GA GA - Kyle Clinkscales, 23, LaGrange, 27 Jan 1976

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  1. mysteriew

    mysteriew A diamond in process

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    Nearly 30 years ago, Kyle Clinkscales, a 22-year-old Auburn University business major from LaGrange, left his part-time bartending job at the LaGrange Moose Club to return to his campus apartment 42 miles away in Alabama.

    He never made it.

    The young man vanished on Jan. 27, 1976, seemingly into thin air. His white '74 Ford Pinto was never found. Neither was Clinkscales' body.

    But a fresh tip from a man who was a child at the time of Clinkscales' disappearance led to an arrest Wednesday.

    Last month, Kyle Clinkscales' parents, John and Louise Clinkscales, received a telephone call from a man who said that as a 7-year-old he witnessed the disposal of their son's body. The caller said he was with his grandfather when he saw the body, covered with concrete in a barrel, dumped into a pond.

    Although a search of the pond in recent weeks failed to turn up a body or barrel, authorities have arrested a man they say is connected to the long-ago disappearance

    Troup County Sheriff Donny Turner said deputies arrested Jimmy Earl Jones, 63, an employee with the Heard County road department, before dawn Wednesday at a convenience store where Jones stops every day.

    Jones, who is being held without bond in the Troup County Jail, is charged with concealing a death, hindering the apprehension of a criminal and two counts of making false statements. Jones was not charged with murder.

    "We're in the middle of getting some good statements. [Jones is] in the middle of cooperating. We've got a lot of stuff to sift through," Turner said.

    The sheriff said investigators believe Ray Hyde, who died in July 2001, "is the one that did the killing."

    The caller said he and his grandfather were threatened that "if they opened their mouths, they'd be murdered too, and [the caller] had to live with that for 29 years," she said

    Authorities drained the one-acre pond, about two miles from Hyde's property, "and there was a 3-foot dip. We dug there and couldn't find anything," the sheriff said.

    Based on other information, the sheriff said, authorities believe Hyde later moved the body from the lake and buried it elsewhere. "There's a good chance the hole we found in the lake is where [the body] was. Jimmy Jones may not know where it was moved, but we're not quitting yet," Turner said.

    http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/0405/14clinkscales.html
     
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  3. smile22

    smile22 Live Laugh Love

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    wow after all those years and someone comes up and speaks. i just wish others would do the same. for the many other missing children and adults that are still out in the unknown.
     
  4. mysteriew

    mysteriew A diamond in process

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    It just shows that you should never give up hope. Many a murder story has been told as a deathbed confession.
     
  5. Richard

    Richard Well-Known Member

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    Second Arrest in 30-year-old Case

    Provided By: The Associated Press
    Last Modified: 6/27/2005 10:24:57 PM

    LaGRANGE, Ga. (AP) -- A second arrest has been made in the disappearance almost 30 years ago of an Auburn University student who is believed to have been killed but whose body was never found.

    Jeanne Pawlak Johnson, 57, was charged with concealment of a death, giving false statements and obstruction in the case of Kyle Clinkscales of LaGrange, Troup County Sheriff Donny Turner said Monday.

    Jimmy Earl Jones, 61, was arrested in April and charged with helping to conceal a body after a local man claimed he saw Jones and another man dump the body in a pond. The other man died in 2001.

    Clinkscales, 22, disappeared on Jan. 27, 1976 after finishing his shift as a part-time bartender at the Moose Club in LaGrange. He was supposed make the 35-mile drive back to Auburn, but he and his car were never found.

    At the time of Jones’ arrest, the sheriff said he confessed to being at the home of auto salvage owner Ray Hyde the night the student disappeared but did not admit to killing Clinkscales.

    Turner said Monday that according to information his investigators had received, Johnson also was at Hyde’s that night. Johnson denied being at the home and any knowledge of the killing, the sheriff said....

