.
     
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    I think it is okay for me to post this.. It's a recording of Emma's dad speaking for 8 minutes at a small gathering (not from this weekend, thank you quell). Maybe you all have seen it, I don't remember it.

    . I am so glad Emma (and Katie) has/have him to advocate on her behalf.
    This killer can't be caught soon enough.

    Of note --
    He tells how on the night this happened , Emma was held in the back of a police car for three and a half hours at the scene. This was in addition to the six hours she was at the police station.
    "The FBI is involved. They have brought in agents, the entire Atlanta FBI is involved" (I doubt this is literal or that every single agent is on this case but maybe I'm wrong.. Or maybe just that each department within the ATL FBI has a representative on it)
    They have not heard from the Mayor or anyone from the city.
    He is strongly encouraging people NOT to go to the park at night at all. Realizes this is harsh but says that until the city can make it safe for everyone, don't go.
    Talks about how it is a public place ,that tax dollars go to the park and they don't have working cameras and can't ensure it is safe. Points out that there are cameras everywhere .. Everywhere they can make money.
    In telling people not to go to the park, he reiterates that it is not safe and that when we find out what they did to Katie, "what they did to her is ridiculous"

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