    Links:
    http://wxia.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=65356

    http://www.ocm.auburn.edu/scripts/archives05/4-14.html

    http://www.ocm.auburn.edu/scripts/archives05/4-13.html

    http://www.theplainsman.com/

    http://www.theplainsman.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/07/07/42ccb329558a2
    http://www.eagle1023.com/news/

    http://www.cbs46.com/global/story.asp?s=3527787&ClientType=Printable

    http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/12000720.htm
     
  6. Richard

    Richard Well-Known Member

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    Kyle Wade Clinkscales Missing since January 27, 1976 from LaGrange, Troup County, Georgia.
    Classification: Endangered Missing


    Vital Statistics
    Date Of Birth: October 2, 1953
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 23 years old
    Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'11"; 155 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: White male. Hazel eyes; brown hair.
    Marks, Scars: Previous fracture to ring finger. He may have a mustache.
    Dentals: Available.
    Clothing: Denim jacket (possibly suede), multi-colored blue shirt white tie and denim pants.
    Vehicle: 2-door, white 1974 Pinto Runabout with GA Licence number CEF-717.

    Circumstances of Disappearance

    Clinkscales was last seen at the "Moose Club" in LaGrange, GA, where he worked as a bartender. He left the club to return to Auburn University but never arrived. His vehicle is also missing and is described as a 2-door, white 1974 Pinto Runabout with GA Licence number CEF-717.

    On April 13, 2005, a LaGrange, Georgia man was charged in connection with the disappearance of Kyle Clinkscales. A witness said that the suspect was at the property of an auto salvage owner who owned property nearby, and helped him move Clinkscales' body.

    The suspect confessed to helping move the body, but didn't confess to killing the Clinkscales. Investigators think the suspects might have buried a 55-gallon drum with Clinkscales inside. Investigators also dug on the suspect's property in 1996, but found nothing.

    Investigators If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:

    Troup County Sheriff's Office Missing Persons Unit 706-883-1616

    Agency Number: 76-0116772

    NCMEC #:NCMC665469

    NCIC Number:M-811794067

    Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

    Source Information:

    NCMA
    California Department of Justice
    Ledger-Enquirer 4/14/05
    National Center for Missing & Exploited Children
    The Doe Network: Case File 797DMGA

    LINK:

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/797dmga.html
     
  7. meggilyweggily

    meggilyweggily Member

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    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/clinkscales_kyle.html

    Kyle's father wrote a book about his disappearance called Kyle's Story: Friday Never Came. Copies are difficult to find, but I was able to get one. He said he thought Kyle had left of his own accord, but this was before all the stuff about the confession and stuff came out.
     
  8. Richard

    Richard Well-Known Member

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    bumping case up...
     
  9. believe09

    believe09 Active Member

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    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/clinkscales_kyle.html

    Missing: January 27, 1976 La Grange, GA
    Classification: Endangered Missing/Presumed Deceased Possible Homicide
    DOB: October 2, 1953
    Height/Weight: 5'11" 156LBS
    Distinguishing Charecteristics: Caucasian Male, Brown hair, hazel eyes, may wear a moustache, previously fractured right ring finger.

    Circumstances: Kyle was a student at Auburn University. He was last seen leaving Moose Lodge, where he worked, to return to the University. He was due to meet a friend on the following Friday but never showed up. He was driving a white Pinto and was reported missing by his parents on February 3, 1976.

    Links to some of the media:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-22155.html
    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/220251/body_of_lagrange_georgia_resident_still.html
    http://findcarrie.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=missinga&action=display&num=1113431495
     
  10. believe09

    believe09 Active Member

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    A few tips on Kyle were called in to me as a result of the flyer that has been circulating the last week or so. I did some research, made some phone calls and talked to Sheriff Nixon of Troup County...he is responsible for the case.

    Kyle Clinkscales is presumed dead due to the recovered memory of someone who believes they saw him buried. Although the pond was drained where the tipster believes Kyle was dumped, all that was found was a depression.

    Where things get a little crazy:
    • A skiptrace of Kyle C's ssn shows it being used up until 2001, last in PA.
    • Kyle's SSN still shows as active although his parents told a source that they had declared him dead.
    • There was no physical evidence indicating he was deceased.
    Sheriff Nixon is open minded enough to request that Kyle C's MtDNA sample, currently being held at the GBI Crime Lab, be compared to Benjaman Kyle's MtDNA sample.

    I will keep you all in the loop as I am informed...

    :blowkiss:
     
  11. dreamweaver

    dreamweaver New Member

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    Well, glad you explained that. LOL. I was beginning to think you had just picked someone at random and decided, we'll just try and see if he's a match.

    Odd.Odd.
     
  12. dreamweaver

    dreamweaver New Member

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    believe09:
    I understand why you are submitting this person.
    But,
    He just does not look like Benjaman K to me.
     
  13. believe09

    believe09 Active Member

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    Me either, friend. I submitted it based on the LE request, so I wanted to loop all of you in. Kyle has come up a few times over the years, but with the conviction of the person who apparently confessed to disposing his body, I figured it was safely set aside. I admire that the Sheriff is willing to leave no stone unturned for the Clinkscales who are still alive....
     
  14. believe09

    believe09 Active Member

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    Man I am receiving a lot of feedback from folks regarding this possible match-there are many who like it a whole lot!!
     
  15. Cymro

    Cymro New Member

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    Okay folks, this is where it gets really weird:

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...AAIBAJ&pg=2969,213778&dq=walter-moore+amnesia

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?n...=qvsGAAAAIBAJ&sjid=4TQDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4263,79174

    Briefly, it appears that in 1981 a man named Danny Walter Moore telephoned Kyle Clinkscales' parents, using Kyle's name, and later wrote to them with similar handwriting. He claimed to have memories of having been in the Clinkscales' home and of being in Georgia, although he was living in Oregon. His parents ultimately appear to have decided that it was't him although dental records may have been compared as a rule out.

    Apparently he thought he looked like Clinkscales but DNA obviously wasn't available back then to give a definitive answer. There doesn't seem to have been any follow up on Moore who (oddly) claims to have assumed the identity of his boss's deceased son. I wonder if "Moore" could have been the person who used KWC's SSN until 2001 or could be Benjaman, having suffered a relapse in 2004. Heck, I guess both are possible but unlikely. It might also explain the interest of LE for Clinkscales' case in Benjaman if we have kind of been here before.

    Finally it appears that KWC's father died in 2007 but his mother appears still to be with us so we need to be quite careful with regard to this family's hopes.
     
  16. believe09

    believe09 Active Member

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    We are staying far from the family, Cymro because of the story you posted but thank you for reminding all of us sleuthers why we have to sleuth before we drag family into our "discoveries." I think that is a good point you raised-that Moore may have been using Kyle's ssn.

    What in incredible twist it would be if Moore and Bk were the same person...
     
  17. Julessleuther

    Julessleuther New Member

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    I did not see any photos of Danny Moore in the newspaper articles; did I miss something? Has anyone researched what happened to Danny Moore? Very odd indeed!

    Edit:

    I just googled Kyle Clinkscales name and there is one listed in Bend, Oregon, so it appears that this Danny person assumed Kyles name? It is an unusual name, and yet I have found several listings, including one that works at a Summit gym in Grapevine, Tx.
     
  18. believe09

    believe09 Active Member

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    The Kyle in Oregon has been completely vetted-he just happens to have the same name. O/T I used to go to the Summit Gym in Grapevine TX-what a small world!

    Does the age/dob etc seem close??
     
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    Two things that stood out for me when looking at the images of younger Clinkscales was the scar under the chin and the pronounced cheek when smiling - both seem evident in the photos of Benjaman Kyle. Together with both being from/in GA and having connection to College/University and work in food service - I'm thinking this is a match.
     

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  20. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    FWIW, I do not think Kyle Clinkscales resembles Mr. Kyle. I don't normally comment on possible matches, but after reading the circumstances behind his disappearance AND that his SS# was used so many years after his disappearance I'll add a comment. It appears that Kyle Clinkscales is a victim of identity theft.

    I had thought about that same possibility with Mr. Kyle this weekend. It occured to me, if he was reported missing and local LE FOUND activity on his SS, they would have notified the family he was willingly missing, no?

    Going to paste this in the general thread as well.

    OT- kind of, IMO, this Kyle Clinkscales reminds me a little bit of David Cassidy... but more so that 70's -80's actor. Can't think of his name, brown hair, but he always played the troubled teen. In one of them he had a drug problem. Can picture his face, but can not place the name for the life of me.

    Also, there is a thread for Kyle Clinkscales, in the cold case forum? A google shows it at WS, but I didn't go further......
     
  21. believe09

    believe09 Active Member

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    I have been told MtDNA is being processed. I believe it may have to be run sample to sample rather than via database. Could take 3 weeks.
     

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